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Posts by Mister H  

Joined: 4 Jan 2008 / Male ♂
Last Post: 2 Nov 2019
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From: Hove, UK
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Mister H   
1 May 2010
UK, Ireland / Let's discuss Polish and British, only constructive (though we will digress) [60]

There is great potential for parternship, if only the arrogance and stereotypes are dropped. Breaking the linguistic barrier helps too as it allows you to tap into their way of thinking. The problem is that idiots will always ruin things and turn it into a competition but common ground is there to be found.

Unless the Government take action to limit the numbers and calm things down a bit, I don't see things changing.

For as long as the Polish (or anyone from another country for that matter) can come here for purely economic reasons and end up better off from "The System" than many British people, it will never work.

I'm a great fan of fair play and more British people are too. Uncontrolled and unlimited immigration is not fair.

I hope that once the cuts start and the benefit money starts to run out and people have to come to the UK for more reasons than just money, things might start to change.

The only way immigration will work is for there to be less immigrants (and I'm not saying no immigrants at all) and for there to be less of a strain on local resources. The longer that the British are made to feel almost in competition with the Polish and others, the longer we will be poles apart (if you pardon the pun).
Mister H   
30 Apr 2010
UK, Ireland / Help for Poles based in Uk who want to go bankrupt [18]

What is your experience of Polish people that have run up huge debts whilst living here ?

I work in collections for a UK bank the numbers of Eastern Europeans we are chasing for money is rising and rising fast

If a foreign national goes bankrupt they should be kicked out of the UK on their way back from the bankruptcy hearing.
Mister H   
18 Mar 2010
UK, Ireland / No job unless you're Polish [201]

If someone only contributes a minimal amount for a year but then takes out of the system much more and for much longer than they put in, you don't need to be an economist to work that one out.

Indeed you don't. I think that it should be five years of tax and NI before anyone can start claiming state benefits and that those that are too young to have paid in should have the record of their parents taken into consideration.

From what I understand, the current qualification for benefits is 12 months of tax and NI for foreign nationals from EU countries and that this is going to be reduced to just 3 months !!!!

The whole business of benefits is a farce from beginning to end. There just isn't the money to pay for it anymore. Hopefully the Tories will get in and end some of this current pantomime.

We even get approached by agencies offering us 'incentives' to take on migrants give them 13 weeks work in exchange for 'payments' and to make the (various) figures look good, I have a business to run and I'm not getting involved in these stupid games, I only hire qualified/experienced staff and I'm not being used as a guinea pig in some social diversity exercise.

Rant over.

I'm glad that you don't get taken in by such nonsense. It should be the best person for the job at the end of the day and it makes a nice change to hear of a boss with a 100% British workforce.

I don't care about a person's ethnic background, but I think that someone that is British through birth (of whatever skin colour) should have a better chance of a job than someone that is fresh off the boat.

As for the guys in the Asda pig factory, well they're probably being screwed over in some way or other, but it doesn't make it right that the job advert "accidentally" asked for Polish people only.

They may conduct the health and safety training in Polish, but if they ever needed to ring 999 it wouldn't be answered in Polish would it ??!!

This is just pandering to the notion that it is somehow ok not to learn the language of the country that you are living in. Learn the language or bugger off !! It's a simple as that !!

And yes the same goes for English people living in Spain that should speak Spanish to a decent level before anyone starts........
Mister H   
1 Mar 2010
UK, Ireland / Marrying Polish Woman in UK/London [100]

Taking a break in India? I hope she took all her shots.

That's a rather daft and unhelpful comment. Of course she will get the required injections, malaria tablets etc. You make it sound like it is something sinister.

I've been to India and had all that shots as you call them. Visiting India is a real experience and one I hope to repeat.
Mister H   
1 Mar 2010
UK, Ireland / Marrying Polish Woman in UK/London [100]

I am a little disturbed that almost all the responses here are with a preconceived notion, 'he is doing it for the passport'!
why not just 'he is marrying a polish girl' end of topic.

Unfortunately that's what many foreigners that get married and want to live in the UK do it for. It may seem unfair to assume you're doing the same, but if you have a search through this forum and see how many similar threads there are on this subject and you will get an idea how many times people have asked your questions before.

If you want to marry your Polish girlfriend, then great !! I'm very happy for you (seriously) however you have to understand that this country passed full to capacity when it comes to immigrants and the British have had enough ...... and I'm not a racist !!
Mister H   
28 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Marrying Polish Woman in UK/London [100]

& she could move here, but she freaks out at the mention of living in London, cos she thinks only 'blue collar polish workers' move to London.

You came back to check the responses, so I misjudged you on that one and I apologise.

As for you "marrying for a passport", well I guess the jury is still out on that one. As someone else said, if you're not marrying for a passport then why not either reside in Poland or India after you get married ?
Mister H   
28 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Time for the Poles from the UK to go home [437]

What a dork!

Have I woken up in the '80s ? Who says "dork" these days ?

Sadly there is a lot of anti-Polish feeling. It's jealousy.

Jealous of what exactly ?

(And I'm not on the dole by the way. Like you, I prefer to paddle my own canoe.)
Mister H   
28 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Time for the Poles from the UK to go home [437]

However, his declaration of 95% is not backed up with evidence and as we all know, these stats come from on the street polls of less than 1000 people usually.

I've yet to hear of any research that has been carried out that has given anything resembling real information.

The good thing about my social circles is that we tend to be able to talk about any subject, including immigration. I have Scottish friends who'll bring up the problems with immigration and Polish friends who will agree with them. We also manage to have these conversation without descending into argument.

Like you I've many discussions about immigration with all kinds of people as it's the only way to find out what everyone thinks. Whether it be British, British asian, British black or EU immigrant, most say the same: Too many people allowed in and not enough control.

You're right that everything can be changed to suit a diffent person's agenda and we'll see more of that the closer to the election we get.
Mister H   
28 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Time for the Poles from the UK to go home [437]

I don't agree with Winston's choice of words, but I would think that more would agree with him than you might think.

Have a conversation with pretty much anyone at the vending machine in any office in the UK and ask them what they think about immigration and most tend to reply that it's ok if controlled. Most agree that it is not controlled and that they've had enough.
Mister H   
27 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Marrying Polish Woman in UK/London [100]

The level of stupidity and racism from some on this forum is just mind boggling.. When I read/hear this, I am hardly surprised that some muslims extremists are putting bombs..

I think it could just be that he is getting a bit sick and tired of people registering with this forum purely to start threads that they know will wind people up.

It's not as though they come back to finish what they start is it ?

I'm bored of those type of people too.

PS - There is NEVER an excuse or a reason good enough to justify acts of terrorism.
Mister H   
27 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Marrying Polish Woman in UK/London [100]

@incognito007
Well done, you've managed to get the three things guaranteed to annoy people in your first post ie. marriage (possibly for convenience), gaining entry into the UK and benefits.

I strongly think that new members to the forum should have their first few posts moderated before they are available for others to read.

I suspect that you won't be back to read any responses.

Dewsbury - 30 years ago, when I was a lad it was a declining northern, post-industrial town with a "manageable" Pakistani population

Sounds a little bit like Crawley (a town in Sussex near Gatwick Airport) which has always had a high asian population, but in the early/mid 1990s those I knew of were all UK born. When I visit Crawley now, it seems to have changed into am immigrant ghetto where you never seem to hear English being spoken anymore or certainly not as much as you would expect in what is, after all, an English town.

I believe that three of the 7/7 bombers came from Crawley.
Mister H   
22 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / "Strange " English language.. [33]

Is it proper English or just a slang, cockney ?

The way you have written what you're hearing does not make sense to me, so I can't hear it in my head enough to comment, however, the word "mate" being said as "mait" and so on is the norm - it's how I say it and I grew up in the leafy Home Counties !

What I would say though is that the London/cockney accent is changing into something that isn't good.

I'm not sure what the influence is for it, but it seems to be changing into something more resembling street slang rather than an actual language or accent.

I rang my bank the other day and the guy at the other end (who sounded no more than about 20) was inarticulate and that's the only way to describe it. He spoke with that "Am I bovvered" type accent. How these people get jobs is beyond me, I wouldn't have given him a job.

The problem is these days is that it is seen as ok to have low / no standards in almost everything and anyone wishing to change or correct them is seen as the one with the problem.
Mister H   
15 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Brits to protest against foreigners in the workforce, including Poles. [289]

"below average education" = simple.

Now you're just being nasty for the sake of it.

Just because they may not have been to university or had the same education or chances in life you might have had does not mean people like you can write them off as "simple".

Well, you have to question the wisdom of having so many children - and virtually assuring that they would need some degree of benefits in order to survive. I think it's irresponsible as hell for someone to have so many children if they aren't in stable employment.

Also, you have to move to where the employment is, it's that simple.

Without knowing more about their situation, it would be unfair to comment, but generally speaking it does not make much sense to have such a big family when money is tight and work not secure.

It's not as simple as moving where the work is. It might be for you, but it isn't for everyone.
Mister H   
15 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / driving instruction in Polish (Gloucestershire area) [14]

With the amount of cars in such a small space this says to me that Brits must be fantastic drivers.

You've clearly not driven up Handcross Hill on the A23 in the rush hour.

I take it your not driven in Poland?

No, not sor far.
Mister H   
14 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Brits to protest against foreigners in the workforce, including Poles. [289]

Of course. Why not?

I'm sorry, but I have little to no sympathy for people who use being simple as an excuse - plenty of thick kurwa boys managed to get by in the UK just fine.

She doesn't sound simple and neither does her husband.

The fact that they haven't even considered relocating means that I have no sympathy - plenty of people were forced to emigrate from Scotland across the ocean to find a new life - so sympathy is somewhat lacking there.

You don't know she hasn't, but with children at school and so on, it's not as simple as upping sticks and moving is it ?

How many people who are complaining now about immigrants voted Labour in 1997 and 2001, I wonder?

I'll admit to voting Labour in 1997, 2001 and even in 2005. As for "complaining" about immigrants as you put it, I'm complaining about mass immigration rather than immigration. There is a difference.
Mister H   
14 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / driving instruction in Polish (Gloucestershire area) [14]

Yes, in the UK.

I'm British and have been driving since 1991 and have seen things gradually get worse and worse.

If we're better than most of Europe then their roads must be death-traps.

Our roads are largley filled with people that do not know what they're doing because once you pass your test, that's it ! You don't ever get re-tested nor do you even have to have a regular eye test to keep your licence valid.
Mister H   
14 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / driving instruction in Polish (Gloucestershire area) [14]

It's just an observation, I'm not trying to have a pop at you. Learning to drive is hard enough and the standards of driving over here are not great. The last thing a learner needs is a language barrier and having a Polish instructor, while it might seem the best solution, it may not encourage her to improve her English.
Mister H   
14 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Brits to protest against foreigners in the workforce, including Poles. [289]

I'm sorry, but no-one has the right to work. If you're good enough, you'll get hired - if you're not good enough or inflexible, then you won't. It's pretty damn simple.

I'm wondering if you have read post 206 and would say that to that person's face ?
Mister H   
14 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / WHAT IS SO SPECIAL LIVING IN U.K [90]

Well, if your a teacher you get time off if it snows (or the weather man said it COULD snow)

If you are a teacher, I hope you know how bad your grammar is.
Mister H   
14 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Brits to protest against foreigners in the workforce, including Poles. [289]

whatnext

Hi

Your post was very well thought out and it's obvious that you've taken a lot of time over it.

Thanks for doing that.

You post proves the point that just because you've got the mucky end of the immigration stick it doesn't mean that you're using that to peddle racist nonsense.

You and your husband are obviously very proud people and are great examples of what most British people are like. I think you should print your post and send it to your local MP and to Gordon Brown. Ok, it will not change anything in the short-term but the more people that put pen to paper and refuse to be ignored the better.

Best wishes.
Mister H   
7 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Recently beaten up in England by 3 Polish guys [93]

My girlfriend is Polish, so i am not anti polish, infact, quite the opposite.

You were viciously assaulted and you should still report it.

For all you know the police could have a whole file on these guys and extra evidence could really help. Either way a crime has been committed and you should report it.

I don't hold much faith in the police either, but it's all we have at our disposal in such situations.
Mister H   
7 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Brits to protest against foreigners in the workforce, including Poles. [289]

I would agree with you on that one. I really do hope that UKIP manage to secure a decent foothold after the next election and become a real voice in British politics.

I would never want to see success for the BNP and any they do have is mainly down to the main parties dillydallying around the important subjects.

I hope that the protest was a success (don't recall seeing it anywhere in the news though) and I fully support their agenda.
Mister H   
7 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Polish woman in the UK gives birth then leaves the baby in hospital [28]

I'm wondering if the woman lacked the financial means required, in order to pay the hospital for the delivery of her child

She wouldn't have been charged and that's probably why she was here in the first place ie. to use the free services of the NHS to give birth.
Mister H   
7 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Brits to protest against foreigners in the workforce, including Poles. [289]

I'd be surprised if any of them have ever seen, let alone read a proper newspaper in their life.

What judgemental nonsense !

Why do people always have to bring the BNP into these kind of debates ? It's NOT racist to complain about uncontrolled immigration !

The BNP tried to get in on the act at the protests at the Lindsey oil refinery and were told to get lost. This is not about race.

Your comments are offensive and you're just playing to the gallery.

I'm sorry, but no-one has the right to work. If you're good enough, you'll get hired - if you're not good enough or inflexible, then you won't. It's pretty damn simple.

Economics and whether or not employers are just using cheaper foreign labour to avoid paying a liveable wage comes into it too.
Mister H   
17 Jan 2010
UK, Ireland / WHAT IS SO SPECIAL LIVING IN U.K [90]

I think a lot of people stood up and took notice when things got so bad that the BNP started getting enough support to get 2 MEPs.

I don't hear anything substantial that makes me feel that anyone has taken any notice of the rise in BNP support. It's just rhetoric.

They've tinkered a bit with non-EU immigration, but nothing as far as I can tell has changed about immigration within the EU.

Hopefully, that is the wakeup call that mainstream parties need to tighten up border controls and immigration policy. Still - it's too late really.

Too little too late, but I don't see this tightening up that you mention.

It's quite conceiveable that in my lifetime the UK will become an Islamic state - simply by reproduction.

I don't see that myself. I agree that Muslims seem to reproduce like rabbits (which seems a trait popular with many immigrants) so they may just about be the majority of the population in a few northern sh!t holes, but they're a long way off from outnumbering the British in general.

For Poles, the British Isles are the only English-speaking countries which welcome them with open arms.

No Green Card lotteries (assuming Poles are eligible this year), no immigration points system, no threat of deportation or detention centres, no demeaning questions at the airport.

That's unique, therefore special.

The Polish might find it "unique and special", but many British people do not see it that way.