Hiring a Polish Worker - Pros and Cons

you are contradicting yourself in every sentence.i was trying to tell you that you direct your anger into the wrong direction but it doesn't work and you just keep repeating yourself of what you have heard from others.ok,that's your right to have your opinion but do i care?no i don't give it a shit.have a nice day looking at the house opposite with 12 people living in 2 bed flat and 12 shiny cars parked in 2 parking spaces in front of the house

Iwona a totally agree it is a goverment issue. And i do not blame Polish people in the slightest. I was in a bar last night and one Polish man was sitting alone, i spoke to him and he told me he was lonely etc, i took him into our company and meade him feel very welcome, he had some problems with paperwork etc i helped him and gave him my number if he needed any help. So i am NOT anti-polish. I just like people.

I think you are ok. just little frustrated by situation. maybe solution is for Tories to be voted next election?

I think that you are exaggerating here. Hiring a worker with poor skills just because he is cheap labor doesn't make sense. It can be a suicidal act for the firm. Building up your reputation on a market can take years, and I don't see the point why an English employer would risk to damage it by lowering the quality of his service. I also don't think that this is the case with polish skilled workers. They are not in any way worse than their English counterparts.

You also have to realize that in the end it all comes to what the English citizens will choose to do. Either they will remain joint and several towards their country men (English workers), or they will take the advantage of the more economical opportunity(Polish workers). Which one would you choose?


Welcome to the harsh reality of the capitalism. If you are not competitive you are being made redundant. Sorry.


What’s up with that? Are you being jealous? If it's true (which I truly doubt)do you think that they are enjoying living under this conditions?

There's a thought for you: take eleven friends, move to Poland and live with them in a two bedroom flat! I bet the Poles will be sooo angry!!! That would be the perfect revenge! :)

Sorry, but I would say that it looks the other way around. An average British worker has a far poorer education as well as work standards than an average Polish worker. Not to mention the fact that an average British worker is far more lazier than an average Polish worker as well as the fact that becaouse of his lack of education and laziness prefers to blame the Polish worker for his lack of success instead of looking at himself in search of the reason for his situation.

quoting Iwona >>>>marilyn, I don't want sound rude but you are quite narrow-minded person.

No you are not rude and you have an opinion like everyone else does...and if you think i am narrow minded you are quite entitled to do so..

Regarding everyone else having a go at me..thats fine..thats your opinions...I still stick with my opinions and wont budge...and all of you that think it is a big joke about the house opposite me be glad you are not looking onto it as i am..the garden and the house is a disgrace they should invest in garden tools and keep the place tidy like we do...and as far as the comment about me voting conservative next time..i have already decided who i will be voting for next time BNP party....keep smiling

just a thought here...how come if you Polish are so well educated and have such great skills that you need to come to England ? If you are soooooo good how come you didnt make a your country so great and had to leave it to come to England????

i just wonder what did you think of before writing in this forum?this is a polish forum and you are lashing out at the poles in the uk.we all know that some of this people are drunks and chavs but you prefer to generalize things even though there weren't any problems with majority of polish guys(unlike the pakis).a lot of this people have degrees and are very inteligent.is it what you are afraid of?did you come to this forum to seek some advice or just to piss a few people off?have your opinion,that's your right but i DO NOT care about it.you would be better of joining the bnp party as then you'd have a lot of friends to speak to.

may peace be with you


you should be given a medal of honour for this.i just wonder were chairs and sofas in pink in this pub?


obviously calling someone an idiot is a good example of civilised conversation .some words are a bit sharp i know but this is the only answer to the people who are so thick, that only something like this may work.do you know how long would that take to reach such a small thing like your should-be -brain-in here using normal means?

Quoting Rafik>>> Ok I get the message..I have made my point ..You made the point >>unlike the Pakis...!!!! I agree with you..but unfortunatley being English we are not allowed to say Pakis else we are took to court for racilism...we have to say Pakistanies..just another point that p...s me off..but i have been there....surely the same rule applies to you now that you are in the uk??? or is it only the English it applies to??

Anyway I have been rude to the Poles but they are not singled out ..it refers to others from europeon countries to...
I won't bother you all again....God Bless

That would be hell on earth - where would I put my shoes??

Hummmm - on the whole British people are not lazy - we have a good education system and therefore there are a lot of well educated English people, granted there are a few bums but you get them in every country - I think a few English people are getting a bit peeved because of the vast amount of people coming to work here, we are only a small Island. I dont mind Polish people working over here as long as they pay their tax and abide by our laws.....Unlike some that come here and threaten and refuse to acknowlege that they are living in a Christian country in Europe.....simple.

I think that England is getting too crowdy , emigration is good but with some boundries.
But again.....it is only government politics that can change.
It makes me feel uncomfortable but I noticed that press( daily mail) have now lots articles about emigration ,polish people here . I know that it is to warn people about Bulgaria and Romania joining UE but i think that it makes unpleasant atmosphere.

About 12 people in one house- I live in quite nice new development in Peterborough and we have our website. I was reading letter from someone quite frightened when he saw 10 young polish men moving to house next to.And ..... he doesn't complain at all they work hard, are quiet he even lent them his tv as they were bored between shifts.

he was only laughing that some of these lads mown lown only in their pants.
But maybe thye feel like in english saying "home is my castle".

I've just discovered this site and have been reading avidly for about 2 hours. Much of it is useful and interesting, but I have to say that some of you behave like children fighting over who has the bigger lollipop!! "mine's bigger than yours"...."no, it's not, mine's bigger than yours"!!!!

The flying insults, barbed comments, jingoistic tripe that is being hammered out between some of you is hysterical.......and ultimately, boring......take a rest and come back when you've cooled off or at least, have something worthwhile to contribute......

i feel " threatened " by the polish workers in my work because they work hard, are on time and i doubt they will ever be off.

unlike the scots who are always taking " sickies" coming in late and taking ages for their break

the scots workers take the " bad look off of me"

poland is seven

one ahead of uk

so yes krysia im 6 hours ahead of you

i maybe six hours older than you lol

Do what Australia does - if you don't like it here, can't accept the rules, laws etc, pay taxes and N.I. Contributions like the rest of the population then DON'T come here. This island ain't for over-crowding - we can't feed you, store enough water for all, provide free gas, electricity, car, house, TV and DVD. Stay where you belong - you might be better off.

free gas? for whom ?

WHY ?? do you come to our country, is it for the free handouts you send back to your families in Poland?? is it for our health system?? Our goverments to soft and is spending the English peoples taxes that they have paid into all their lives..Through the likes of yourselves and others coming here to work at a cheaper pay not because you are more qualified than ourselves but because you are prepared to take less money and bleed our benefit system. You may wonder why you get a bad response from English people its because we have had enough of too many immigrants coming to our small island..but believe me things will change. People now are looking to the far right to votem, they have had enough.

James4u,

Voting won't change the view of business, which is more output for less wages. It's about profit. So, you might be better off arguing your case with your boss. But I'm sure you already know what he is going to say.

There is another side to this. We can stay here where costs are lower and watch as all the business comes to us. I for one don't mind if, for example, car production moves to Poland.

Be careful what you wish.

Sorry to disapoint you wroclaw but the voting does count if push comes to shove..more and more English people are turning to the BNP party and if that happens England will eventually turn round to the good old days..some companies may move to Poland and other countries..thats fine..but others will take the opportunity to get business in England..if that happens then you can stay in your own country and enjoy all your benefits there ..no wonder people are against immigrants in this country with the attitude they have..do you really think that the English are going to take it..NO WAY..there will be an uprising..

James4u,

Anyone who turns to the BNP [in my opinion] is certainly misguided. I think the next government in the UK will be Conservative as they are the only viable opposition. Voters may choose the BNP in [some] local elections but that's about as far as it will go.

I don't think that places like Bradford will vote in the BNP.

I agree with you.

Wroclaw I would expect an answer like that...people are misguided if they vote BNP..and yes you are right they won't stand in parliment just yet..it will take time ..but believe me they are building stronger by the day...do you have a right to vote Wroclaw or are you just a visitor to my country??

I don't mind if conservative get in as I agree with most of their policies on immigrants as they seem to have the same views as countries like Australia...

Myself and my family have not worked all our lives and paid high taxes to fund immigrants..
How can you live in this country when so many are against you?? Why don't you go home and make a go of it there ?? or do they not give you the benefits that you drain from England...

Lets start by halting ALL immigration. We simply cannot justify bringing foreign nationals here whilst we have people on jobseekers allowance.

Please dont bore me with the excuse that most brits wont do all the cheap labour or menial dirty work.

The mistake we make here is letting the lazy scroungers assume they have a choice wether they would like to work or not.

You either work and contribute to the system and the britsh way of life, or you do not receive the benifits available whilst you are out of work.

Wont work?......no benifits. Its that simple.
Asylum Seekers, do me a really big favour.

Do not insult my intelligence by assuming i dont uinderstand your motives for coming here. Only a minute percentage of asylum seekers are actually in danger of losing there lives.

The rest are economic migrants(i have already dealt with this) GO HOME
Legitimate asylum seekers, well its harsh but why travel half way around the globe to pick an economy or language or culture your happy with?

If my life or the life of my family was in danger, i would happily go anywhere.

Im inclined to say this, sorry but you aint my problem.
This goverment of ours has compounded all of these problems quite frankly because they just dont know what they are doing in some cases.
In other areas such as immigration, and let me tell you, regardless of Government figures there are huge numbers of POLISH, ROMANIAN AND BULGARIAN immigrants already here working and they have the full backing of our goverment.

DID YOU KNOW THE ESTIMATED COST TO US BEING TIED TO THE EU IS APPROX £75 PER HEAD PER YEAR.......OUR POPULATION IS APPROX SIXTY MILLION.

Do you know why this labour government wants them here?

INFLATION

CAPITALISM

GLOBILISATION

Theres a few reasons, you see if the government keeps the wages down then this helps inflation stay down.

This is an excellent idea at business level, i mean by this , it makes lots of money for the business owners etc.

However this money or these benifits seldom, if ever filter through to the ordinary man and woman on the street.
So you see, immigration is not good for us, its bad for us.

Skill shortages may be the only area i would allow immigration.

It seems harsh but i would only allow economic mogration if the candidate posessed a skill we are in need of.
However this would only be on a rolling temporary basis.

Say for instance we have a shortage of doctors in Newcastle upon tyne, recruit doctors from the eastern bloc or wherever else until such time as we have trained our own doctors to fill these positions.

Its a win, win situation, the doctors come here and earn vastly more than they could have in there own countries, they have the experience of working in another country, and are better equipped wen they return home.

Alternatively they could maybe go on to another area of the country that has a skill shortage.
Education, dont know about you, but im more than happy with the structure of our schools

of course we could always do things different, no system is perfect but its a good mark to aim for.
I would however stop all teaching of religion, this is something that as adults we can make our own minds up about.

In would come subjects like Bricklaying, Plumbing, Electronics and Engineering.

These are subjects and skills we can give to our kids to enable them for the work place, surely they have to be worth more than an A level in Theology?

Out would go Catholic schools, Islamic schools There is no place for religion in education, it creates divides that we do not need.

These madrasas would go for sure, sorry but these kids rocking back and forth remind me of one flew over the cuckoos nest.

I really wonder how healthy this is.
I know there are lots of you who may be very sceptical about this, but i believe this country can be great again.

But we have to take a long hard look at ourselves, it will be difficult, but the longer we leave the more difficult it will become.

that is so funny!!!! have you ever heard an opinion that british health insurance is the worst in the world from the british?
a friend of mine /full insurance in uk/ had to deliver in hall...because of the "traffic" in the hospital....

let me tell you... you don't know what you're talking about

I am Polish and I lived in England for more than a year, with my little son. I was going to settle down there, but then I changed my decision. Not because of English but... Polish 'friends' that I brought with me. They changed my life into hell there.

I am grateful to English people for much help that I received from them, I admire their tolerance. A very friendly nation and I met great people there. If there are some English who dont like the fact that so many Poles came to UK, I understand them in a way.I am pretty sure that Polish nation wouldn't be so tolerant if we had so many English people in Poland....I wish Polish people were half that tolerant and friendly like English are...

I think that most of us have welcomed the hard working and curteous Polish people. There are a few people who resent you being here but mostly they are idiotic and lazy people. On the whole we are tolerant people, maybe less so than a few years ago. I am sorry that things did not work out for you this time but hopefully you may come back some day.

I don't think it is particulary anti Polish feeling or anti East European, i think people are more concerned with numbers that's all Globetrotter. I don't blame anyone coming to the UK to work. I guess the fact that only UK, Ireland and Sweden opened their borders initially led to such a high level of migration..

EXCUSE ME!?!?

Well because 1. We again became a country after the first world war (after that germany austria and russia were occupying us). Then hitler attacked us after 10 years... AND OFCOURSE you who are so great (our allies) REALLY damn came to help us THANKS ALOT.... So the country was totally destroyed.... then came russia with the communist ******** and held us away for a long time.... in 1990 we finally got free... But still lots of old stuff has to be managed... Please dont speak if you dotn know much about the topic

Marilyn, what is the big deal of helping a fellow human in their time of need? The brits need to learn about the rest of the "cultured" world that is kind to others outside their immediate mother, father, child relations. The brits are kinder to their freaking dogs than they are to their fellow human beings including their neigbors and people on the street. Get off our high horse, and don't think that you brits live such a privelaged, haughty life. I have lived in 8 differnent countries in the past 12 years and my experience in the UK was the WORST, mostly due to the people. Nasty, ugly, unfriendly, uncaring, cold specimen of humans. Living in the UK was like HELL on earth. The only people who can appreciate the uk are the Brits and refugees from africa or asia. NOBODY ELSE!

Ah thats good, one less idiot !!

I think at the end of the day it supports capitalism to bring down the wall and flood England with yet more cheap labour. It keeps the British working class in bay by threatening them with 'if you do not want the job I can get 10 poles to do the same job for half the money'. America would not have ended Communism in Europe unles it benefited us in some way. The Poles can work hard but only in doing simple jobs. They tend to overestimate their abilities. We have some bad experiences of their work in house electrics-nearly burnt down the house! They will say 'yes I know how' in order to get the contract but in practice they can not. They would be good in a warehouse where they just sort things but I would not allow one under the bonet of my car!

Why was ii so bad? There are some pretty poor parts to live in admittedly but then that is true of all the countries I have lived and worked in (more than your 8 by a long way). I'm not being defensive, just intigued by the experiences you had that have promoted such a violent dislike for my country