The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland?

You beat me to it. I read that late last night and thought of posting it here but had other thing s to do.

It's amazing that things like that can happen in a supposedly developed country. Doubtless some of the trolls here will say that they think she should have had a gun too. Perhaps they like shootouts with bullets flying everywhere.


Yes. The gun laws here work and of course there is no significant public opinion in favour of weakening them.

Hold on to your shorts jon357, the laws will be weakening the closer Poland gets to war time.

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Perhaps less catastrophic than in your country (and Canada sadly has a high level of gun ownership too).

In Europe, people are happy the way things are.

@johnny reb


And do you think that is reasonable? I get it that hunting may have been a necessary skill to learn as early as possible in rural areas 200 years ago, but today? The USA is a civilized country with what I can only assume broad access to supermarkets. Children should not have access to guns period. If they want to get extra fresh food, they can always go fishing.

@Novichok


Leaving aside the risk of accidental discharges. Living without cars or bathtubs is difficult, they pose little risk while offering great benefits. Guns do not offer any tangible benefits while posing great risks to yourself and your family. Living without them has no impact on your daily life, but your family will thank you for it. "At least now grandpa is less likely to shoot me" would be a very reassuring thought for them.

Perhaps you mean, how things WERE.
Times are changing very fast today, jon357

No, how things are.

You might notice that the people in this thread from Europe are not advocating for the gun laws to be worsened here.

Not for much longer though, jon357
That's because those people like you here are all hard core Liberal Woke boot lickers.
Once the war moves into Poland the Polish people will be begging for guns to protect themselves from the bad guys.
The war is inching closer to Poland every day now.
The Polish government will order every homeowner to own a gun for everyone in the family over 18.
You better get yours now before the prices start going up.
I suggest an AK-47 with a couple of banana magazines taped together with at least a 1000 rounds of hollow point ammo hidden under the floor boards of your bedroom.

All the women will be carrying a .380's in their pocket so if a Muzzy terrorist tries to rape them they can shoot him in the balls before he cuts her throat.

Paulina will have a gun in each pocket and one in her purse when the time comes.
Just wait and see jon357.

Put your crystal ball down.

Opinion has been consistent here for a long time.


Sources?

And will they also explain what happens to franc-tireurs in wartime?

I'm not sure what good a crappy handgun fired by an amateur middle aged man like me is going to do against North Nigerian armored vehicles.

Isn't it better to invest in drones, fighters, missiles etc ?

@Tacitus
In the US, there is a very old and deep rooted hunting tradition and culture. Also in the US are heards of very big White Tail Deer, that absolutely have to be managed by hunters due to so many car/deer fatal accidents. In Michigan in particular, insurance rates are extremely high because of such a high rate of these accidents. And the deer in the US are so much larger than the deer in Poland that you would be surprised. I have taken one from the woods, dressed out at over 90 kilos.

As for the gun laws in Europe, they are what they are. They will likely change though if the war, or threat of war becomes greater in the EU. The EU and Poland still nowhere near enough soldiers trained to defend against Russia if Russia comes in 6 to 8 years. And if they do come, you will wish you had something to fight back with and defend your home and family. Its easy for people not living in a country directly bordering Russia to say whatever TF they want when they wont directly face anything if it happens. It would be like me heading back to the States and saying Europe doesnt need guns. Easy to say from far away.

So do our deer. So does wildlife in Poland. Yet we manage this without weak gun controls.


Why?

And in the highly unlikely situation that safety laws are weakened, there will be strict controls, for example not giving them to people with a history of felony, people who've taken Prozac etc for depression and people who haven't been screened by a psychiatrist or psychologist.


From tanks?

You are paranoid and weak.

No, moron, that was not a home invasion. That was an old fool killing a woman who posed no threat to the idiot.
Home invasion is when some azhole enters your house without your permission to commit a felony. Duh!

Stupid like a Polak...Things never change...

It was a home invasion by a crazed taxi driver.

The guy was totally correct to blast her away with no questions asked

Because bootlicking is in your DNA. The obedience training by kings' goons, Gestapo, and UB did not go to waste.

In the US, the average response time after we call 911 is 11 minutes. In winter on a bad day, it's infinity.
This makes cops 100% useless. They are just body counters. So it's just you and the bad guys...Good luck with that, Euro bootlickers...

Hey, stupid, he shot her when they were outside.

The Uber driver, Loletha Hall, was found shot multiple times near 81-year-old William Brock's South Charleston home...

"near" is not inside...Duh!

The sidewalk is not home, idiot...Home is where we sleep, eat, shyt, and watch teevee...In Europe, where you take a shower once a week...

No, it has not.

Memo to bootlickers: With a gun, you can always keep it unloaded if you are concerned about statistics. Or remove the trigger.

When the moment comes and the cops are only 15 minutes away, you can quickly reassemble it, load the mag with ammo, and shove it up your gun's butt. While you are busy doing all this, your wife will be happy to entertain your uninvited guests in your bedroom. Tell her not to scream or she will wake up the kids.

How do you like my plan?

She was on his lawn. With intent to invade. A psychopathic uber driver

Her death was totally justified

Thank you. I'm good with that. Now can you leave us alone to decide what gun laws we want?

No, moron. They were both on the sidewalk. Sidewalk belongs to the city, not home.

Intent is not enough to kill. Actual invasion may be and then only if you have a reason to believe you are under an immediate threat of bodily injury or death. Duh!

When the person inside the house is leaving and the homeowner shoots him, the homeowner will be going down for murder.

He was absolutely in danger - she was a lunatic cab driver.

The guy deserves a medal, not a felony charge. One less Uber criminal in Ohio

I am not trying to tell you what gun laws you should have. I am just enjoying the realization that the Americans here - JR, PAK and me - are of one opinion and you, Euros, are bootlicking slime but still smart enough to keep DC on speed dial. You know...those damn raping Russkies...

Something you didn't know...In the woke US cities like Portland, we have three emergency numbers: 911 to call cops with guns, 811 when we want social workers without guns, and 69 for a blow job...

Then take it to your USA thread and stop boring us.

@jon357
Call me paranoid and weak? I promise you would never say that to my face.

As for Deer, the average Polish Roe Deer is half that of the average White Tail. Poland has about a half million of these in the whole country. There are two million deer in Michigan alone. I use Michigan because thats JR's vantage point. The deinsity of deer population makes hunting not only important, but a necessity.

@Novichok
You cant talk common sense to a man who thinks other men are for fvcking. They already prove they suffer from mental disease.

I would be more afraid of American whales. Black, 300 pounds, walks on two legs and destroys fast-food joints when coffee is not the right temp.

How many deer should there be ? They were there long before the white man

@cms neuf
I wont argue a point on the natives. Should we argue points on how many Zubr were in Poland before Europeans hunted? Maybe we should talk about all the whaling done by Europeans?

No because we don't hunt whales or zubr any more.

Mind you if I could get a gun I for sure would go off and blast a few peaceful bison

You mean the guy who created the most powerful country on earth? That guy?

It has, and we enjoy living somewhere safer than you do.


Mao Zedong?