Game - guess Polish idioms/sayings in direct English translation - part 2

in direct English translation

I would say that this definition is similar but the details are often unpleasant rather than just hidden.


I think this one is closest in meaning.


To deceive someone and put them in a very difficult situation?

You really don't understand the idea behind the thread.... "to make someone gray" is an English translation of a Polish idiom.


Yes! You are right... zrobić kogoś na szaro is the Polish original....

Nie będą się z tobą patyczkować - What does it mean?

Et tu, Aliene?

the idea is to _translate_ idioms and see if people can guess the meaning....

Bangs head against keyboard.....

"Patyczkować" cannot be translated directly

That's the challenge!

Some possible ways...

I'm not gonna stick around with you.

I'm not gonna handle you with sticks.

Surely others exist....

Bargepoles.

To be clear, Google's translation is incorrect.

They'll throw the book at you..

that's what they'll do jak się nie będą patyczkować. 🙂

They're not gonna stick you around!

Has this been solved or not because I'm slightly confused....


So is it not to do with sticks/sticking at all in any context?

I was doing a lot of reading and found 'they'll throw the book at you', but I don't think that's right.

More like, they're not gonna go easy on you or 'they're not gonna treat you with kit gloves'

The origins seem to be a case of semantic transfer.... to not treat someone like a fragile object/stick... I don't get that part.

Sort of fits with the meaning I found.


To be honest, the more I read the more confused I got with this one.

Yes, that's the meaning of the phrase "nie patyczkować."
Alternatively, in certain situations you can use "don't be shy."
Ok, next task - "Pierdolenie kotka za pomocą młotka" what does it mean?
Ps.
Forget Google.

Dude... not even trying to translate it takes the fun out of it....

How hard is 'fvkking a cat with a hammer' be?

If the literal translation doesn't make sense.... that's the whole point!

Probably something between using a sledgehammer to crack a nut and breaking a butterfly on a wheel.

No.

Not sure why there appears to be so much confusion with the thread title........


Waffling on and on about nothing in particular with very little information conveyed?

In that case, maybe flogging a dead horse or taking coals to Newcastle.

A task done that is largely pointless. Like the two above or pounding sand and grinding water.

And milking a bull.

There's also pìssing in the wind however that's subtly different.

Yes, this is a pointless discussion or action that does not bring results.

You're describing 95% of this forum....

Two easy ones....

A joke with a beard.

And

To i piątak. (this one is a bit loose - it's the idea that counts not the exact words...)

A really old joke.

Not sure about the other

That's the whole point of forums. What results would you expect here? lol!
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make face like a sh't cat in the wild.

Yes.

I'm not sure if the other was/is used much in the UK...

If I heard it in a sentence, I'd understand it as "something and nothing".

What about neither a dog nor an otter?

Not really the meaning.... I saw it once translated in subtitles as 'jak cholera' which fit that context but maybe not most others....