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Why are Polish people so strange & unusual?


kaprys 3 | 2,245
6 Feb 2018 #31
They're there for work ... and money they get for the work they do. Probably just few enjoy what they do. If any. It's their right to be materialistic.

I guess we're talking about the staff, as I doubt there are too many female customers that are chatted up by male customers.
Dirk diggler 10 | 4,585
6 Feb 2018 #32
I'm not talking about the female staff in clubs, by that I meant night clubs, dyskoteki, etc... By that I meant that the women who tend to go to the dyskoteki in Poland or Ukraine tend to be a different type than those say in Germany, Czechy, UK, etc.

The girls that work in the strip clubs/gogo are usually there because it's easy money for them. still, at least outside of Poland/Ukraine/Russia most establishments do not flat out steal from patrons unable to speak the language. it's just bad business imo. there's not many jobs a young uneducated woman can take that will make her 80k+ a year for dancing a few hours a night
kaprys 3 | 2,245
6 Feb 2018 #33
Just don't hang out with people working in such places. And believe it or not, there are loads of beautiful educated women who'd rather make less money than work as an escort etc. You have to be an idiot to do it. Not a thing to put on your cv, no further career prospects not to mention some nasty men with sticky fingers. Plus the risk or getting raped or beaten up.

As for people who go to regular clubs, there are different sorts. Some are there for dancing, drinking and hanging out with friends. Others for free drinks and easy sex. It's the same all over the world. You choose who you hang out with. Don't expect to start a family with a binge drinking girl that you meet in a club. It's quite easy to see who's after good fun and who's desperate for easy sex or free drinks. The previous can easily sense the latter and mostly choose to avoid them.
Dirk diggler 10 | 4,585
6 Feb 2018 #34
most of the girls working in go go clubs or strip joints or whatever are often doing it to pay their way through school. hell id do the same damn thing if I was a woman.

It's quite easy to see who's after good fun and who's desperate for easy sex or free drinks.

that is true - you're right. im stating though based on my experiences in going to various clubs throughout Europe, there are far more girls in poland who are there to simply get free drinks and if they can meet a sucker that will dish out money for them that's an added plus, than simply to dance, have fun, get drunk, etc. I'd say it's about 50/50 in PL whereas in other places the percentage of girls who are there merely to meet some guy they can somehow screw over tends to be lower in places like Spain, Germany, Holland, etc. Perhaps its because Poland is poorer and it's more of a traditional society where women are expected to get married fairly young and have a successful husband who is the main bread winner. Idk, it's just an observation.
kaprys 3 | 2,245
6 Feb 2018 #35
I'm sorry, Dirk but I studied at university here and none of my friends did it. It's something I hear in American films only, not in real life. There are some looking for sponsors - and again I just heard about it, but the fact is that whoever does it, is screwed as far as their career is concerned. Imagine being a lawyer/doctor and coming across your ex customer/sponsor.

As for going to clubs, really I guess I go to different places than you do. Or just with different sort of people. If there's a guy who's too 'friendly', you just go back to your group. As for free drinks, I'd rather pay for mine and keep an eye on it.

Anyway, somebody who's after free drinks and easy sex isn't after starting a family. And some people just go there to relax.
Dirk diggler 10 | 4,585
6 Feb 2018 #36
I'm sorry, Dirk but I studied at university here and none of my friends did it

In US it's fairly common for young women to work in such jobs especially if they're unable to find something better. Maybe not as a strip club dancer but many go into amateur modeling, bar tending, go go dancing, whatever pays better than a minimum wage McDonald's job. Quite frankly I don't blame them. There's not many jobs where women can make a good amount of money at a young age.

sponsors

Yeah that happens in PL but much less than it did in the past like the 90's and early 2000's. Not nearly as common as back in the day and even then it was fairly low key although you'd often see some 60 year old dude with some young polish girl

, is screwed as far as their career is concerned. Imagine being a lawyer/doctor and coming across your ex customer/sponsor.

Nah not necessarily. You just don't put it on your resume or write that you had a different role or make it sound like a normal job. I run into people I've met at college parties or at some 4-20 social and if anything I'd say it's made our business relationship better.
LOVEANDORDER 1 | 15
7 Feb 2018 #37
I'm pretty sure Polish are one of the most humble loving and honest people you will meet in the universe!! just after Italians, Mexicans, Filipinos !! <3
WielkiPolak 56 | 1,007
7 Feb 2018 #38
I've never met a Polish person I feel like I could actually trust. They always seem to be a warm or nice bunch of people but to me this all seems feigned.

I've had completely the opposite experience. In general Polish people are honest, sometimes even bluntly so. American and British people act 'warm' and 'friendly' and then stab you in the back.

they always seem to act like a clan. If you don't agree with a Polish person, then they will tell the other person etc. and you will be booted or ostracized from their social group.

A lot of people act like - it isn't a Polish trait. Plus there are also many who don't act like this - stop generalising.

Maybe it seems kind of rude of me to ask but I have actually never met such people with such a seemingly deactivating negative or arrogant atmosphere as the Polish... And also a love/hate relationship.

Personally I think you're just here to provoke. Polish people are not known for being negative or arrogant. You just posted this to get a reaction.

Poles are very jealous people and they would actually rather want to see the other Polish person fall into the mud rather than be more successful than themselves.

This is the only accusations you have made that has some truth to it. Polish people have been known to resent each others achievements and tell on each other, particularly in foreign countries. People of other nationalities generally stick together more.

There was an interesting story told recently, by somebody who did an interview with the immigration office in the USA and asked why so many Polish people were being deported from the USA, but for example, not many Mexicans. He asked if the crime rates etc. were that much worse with Polish people? The person he was interviewing laughed and said 'no, the difference is, when a Mexican is here illegally, his fellow Mexicans hide him and help him out. When a Polish person is here illegally, his fellow Poles, rather than keeping it quiet and helping him out, decide to hand him in. This is why so many Poles get caught and handed in.
Lyzko 45 | 9,440
7 Feb 2018 #39
One's very first impression, at least in my case, of multi-aged male Poles who've crossed my path over the years (especially if I were speaking to them in English at first, rather than Polish!), is that of smart aleck, full of one upmanship and seemingly invasive questions about me, followed by blunt, snap judgements as to who they think I "must" be, based solely on their initial impression.

I've come to expect same whenever I meet up with a male Pole (Jewish Poles as well). and I've never been disappointed to date:-)

Examples: "So why you are speaking Polish?", "You must be Jew, yes?", "You are married?", "Why you never lived in Poland?", "You talking **** about Poland...!" etc.

On the other hand, at least one cannot accuse them of NOT speaking their minds. However, it does tend to put on on the defensive a little, even if this wasn't exactly their intent.

I merely take it all with humor, plus a healthy grain of salt and never let it bother me.
johnny reb 48 | 7,133
7 Feb 2018 #40
(Jewish Poles as well).

How about Catholic Poles or Evangelist Poles ?
You never miss an opportunity do you.

is that of smart aleck, full of one upmanship and seemingly invasive questions about me,

Very well put yet when you turn the table on them they become EXTREMELY defensive and act like you have insulted them.
Lyzko 45 | 9,440
7 Feb 2018 #41
Yep, Johnny!

What I meant by distinguishing between Jewish and non-Jewish Poles is simply that in the end, both are Polish nationals and citizens, they just practice a different religion. You see, I've come to the conclusion that nationality as opposed to ethnicity, is sort of like a club. If the members pay their dues, why oughtn't they become (and remain) members, huh? But unlike a club, one's membership in that nationality never expires, save if the citizen chooses to relinquish their citzenship, i.e. choose an different nationality:-) Their religion though will, of course, always stay the same. A Catholic is a Catholic no matter in which country they live, same for a Jew or any other.
equiti - | 5
9 Sep 2023 #42
This shouldn't be an open question at this point, anymore. I have likely met all nationalities throughout my life and Poles seem to be the most unusual ones, by far. Even though this seems so obvious to us, they generally react extremely negatively to anyone ever mentioning it. They do appear to take a lot very personally, which is subconsciously considered immature by most non-Poles. To your question whether you can trust them as a non-Pole: Since Poles generally only click with non-Poles if they've been exposed to an external culture for longer, mutual trust would better depend on a written contract. Needless to say, I suspect that Poles themselves trust each other more. I am not certain about that, however, since I notice a lot of distrust in the very nature of how they communicate.
Lyzko 45 | 9,440
9 Sep 2023 #43
When you state " Since Poles generally only click with non-Poles...".
I can't agree entirely.

I've found a strong degree of homogeneity in Polish society, particularly with Poles in Polish communities in the US who tend, as all national groups, to stick together through thick and thin, rarely if ever allowing outsiders to eve truly enter the fold!

However, if by "click" you mean that many younger Poles in Poland especially tend to purposely seek out non-Poles, almost exclusively from exotic countries such as North Africa, Latin America or Asia, as partners (either sexual or Platonic) in order to show they are as multi-cultural as anybody else, you definitely do have a point.
Novichok 4 | 8,094
9 Sep 2023 #44
Needless to say, I suspect that Poles themselves trust each other more.

Trust is best tested when something of value is involved. We trust bs every day since there is nothing at stake.

Question: How many people do you trust enough to let them have your $10,000 for safekeeping and count on getting it back a year later?

My trust ends at $100 - the amount I could gift.
Bobko 25 | 2,101
9 Sep 2023 #45
I think that it's not a little bit funny, that this is a forum where so many Poles feel they can talk about Russians in the same manner in which Himmler spoke about Gypsies and Jews, while the front page currently has the following threads:

1) Poles are arrogant
2) Poles are strange
3) Poles treat women like sh!t
4) Poles commit grisly crimes
5) Poles have issues with their schools.

Just the front page, lol! We Russians must really be animals, if even Poles feel they can wipe their feet on us.
pawian 224 | 24,479
9 Sep 2023 #46
Why are Polish people so strange & unusual?

I don`t know. I have always been so. Apish ancestry, I suppose.

they generally react extremely negatively to anyone ever mentioning it.

Not true, ty patologiczny skurwysynu!

I suspect that Poles themselves trust each other more.

Not true. I whole heartedly distrust rightist Poles. They are skurwysyny from under the dark star. All of them - I have already learnt it on multiple examples. .
GefreiterKania 35 | 1,396
9 Sep 2023 #47
even Poles

Well, "Poles are a great nation but the people are kurwas", as the Good Marshall PiƂsudski used to say.

On the other hand, perhaps it was our "lovely" character that helped us survive being stuck between Germans and Russians for over 1000 years. ;)
pawian 224 | 24,479
9 Sep 2023 #48
We Russians must really be animals

Imperiaist Russians are fekking animals. Decent Russians are good people. Simple
Bobko 25 | 2,101
9 Sep 2023 #49
On the other hand, perhaps it was our "lovely" character

I actually think it's lovely, without quotation marks. My point - really - is that for a nation which gets dumped on so much, for the exact same reasons the Brits and Americans love to dump on us (see front page list of topics)... it's kind of myopic for Poles to join in on the Russia bashing.
GefreiterKania 35 | 1,396
9 Sep 2023 #50
for a nation which gets dumped on so much (...) it's kind of myopic for Poles to join in on the Russia bashing

You've got a good point there.
pawian 224 | 24,479
9 Sep 2023 #51
I actually think it's lovely,

You've got a good point there

Guys, get a room for a deeper discussion coz the forum isn`t enough to contain all your pleasantries. hahahaha


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