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"Poles" or "Polish people" - which is better to use?

jon357 67 | 16,836
2 May 2017 #152
Polak is reserved for within the Polish community

Or for anyone speaking Polish.
jon357 67 | 16,836
2 May 2017 #153
That's actually the opposite of the truth. What language get do you think people speak at home here in Poland?
24 May 2017 #154
I do know that the "Jewish" people in Israel now are not actually Jews (hence the "ish" on the end suggesting a similarity), and it makes make perfect sense considering the fact that Rome chased Isreals original Occupants (presumably ancestors of the Igbo tribe and also ancestors of a large % of "African Americans" residing in America today) out during the Roman era and replaced them with these Europeans that we see there today, however I have not heard anything in regards to the "ish" pertaining to Turks Poles Swedes etc, but that could just be for lack of research.
Polish>polak>po l
16 Oct 2017 #155
If someone called me a pole after I told them not to I'd beat them to the point I can drag their body to an actual pole on the side of the street, and I'd say watch your step you might fall on a pole and push them into it. Welcome to Poland the Polish Women and Men are nice. Polaks is less offensive to me. I'm not a thing you can hang lights, lock bike, stop cars with...
Roger5 1 | 1,458
16 Oct 2017 #156
Homonyms and homophones must be very distressing for you generally.
mafketis 24 | 9,124
16 Oct 2017 #157
He must be very confused when people talk about one of their eye's or being referred to as a female sheep.
17 Oct 2017 #158
I prefer say Polish people. Maybe its even not rude but I do not use Poles.
Lyzko 29 | 7,224
20 Oct 2017 #159
In English, "Polish people" sounds absolutely fine. Of course, we can also just as easily (and correctly) say/write "the Poles" or "the Polish", as one expresses the idea of "the Spanish", "the French", etc.
8 Nov 2017 #160
My preference would be "Polishmen" as in Englishmen and Frenchmen.
Lyzko 29 | 7,224
8 Nov 2017 #161
And of course, your "preference" would sound ridiculous in English, save for referring to a group of "Polish men" as opposed to women:-)
pawian 177 | 14,533
9 Jan 2021 #162
Polish people is too long. So, I stopped using it long ago. But I see that it is often used by foreigners.
mafketis 24 | 9,124
9 Jan 2021 #163
This is true across a number of names for nationalities, "Spanish people" seems more common to me now than Spaniards (which sounds a bit old-fashioned) same with lots of others Italians is still pretty common but personally I can't imagine saying "Frenchmen" with a straight face.... French people or the French....
pawian 177 | 14,533
9 Jan 2021 #164
than Spaniards (which sounds a bit old-fashioned)

And politically incorrect, possibly? You know, Spaniards brutally colonised vast areas in Americas etc.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,839
10 Jan 2021 #165
Yeh words like 'Spaniard' or ' Frenchman' are kind of obsolete.

I had to get rid of a Spanish person off my fb cos all he posted was stuff about the evils of British Empire and how stupid and undereducated Brits are.

I was like 'mate worry about your own savage colonial history and it's aftermath before crying about ours'. Lol.

The kind of person who think Britain still having Gib is 'wrong ' unarguably but see Ceuta and Mellila as ....just fine.
Lyzko 29 | 7,224
28 Jan 2021 #166
"Spaniard"and "Frenchman" are both perfectly acceptable! It's simply that we've al become so mired in the stranglehold of political (in-)incorrectness that what's right now looks wrong and the reverse.
jon357 67 | 16,836
28 Jan 2021 #167
Spaniard"and "Frenchman" are both perfectly acceptable!

When talking about specific men, yes. If falling out of use now.

Poles, Finns, Danes, Greeks, Kurds, Turks etc are still used.
mafketis 24 | 9,124
28 Jan 2021 #168
Spaniard"and "Frenchman" are both perfectly acceptable!

But old fashioned.... my tendency is to mostly use "national adjective" and people in the plural "French people" "Spanish people"

In the singular I mostly just use adjectives "He's French" "She's Spanish"

I would mostly rephrase sentences to avoid Frenchman or Spaniard the same way I'd rephrase to avoid using 'one' (cause it's hard to use that without sounding like a pedantic twit - I don't mind sounding like a pedantic twit when occasion demands, but I don't like to make a habit of it...)
Lyzko 29 | 7,224
28 Jan 2021 #169
Chalk it up to personal taste, I suppose

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