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Polish case question (Mężczyzna jest zimno? or Dziewczyna jest zimno?)


Lyzko
18 Apr 2012 #61
Rozumienic, you might have misunderstood my post! While we obviously DO have changes, their not on the structural level any longer with Polish, for instance! Old English, yes, Modern English, no:-)
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,872
18 Apr 2012 #62
Rozumienic, you might have misunderstood my post!

In English, "him" NEVER changes through morphological permutations

I think that sentence is easy enough to understand, not much space for misunderstanding, is there?
Oh and it's 'they're', not 'their'..
have a nice day y'all.
Lyzko
18 Apr 2012 #63
Just a typo, OBVIOUSLY, rozumieniec:-)!!!

Apropos my linguistic "ignorance", you can't deny that English is an 'analytic', whereas Polish or German are 'synthetic' languages; English merely adds words to sentences to determine meaning, the latter change forms through inflection in order to achieve the same goal.
Lyzko
18 Apr 2012 #64
Pardon, I meant to say, the FORMER change forms, i.e. German and Polish, not English.
Sorry!
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
10 Jun 2017 #65
"Kto jest Gerda?"

YOu cna avoid using the instrumental case by adding "to". Kto to jest Gerda? Gerda to Niemka. A bit less formal but completely correct.
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
11 Jun 2017 #66
'analytic',

Another term for languages such as English is positional rather than inflected (few endings). In normal (non-poetic) English the position tells the story, in "Man bites dog", we know who got bitten and who did the biting simply by the positon (subejct, predicate, object). Chinese is also the same. "Wo aye nee" (I love you) - "Nee aye wo" (you love me).

In Polish "Psa ugryzł człowiek" it is the ending of pies -- psa and the lack of an ending on człowiek that tells us who did what
ender 5 | 398
11 Jun 2017 #67
"Psa ugryzł człowiek"

Please stop it. Correct order is: Człowiek ugryzł psa. I remember having discussion about that already. I used to annoy my Polish teacher with that kind of staff and she alway marked it as grammatical mistake. Now I have to say that she was right although still bitter *****.
Lyzko 36 | 8,441
11 Jun 2017 #68
Roundly concur:-) A number of other languages as well, as you mentioned, contain ambiguous word order in which case determines meaning, yet the endings can be read both ways!
ender 5 | 398
11 Jun 2017 #69
Roundly concur

Don't be too smart:

Muszę nauczyć się języka angielskiego

The correct translation is: I must know English(by learning it)
You wrote that: Dziewczyna jest piekną. is incorrect and that is true but: Dziewczyna piękną jest. Is actually correct!!! If something is true it should be true every way. Just take it and accept that correct order and that you CAN change the order to accent/highlight first word.
Lyzko 36 | 8,441
12 Jun 2017 #70
@(smoke)ender,

In fact German has a similar case/word order situation much as Polish:-)


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