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I hate Warsaw. The worst part about living here is the people who move here from small towns, villages..


sobieski 107 | 2,128
1 Nov 2012 #31
Ah I completely agree with that statement :)
I always head for the bar and a cold beer. Which is now legal to order on PKP :)
On my commuter train there is no such service, eehh.... :)
OP Dominika99 1 | 93
1 Nov 2012 #32
You've only "been" to London, whereas I have lived there for a third of my life

I lived in London for a year and a half... maybe things have changed now, but I was there a decade ago and sure there were arrogant people but I didn't get the bad vibes that I do in Warsaw.

Sometimes we just like certain places, and dislike others. It's personal taste and not much to argue about. I Thought that it was just me at first who didn't like Warsaw, but it seems to rub a lot of my foreigner friends (and Poles) the wrong way.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,671
1 Nov 2012 #33
in London it;s very much by area tho' isn't it?
you would have a quite different 'people' experience in say....Chelsea than Brixton innit?
I suppose warsaw is that bit smaller.
OP Dominika99 1 | 93
1 Nov 2012 #34
I guess so. I was going off what I know about life in central Warsaw and London, and not the different atmospheres of various neighborhoods.
Wroclaw Boy
1 Nov 2012 #35
I was going off what I know about life in central Warsaw and London

You lived in London fair enough. Where else?
OP Dominika99 1 | 93
1 Nov 2012 #36
Not interested in sharing my life story here, sorry.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,671
1 Nov 2012 #37
I was going off what I know about life in central Warsaw and London, and n

right and I was suggesting that it's not really a reasonable comparison. - it's a forum y know?
OP Dominika99 1 | 93
1 Nov 2012 #38
I was saying how I don't like Warsaw, and I liked other cities better. Seems reasonable to me.
Wroclaw Boy
1 Nov 2012 #39
I was saying how I don't like Warsaw, and I liked other cities better.

another Pole ashamed of her heritage i think. Lived in the UK for a few years and thinks shes arrived. Thats what im seeing anyway.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,671
1 Nov 2012 #40
look if you don't want answers or discussions get off the internet forums and go and shave your *****
OP Dominika99 1 | 93
1 Nov 2012 #41
another Pole ashamed of her heritage i think. Lived in the UK for a few years and thinks shes arrived. Thats what im seeing anyway.

You don't know anything about me, so I don't really care what you see.

ook if you don't want answers or discussions get off the internet forums and go and shave your *****

I don't shave, I wax.

Not sure what there is to discuss with you? You seem more interested in showing off how clever you are than in making a point.
Wroclaw Boy
1 Nov 2012 #42
You don't know anything about me, so I don't really care what you see.

Thats good but dont forget where you came from, its a culture shock both ways, im giving you pearls here.

You havent been anywhere other than London.
OP Dominika99 1 | 93
1 Nov 2012 #43
You havent been anywhere other than London.

If you say so :)
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,671
1 Nov 2012 #44
You seem more interested in showing off how clever you are than in making a point.

really do I ?
you sound as though you have permanent PMT and have no concept of 'discussion'
OP Dominika99 1 | 93
1 Nov 2012 #45
you sound as though you have permanent PMT and have no concept of 'discussion'

Then don't talk to me.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,671
1 Nov 2012 #46
ok your'e right to be honest talking to negative twats who boast about their clean shaven ***** and how they hate everything is a bit below me.

Bye.
OP Dominika99 1 | 93
1 Nov 2012 #47
What a coincidence - talking to hairy b-tches who like to pick fights and nag about everything is below me, too. Bye.
Wroclaw Boy
1 Nov 2012 #48
Dom99 please dont be so hasty to judge Warsaw, there are major negatives and positives associated to both cities. Does Warsaw have the dangerous no go zones like London? Warsaw will be London or like many other leading capitalist countries capital cities in a few years time.

I say embrace it while it lasts, there are no better or worst cities, it all boils down to personal interpretation and human conditioning - essentially the environments that we are expossed to.

Youve lived in London for a few years - great. But thats where the ball stops.
OP Dominika99 1 | 93
1 Nov 2012 #49
Dom99

I only lived in London for about a year and a half, and I'm not really comparing it to Warsaw... I was mostly writing about my impressions of Warsaw compared to other big cities I've lived in or seen, in Poland and abroad.

I gave Warsaw an honest chance. I've lived here for almost six years. I don't walk around in a cloud of hatred all day, and I've enjoyed my time here. It's just that I never really got to love the city. A lot of people didn't. We're entitled to that opinion?

I'm not bashing Poland, either. I loved Poznan (probably my favourite city here,) and Gdansk and Sopot were great, and Wroclaw was nice too.

I just never felt comfortable in Warsaw, and it's not the size or fast-paced life because I've lived in bigger cities and felt at ease.

Anyways people seem to be getting too emotional about this. Let's just say I'm happy that I'm leaving here, but I'll also have some good memories to take away.
Wroclaw Boy
1 Nov 2012 #50
happy days.

there sure are some ****** places around, often its not the places it the people. grass is greener scenario does come into play sometimes aswell.

me, i just want to live in a place where there are not many people.
pip 10 | 1,661
1 Nov 2012 #51
I will say it again. Your post is not wrong. Warsaw can be a difficult place to live. I don't usually get bothered too much by it. I posted a while back how some guy chased me down and swore at me because I didn't turn fast enough for him. There was no sign to indicate a right of way- I am just supposed to know, so I gave him the finger and he followed me. He pulled up beside me as I was going over a speed bump and starting swearing at me while my 7 year old is in the car.

Unfortunately this behaviour is not out of the ordinary for Warsaw.

I think there is something about living in a city that is crammed full of people- Warsaw has a large population in a small area--it takes its toll having people constantly breathing down your neck.
OP Dominika99 1 | 93
1 Nov 2012 #52
I'm into nature as a get-away vacation, but I get bored quickly if I have to be around it for too long.

I love big cities and crowds that I can get lost in, full of unfamiliar cultures; cities with a past that continue to surprise, that are always a struggle and challenge to understand. I love the feeling of not quite fitting in but still feeling at home, cities by oceans or waters, where there's movement of people and ideas.

I love cities like Cairo, London, Dubai and Los Angeles... all massive metropolis monsters, where the food is spicy and the cultures clash :)

It might be unfair to judge Warsaw in the light of such gems, but to be fair I didn't really like New York either.
pip 10 | 1,661
1 Nov 2012 #53
I love New York- but to each their own. I also like Paris, Vancouver and Montreal---and some people hate them.
OP Dominika99 1 | 93
1 Nov 2012 #54
I also like Paris

Oh yeah, probably the most beautiful city I've ever seen, from an architecture and aesthetic standpoint.

some guy chased me down and swore at me because I didn't turn fast enough for him

Well, I was taking photos inside of a milk bar (bar mleczny,) and some guy thought I was photographing him and threatened to literally cut my neck with my dull butter knife. He had a lot of bags with him, so I assumed he was a crazy homeless man, but I never did go back to that bar again.
NorthMancPolak 4 | 648
1 Nov 2012 #55
I lived in London for a year and a half...

Earlier, you said you have "been" to London, not lived there. That makes a big difference.

maybe things have changed now, but I was there a decade ago

That's a long time, especially in London. It has changed a LOT since then (and not necessarily for the better).

and sure there were arrogant people but I didn't get the bad vibes that I do in Warsaw.

You should go back. I'm not saying that will make you love Warsaw, but you may find that London isn't quite the same place you remember.

I say embrace it while it lasts, there are no better or worst cities

This is good advice.

Well, I was taking photos inside of a milk bar (bar mleczny,) and some guy thought I was photographing him and threatened to literally cut my neck with my dull butter knife.

To be fair, it's never a good idea to take photos of other people without permission, any seasoned traveller/expat would (or should) know this.

Oh yeah, probably the most beautiful city I've ever seen, from an architecture and aesthetic standpoint.

It's all subjective. I've been to Paris once, and I'm in no hurry to return. I've been to Warsaw dozens of times, and I will be back soon :)

in London it;s very much by area tho' isn't it?
you would have a quite different 'people' experience in say....Chelsea than Brixton innit?
I suppose warsaw is that bit smaller.

Indeed. Each borough has its own character. Enfield's probably the friendliest place I've ever lived in my life, yet it's nothing like the London which tourists would see.

Warsaw can't really be compared to places like London, Hong Kong or NYC, it's not big enough for a start.
poland_
1 Nov 2012 #56
I gave Warsaw an honest chance.

Every city should be judged on its own merits and not compared to other cities. I like Warsaw because it is easy and familiar to me, when I look at the architecture or observe how people behave to one and other, it is less impressive.

What a coincidence - talking to hairy b-tches who like to pick fights and nag about everything is below me, too. Bye.

My money is on Dominika 99, in this cat fight.

some guy chased me down and swore at me because I didn't turn fast enough for him.

Thats why I carry CS gas in my car
militaria.pl
OP Dominika99 1 | 93
1 Nov 2012 #57
I'd love to go back, someday I hope. I lived in Islington when I was there, earlier I was in Colchester and Southend-on-Sea. Would be interesting to see if those places were as nice as I remembered.

To be fair, it's never a good idea to take photos of other people without permission, any seasoned traveller/expat would (or should) know this.

I wasn't taking his photo... why would I want a souvenir of some guy eating? There was a cool-looking menu hanging above him on the wall, and I had my cam held up at that, not at his face. he reacted like the crazy homeless guy he probably was.
Zibi - | 336
1 Nov 2012 #58
I love Warsaw for so many reasons, that it would be hard for me to enumerate them or in what order. And I am not native to this town either, although more than 20 years have passed since I moved here.
OP Dominika99 1 | 93
1 Nov 2012 #59
I love Warsaw for so many reasons, that it would be hard for me to enumerate them or in what order.

Still, a list like that would be interesting to see.

The only thing that comes to my mind now are Sundays (or were they Saturdays) in the summer in Ogrod Saski, when this band came to play old Polish songs and a stand by the fountain sold gofry and tea. That was nice. And the sun was out.
1jola 14 | 1,879
2 Nov 2012 #60
So, you don't like being stared at and you dine at Bar Mleczny and snap photos. May I suggest one of many sushi bars? There'll be people like you sitting there and you all can photograph each other at will and send the photos back to your villages.

Funny that you don't want to admit this was the only city you really felt safe in, unless you did feel safe in Cairo, London, and LA at night.

Here's what I don't like. Some cvnt from Gdansk came to my city and put up a huge metal rainbow at taxpayers cost in front of the church I was baptized in. This , of course, delights the homosexuals world wide. Luckly, someone torched it a few weeks ago. She is rebuilding it, although it was to be dismantled in January anyway. You've seen it. What did you think of it?


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