Gun control in Poland: should Polish people be allowed to own guns?

You wouldn't know "put to rest" if it climbed into your battered old car, ran over that fake wishing well you have in your garden and bummed Lil' Stabby.

Repeating the same nonsense about wanting gun laws weakened doesn't make any difference, In Europe we are happy without your high levels of gun crime.


This is not a debating club.

More likely it's lingering effect of the frontier experience. Generations of people pushing across the continent mean that people on the frontier had to deal with not having state institutions at ready disposal. They had to be able to defend themselves from various dangers... (including others who were on the frontier).

The frontier experience did more to shape American national character than any other single event or process and is the root of many, many things that mystify Europeans.

Makes sense. We did all that 1500 years ago, so it's settled down a bit. Our residents of Dodge City spoke Latin, Welsh and Englisc.

...until you, Euroholes, need men who hold cups with their fists, not two fingers...

Last time, Frenchies folded like a cheap beach chair. Danes even faster. Norway the same...Belgium and the Netherlands - 2 days...

From Wikipedia:

After heavy shelling and bombing, Polish forces in Warsaw officially surrendered to the Germans on September 28, 1939.

...in 4 weeks...


That's what these parasites do all the time...

To my relief, the US and Americans are their favorite targets.

It would be fun to watch Europe in flames on CNN, with a sixpack and a bag of popcorn next to me...laughing my ass off...and recalling all the insults..."Golden Cow", "trumpists"..."gun nuts"...keep it up, morons,...

In the US, you cannot vote to deprive me of my ability to defend my family and myself.

The idiocy of "we will make you unsafe and defenseless for the safety of others" is as perverted as it gets.

The question gun-hating morons never answer:

2 am. Two drugged up scumbgs just busted through the front door.

What's next?

The answer: In Poland, we don't have front doors.

Or silence, lame joke...or anything to weasel out...Consistent with why kids cover their eyes when scared...If I don't see it, it doesn't exist.

There is no doubt that a lingering effect from the frontier experience exists, contributing to an atmosphere of acceptance around guns. However, I wouldn't overstate its impact. The main issue at hand is the concept of freedom and the so-called Constitutional rights. I believe you may not fully understand the U.S. Constitution and are searching for justifications to support your viewpoint on guns.

The concept of freedom and the frontier experience exist in a feedback loop...


why "so-called"?

The Bill of Rights prevents the government from doing certain things, like naming an official religion.

One of those areas that the Federal Government cannot legislate is restrictions on gun ownership.

The US Supreme Court (ultimate arbiter of what the Constitution does and does not mean) has ruled that this is not limited to militias regulated by the government.

I'm currently watching US, Iran and Israel in flames on BBC. They don't say anything about Europe.

Every country has its own cultural DNA. Ours are the Four Estates (arguably five). That document about Divvis Flats in Glasgow that you linked to is part of the Fourth Estate, as are some of the tabloid articles that trolls here occasionally link to. It may look like washing dirty linen in public, however it is in fact part of the process of maintaining stability and effecting necessary change.


No, however people with more and bigger guns than you can lay your wizened old fingers on can do precisely that and do it very efficiently and quickly.

Yeah, right.

Can you even remember how many guns you have?

Ask him how many children he has, maybe he at least remembers that.

I used to have 3. I gave the Beretta to a friend of mine so I am now down to 2.

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I appreciate the quote from mafketis about the concept of freedom and the frontier experience being interconnected. While I understand that it's part of the American experience, I believe it isn't the central issue. In this context, it's an interesting idea, but it's not particularly significant.

The central issue is who is going to protect me when my life is about to come to a violent end.

Is it going to be King's thugs, the police, or me? Nobody is not an option.

Gun haters never answer this question. They immediately switch to statistics and probabilities.

Well...when my life is threatened, I don't give a fvck about statistics - except those based on the sample of 1 - me.

I don't know anyone who would be willing to protect you.

I believe the constitutional right to bear arms comes from a higher authority, rooted in the natural law of self-defense. The US Constitution has formalized this principle.

Exactly.

My right to self-defense is non-negotiable and that's why it is in the US Constitution. No politician can take it away from me.

In Europe, you have what some azzhole king gives you..

You is editorial. King is your ruling class.

Not in Poland.

A country without the First and the Second is a gulag. Safe and comfortable, but a gulag nevertheless. See the UK and Germany.

We shall decide.

In Europe, we don't want their gun problems.

As a Pole, you should know that.

Subjects decide nothing. They are told.

0846 hours in Illinois.

Burglary rates per 100k population:

US 270

Poland 176

Clearly, Poland is such a safe place that no woman needs to defend herself.

As your statistics show.

Let's revisit this topic camly....

While Europeans are often aghast at gun violence statistics from the US..... More people die of heat waves in Europe than die of gun violence in the US....

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And the UK nanny state decided that since some retards had managed to fall out of windows that no one should be allowed to open their window more than a few inches...

x.com/memeticsisyphus/status/1831347657664532499

Let the reasoned discourse begin!

And here are the actual facts:

"Regulations vary depending on the type of building and between local authorities but residential dwellings are not required by law to have window restrictors. They are a recommendation, not a legal obligation, in houses and flats but some landlords chose to install window restrictors and child locks above the ground floor to protect tenants from injury or break-ins. Hotels often also have window restrictors to protect guests from falling but it is not mandatory by law. Depending on their purpose, some buildings must only have windows that open no more than 100mm. Windows restrictors are required by law in places with vulnerable people like children and the elderly including hospitals, schools and care homes."

If the ignorant lump of an American tourist had asked at reception, he would have been given a key that releases the restrictors.

So why are fans so expensive and why are Europeans so prejudiced against AC?

x.com/AndrewHammel1/status/1939960546775687208

You can open windows there. There are rules about young children living above a certain floor level in social housing and rightly so.

As Atch says, hotels often have window restrictions and that I'd guess comes from their insurers.


A waste of electric and bad for the environment. Just use a decent fan.

Anyway, it would be bizarre to install a/c just to use for 6 weeks each year..

Even to save 10s of thousands of lives? Or does the fact that most of the deaths are of older people past their productive years play a role?

Use a fan. Shade your windows. Stay hydrated

It's hard to know why this is in a thread about the importance of gun control in Europe.

And there isn't some crazily high death toll.