Love / Do Polish Women age well? [153]


This thread never seemed to approach 'women hating' at all. Now you seem to be revising the theme of the topic. Do you consider judging a women's appearance as 'misogynistic'? It's only allowble to say, 'she is beautiful', but not "she is not attractive at all'? Provide some facts on your analysis? Again, look at the topic, and try to answer the question which was posed, instead of playing Mr. Neutral Diplomat.

There seem to be other forums which focus on the 'appearance' of individials. Take a good look at the "Polish Men versus German Men" thread. It asks 'who is hotter', which is quite similar to how a person ages. It's an 'appearance' question, and not an issue on personality traits or who has a good heart.

Love / Do Polish Women age well? [153]


As RebelOReilly mentioned previously, our comments are only simple general observations and not conclusive statements. Naturally, an individual's personality and heart count more than anything, but that's not what the topic was about. The topic questioned, "Do Polish Women Age Well?". I provided my opinion based on the population of a small village where I live. The women here can hardly be representative of the entire country of Poland, at least I think it can't be. When answering the question which the topic puts forward, one looks at the physical aspect of the Polish women, if she ages well beyond 40 years old. My interpretation of the question of this topic was more about physical appearance, and not the good nature, personality, or heart of the person in question.

Patrycja19, there is another topic on Polish Forums entitled "Polish men vs german men:Who is hotter?". From what I have seen of the postings which have taken place there, it is full of 'pin ups' of the physical appearance of men, and comments of men how they look on the outide. I haven't seen any woman on that forum coming to the defense of a man's personality or heart there, as has been done on this forum. Why? So it seems, it's ok to lust after and judge a man's physical appearance, but not talk about a women's appearance? Food for thought. :-)

Love / Do Polish Women age well? [153]

My friends and I know the ages of the women in this village very well. What do you expect when the population is under 2,000 people? :-)

An excellent example of 'aging well' is the French actress, Juliette Binoche, born in March, 1964 (44 years old). A note of interest is she is half French / Polish descent.

Love / Do Polish Women age well? [153]


I'll add my observations as well from living in a village in Poland for over 6 years. I also conclude that Polish women 40 years or older do not age well at all. Most here are terribly overweight with poor facial complexions. Many do smoke, so that is a "why" factor to consider. Should I mention some unpleasing hair styles and hair color?

That said, the younger Polish women seem prettier than most of their European counterparts, like models from heaven. Again, many of them do smoke. That's too bad.

I often think, what eradicates their former beauty so quickly? Smoking, bad diet, lack of excercise, drinking, hormones, stress, other?

Hopefully, an honest opinion doesn't offend anyone.

Real Estate / House prices in Poland to drop more or rise again? [228]


This is exactly what I have stressed in my previous post..the property "type". One must identify within the Polish real estate market, which category of property is a good invesment, rather than grouping all properties into one basket.

- Flats
- Houses
- Industrial Structures
- Land (agricultural / arable)
- Land (industrial)
- Land (Residential)
- Land (Forest)
- Farms (small or large)

The key is, flats can be purchased and sold by anyone. So, the prices you see today are well reflected. However, other types of property still haven't had 'true' supply and demand factored into it. Hence, an objective market price still has not been determined between buyers and sellers. This should prove to be an interesting observation when 2012 comes along. Even more important, by that time, most world economies will have partially or fully recovered from recession. Timing is essential in this regard.

Real Estate / House prices in Poland to drop more or rise again? [228]

All markets, including real estate, go through a period of fluctuations, with a peak and trough (bottom). The property markets in the UK, Ireland, USA, are bottoming out and it is now more or less a buyers market. For many with cash, this presents a good time to buy. In Poland, the property market seems to be holding it's own at the moment, without any serious increases or decreases in real estate prices in the aggregate, or course, there may be regional differences. There are various segments of property when speaking of real estate: flats, private detached homes, farms, arable land, zoned building land. I think the best investments in property right now are in private homes, land / forest, and farms small or large. Flats will always be available and prices seem to have stablilized. Keep in mind, 'anyone' can purchase a flat in Poland, locals and foreigners alike without restrictions.

Land (arable or building), forests, and farms in excess of 1 hectare still require permission from the Polish interior of Ministry, and foreigners (non Polish citizens) cannot just come to Poland and buy such a property. The true value of these properties will come into play around the year 2012, when permissions to buy will be revoked and anyone will be able to invest in these. True supply and demand will then take place and true fair market value prices will be established. These types of properties are good to invest in before 2012.

News / Dalai Lama says: "POLAND HAS RETAINED ITS SPIRIT" [77]

One of the primary reasons Poland is on the map of Europe today is due to the spirit of its people. It certainly wasn't due to the generosity of map makers or the countries surrounding Poland. :-)

Life / Reasons for moving to Poland [291]

"Reason for moving to Poland":

I came here to Poland to escape the boredom and the declining moral and cultural values of the USA. :) It's great here, especially the village life.

Travel / Hometown / Vacation pictures Poland [201]

Old Wagon

Law / How do you set up a company in Poland? [46]

Please go to the 2 links listed below. They contain excellent information from "PAIZ" in English.

1) Polish Business Law
2) Which Business form to Choose?

Good luck!

History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]


Hehe! :-) Well hey...I am an American / Polish citizen of 67% Polish and 33% Ukrainian ethnic roots, born in the USA, whose father (Polish and Ukrainian roots) is Greek Catholic and mother (100% Polish) Roman Catholic. I usually say I'm a Catholic for all intensive purposes, one and the same with slightly different traditions, since both adhere to the Vatican, currently living in Poland, and a very proud Pole, but my heart and soul also love "Kresy" (former Eastern Polish lands) and the rich history of Poland. Is this a sufficient enough definition of one's nationality? Places like Tarnopol, Lwów, Rohatyn, Brzeżany, Skałat, Krzemieniec, Tręmbowla are simply an integral and amazing piece of Polish history and culture. Talking about a mix of King Sobieski and Taras Bulba!!!

Cheers,

Scorpio

History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

More confusion on whether an individual of Jewish extraction born outside of Israel is "Jewish", "country_abc Jewish", "Jewish country_abc", "Israeli" ... from the Jerusalem Post. This is pertinent to the current discussion because many (especially Harry) question which term is correct: "Polish Jew", "Jewish Pole", "Jew" ? Read on:

- "A 23-year-old heavily intoxicated Arab man from Kuwait who claimed he had a bomb briefly held three Jewish teenagers captive in their Polish hotel room on Monday, police and officials said."

- "The three Brazilian teens, who were in Poland for the annual March of the Living Holocaust commemoration ceremonies, were accosted by the drunken man in their room at central Warsaw's Holiday Inn as they were getting ready to leave the hotel, said Aharon Tamir, deputy chairman of the March of the Living."

- "Although no Israelis were involved in the incident, security was briefly heightened for a separate group of 450 Israeli high school students currently in Poland, an Education Ministry spokeswoman said."

- "Around 10,000 people from around the world, mostly Jewish, took part in the 20th March of the Living on Thursday, an annual event at the former Nazi death camp of Auschwitz-Birkenau that honors the memory of the six million Jews who perished in the Holocaust."

From the above (all in on article), we gather the following:

(1) "three Jewish teenagers", (2) "three Brazilian teens", (3) "no Israelis were involved" [Israeli Jews, Jewish Israeli's ?], (4) "mostly Jewish".

It seems from the above, that the Jersualem Post doesn't know the exact nationality of those 3 teens as well. Harry, any answers?

History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

Here is an excellent example on just how confused even "Israel National News" is when it comes to defining an individual who has Jewish roots and lives, was born, and raised outside of Israel in another country (Brazil). The article entitled, "Arab Terror Attack on Brazilian Jewish Youth in Warsaw" israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/126073, states:

- "At least one Arab terrorist entered a sixth-floor hotel room and briefly took three Jewish youths hostage in central Warsaw on Monday."

- "The three teens who arrived last week from Brazil to participate in the March of the Living were unharmed."

First, it appears the three youths are native citizens of Brazil, born and raised there, speaking the native language, Portuguese. So, they were born as "Brazilians", correct? So, what nationality are they? Let's further diagnose what the Israel National News says.

Well, according to the INN, notice the author Hana Levi Julian states (1) "Brazilian Jewish Youth", (2)"Jewish youths", (3) "...who arrived last week from Brazil", all in one article. Well, if they were born and raised in Brazil, are they "Brazilan", "Brazilian Jews", "Jewish Brazilians", or "Jewish" youths? As you can see, it is not that gentiles have difficulty categorizing citizens of Jewish extraction in the country they both live in together, but the Jewish media, government, Jewish organizations, and Jews themselves are confused as to how to categorize someone with Jewish roots not born, rasised, or living in Israel - "Jewish" or a "native" citizen of the country they reside in.

Until Israel, the chief Rabbi, or a major Jewish body decides exactly whether (1) Jewish is a religion, nationality, or both, and (2) Whether someone of Jewish extraction living in a country outside if Israel is a "Jew" or 'national' from that given country, nobody will know exactly how to define this particular nationality/religion and there will only be further confusion and finger pointing.

History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]


All individiuals in any given nation have a national "citizenship", "ethnicity", and "religion". In a unique case, most individuals who follow the Jewish faith consider their religion an ethnic group as well.

In the USA for examle, all legal residents are considered "Americans". Then, for each American, it can be broken down into: Italian American, Polish American, Jewish American, etc. The same goes for Poland. All legal resident of Poland are "Polish". Then you have German Pole, Catholic Pole, Jewish Pole, Lutheran Pole, Musliim Pole. Not complicated at all.

That said, Solomon Morel is a Jewish Pole or Pole of Jewish descent. I have a friend whose father is a Russian of the Russian Orthodox religion, and his mother is a Catholic Pole. He lives in Bialystok. When asked his nationality, he states: I am a Catholic-Orthodox-Russian-Pole. Konstanty Gerbert and Adam Michnik for example are Jewish Poles. Where I live, the region has numerous Gypsy Poles. And what about the recent Brazilian football player that got Polish citizenship? Well, he is simply a Brazilian Pole, or a Pole of Brazilian descent. Of course, he might also state it like this: "I am a Polish citizen of Brazilian descent", if he wishes to reflect the fact that his roots aren't ethnically from the region where Poland is geographically located. To break it down further, Polish belongs to the Slavic category, just like Germans belong to the Germanic and Swedes to the Nordic. Simple, right?

A "Jewish Pole" or "Polish Jew", IMO, the same, meaning: a Polish citizen with Jewish roots, or a person with mixed ethnic Polish slavic and Jewish roots.

History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]


plk123, please click on the link provided in the first post on this thread. The extract "Poland's concentration camp" is there in the very beginning of the article:

"Among hundreds of Israeli schoolchildren visiting Poland’s concentration camp were 24 students from Sderot. ‘With all due respect to our problems at home, this visit puts things in perspective,’ one student says."


Poles never operated any of the German concentration camps in occupied Poland. You are revising historical fact and truth. Do yourself a favor and learn history. An official statement from the "American Jewish Committee":

piasa.org/news14.html

History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]


This is absolutely incorrect. Just last year, the Polish government demanded that the media stop using the term "Polish Concentration Camps' and even submitted to UNESCO the official name to be used, "Former Nazi German Concentration Camp Auschwitz-Birkenau, near Oświęcim". This is the official name, and yet, the media still refers to it as either the "Nazi Concentration Camp", or "Poland's Concentration Camps", or "Polish Concentration Camps".

Poland, nor the Poles never wanted to or did claim fame to any of those camps. Your statement is way off track. They are camps built and run by the Germans, in German occupied Poland.

Travel / Hometown / Vacation pictures Poland [201]

My farm in the Carpathian foothills near Zakliczyn n/Dunajec, 32 km south of Tarnow.