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Gun control in Poland: should Polish people be allowed to own guns?


jon357  72 | 24441
15 hrs ago   #841
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You wouldn't know "put to rest" if it climbed into your battered old car, ran over that fake wishing well you have in your garden and bummed Lil' Stabby.

Repeating the same nonsense about wanting gun laws weakened doesn't make any difference, In Europe we are happy without your high levels of gun crime.

debate

This is not a debating club.
mafketis  41 | 11533
14 hrs ago   #842
obsession with guns; it relates to the principle of freedom

More likely it's lingering effect of the frontier experience. Generations of people pushing across the continent mean that people on the frontier had to deal with not having state institutions at ready disposal. They had to be able to defend themselves from various dangers... (including others who were on the frontier).

The frontier experience did more to shape American national character than any other single event or process and is the root of many, many things that mystify Europeans.
jon357  72 | 24441
14 hrs ago   #843
More likely it's lingering effect of the frontier experience. Generations of people pushing across the continent

Makes sense. We did all that 1500 years ago, so it's settled down a bit. Our residents of Dodge City spoke Latin, Welsh and Englisc.
OP Novichok  6 | 9862
14 hrs ago   #844
It means nothing in Europe.

...until you, Euroholes, need men who hold cups with their fists, not two fingers...

Last time, Frenchies folded like a cheap beach chair. Danes even faster. Norway the same...Belgium and the Netherlands - 2 days...

From Wikipedia:

After heavy shelling and bombing, Polish forces in Warsaw officially surrendered to the Germans on September 28, 1939.

...in 4 weeks...

Typical for you when you are losing a debate to get nasty.

That's what these parasites do all the time...

To my relief, the US and Americans are their favorite targets.

It would be fun to watch Europe in flames on CNN, with a sixpack and a bag of popcorn next to me...laughing my ass off...and recalling all the insults..."Golden Cow", "trumpists"..."gun nuts"...keep it up, morons,...
OP Novichok  6 | 9862
14 hrs ago   #845
heavy gun control is the will of the people.

In the US, you cannot vote to deprive me of my ability to defend my family and myself.

The idiocy of "we will make you unsafe and defenseless for the safety of others" is as perverted as it gets.

The question gun-hating morons never answer:

2 am. Two drugged up scumbgs just busted through the front door.

What's next?


The answer: In Poland, we don't have front doors.

Or silence, lame joke...or anything to weasel out...Consistent with why kids cover their eyes when scared...If I don't see it, it doesn't exist.
Ironside  51 | 13307
13 hrs ago   #846
More likely it's lingering effect of the frontier experience.

There is no doubt that a lingering effect from the frontier experience exists, contributing to an atmosphere of acceptance around guns. However, I wouldn't overstate its impact. The main issue at hand is the concept of freedom and the so-called Constitutional rights. I believe you may not fully understand the U.S. Constitution and are searching for justifications to support your viewpoint on guns.
mafketis  41 | 11533
13 hrs ago   #847
The main issue at hand is the concept of freedom

The concept of freedom and the frontier experience exist in a feedback loop...

so-called Constitutional rights

why "so-called"?

The Bill of Rights prevents the government from doing certain things, like naming an official religion.

One of those areas that the Federal Government cannot legislate is restrictions on gun ownership.

The US Supreme Court (ultimate arbiter of what the Constitution does and does not mean) has ruled that this is not limited to militias regulated by the government.
Alien  28 | 7061
12 hrs ago   #848
would be fun to watch Europe in flames on CNN

I'm currently watching US, Iran and Israel in flames on BBC. They don't say anything about Europe.
jon357  72 | 24441
12 hrs ago   #849
The concept of freedom and the frontier experience exist in a feedback loop...

Every country has its own cultural DNA. Ours are the Four Estates (arguably five). That document about Divvis Flats in Glasgow that you linked to is part of the Fourth Estate, as are some of the tabloid articles that trolls here occasionally link to. It may look like washing dirty linen in public, however it is in fact part of the process of maintaining stability and effecting necessary change.

In the US, you cannot vote to deprive me of my ability to defend my family and myself

No, however people with more and bigger guns than you can lay your wizened old fingers on can do precisely that and do it very efficiently and quickly.
Feniks  1 | 923
12 hrs ago   #850
We have 1 million house invasions.

That's why I have two guns

No fear in my life.

Yeah, right.

Can you even remember how many guns you have?

I do have three guns - all loade

Alien  28 | 7061
12 hrs ago   #851
Can you even remember how many guns you have

Ask him how many children he has, maybe he at least remembers that.
OP Novichok  6 | 9862
10 hrs ago   #852
Can you even remember how many guns you have?

I used to have 3. I gave the Beretta to a friend of mine so I am now down to 2.


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Ironside  51 | 13307
10 hrs ago   #853
I appreciate the quote from mafketis about the concept of freedom and the frontier experience being interconnected. While I understand that it's part of the American experience, I believe it isn't the central issue. In this context, it's an interesting idea, but it's not particularly significant.
OP Novichok  6 | 9862
9 hrs ago   #854
I believe it isn't the central issue.

The central issue is who is going to protect me when my life is about to come to a violent end.

Is it going to be King's thugs, the police, or me? Nobody is not an option.

Gun haters never answer this question. They immediately switch to statistics and probabilities.

Well...when my life is threatened, I don't give a fvck about statistics - except those based on the sample of 1 - me.
Alien  28 | 7061
2 hrs ago   #855
The central issue is who is going to protect me when my life is about to come to a violent end

I don't know anyone who would be willing to protect you.


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