KasiaP
6 Sep 2022
Genealogy / Manko, Federowicz, Baszczek, Zatwarnicka. Family history mystery. [36]
@ocalfe
Hello,
My post above was refering to only one small village in Poland called Polana.
Zatwarnicki surname exist in historical records of that place but without aditional information (where your family relocated from) it would be hard to do any reaserch as Zatwarnicki is quiet popular surname in Poland.
You are right, Ignat probably refer to Ignacy (pobably was prenouced Ignatz in english and over time changed to Ignat. Thats my gues). There is no such name in polish language as Ignat the Ignacy is only correct version.
There is lots of information available online. You can sign in on the site heritage.statueofliberty.org/passenger-result to look for Zatwarnicki (for men) and Zatwarnicka (for women) results.
Sample:
Name: Arrived: Last Place of Residence / Birth Place: Ship Name: Action:
Jozefa Zatwarnicka 1912 Polane, Galicia Prinz Friedrich Wilhelm Note: there are documents available like photo of
the ship and manifest with passanger list.
Some of the passanger lists are very speciffic and can give you a lot of information other just basic info..
The sample above is a women (in my opinion from Polana, Galicia (current name would be Polana, Poland). Her name was speled with no use of polish alphabet as it should be Józefa Zatwarnicka. When looking for names of the village or city in Poland you may try instead of Poland also Austria, Galicia/Galicja or whatever the name was (check the date that you are interested in and check the borders of Poland in that time frame, than start searching). There is period in Polish history when Poland didn't exist on the map... Long interested and complicated history. I believe that you already know that.
You can also search for history of the ship listed in link above as some are very interesting.
Zatwarnica village from you post is not far from Polana village. Zatwarnica is a village in the administrative district of Gmina Lutowiska, within Bieszczady County, Subcarpathian Voivodeship, in south-eastern Poland, close to the border with Ukraine. The fact that there were people in Polana with Zatwarnicki surname may be a connection.
Unfortunatelly I can not attach any of the photos as they are too big files for this program. If you give me your email contact I could send you some info about Polana which would be usefull to you. I have a old photo with most of the people from the village, Zatwarnicki surname is listed on the photo several times.
I can send you a map with highlighted areas of the Zatwarnicki residence in Polana before the people were push to live theirs homes...
History of all villages from that part of the Poland are very sad. I have few books abou them and can't finish reading as they are so graphic. Those people went through very hard time...
But there are also beautiful stories to tell from the times when people were living there in peace for the generations....
Usefull places to look for info are the church books (I can send you some from Polana with Zatwarnicki surname. There are also archives called PUR: stg-wroclaw.pl/start-pur where you can request documentation about people who was push to move out from theirs homes and transport to various places.
There is site: geneteka.genealodzy.pl/index.php?op=gt&lang=pol&bdm=B&w=09pk&rid=B&search_lastname=Zatwarnicki&search_name=&search_lastname2=&search_name2=&from_date=&to_date=&rpp1=&ordertable=
you have there tabs to chose from like birthdays and deaths etc. You can open the scans (yellow button on the side).
I couldn't find the Ignat/Ignacy on the list looking quickly but thats not a problem as you may find that those scans are not yet available online. some of the scans are from 1700 and 1800 (very old). In Poland the files can be protected by the data protection policy and some of the files are not yet relised. Often files 100+ years old are available online and even then some are missing as there is no one system/weebsite which is controling the release of those documents... sometimes the only hope is visit at the local church or the archives in person (thats only for the familly members).
Here is a brief history of the region: lutowiska.pl/history
I hope that was helpful.
Regards
Kat
@ocalfe
Hello,
My post above was refering to only one small village in Poland called Polana.
Zatwarnicki surname exist in historical records of that place but without aditional information (where your family relocated from) it would be hard to do any reaserch as Zatwarnicki is quiet popular surname in Poland.
You are right, Ignat probably refer to Ignacy (pobably was prenouced Ignatz in english and over time changed to Ignat. Thats my gues). There is no such name in polish language as Ignat the Ignacy is only correct version.
There is lots of information available online. You can sign in on the site heritage.statueofliberty.org/passenger-result to look for Zatwarnicki (for men) and Zatwarnicka (for women) results.
Sample:
Name: Arrived: Last Place of Residence / Birth Place: Ship Name: Action:
Jozefa Zatwarnicka 1912 Polane, Galicia Prinz Friedrich Wilhelm Note: there are documents available like photo of
the ship and manifest with passanger list.
Some of the passanger lists are very speciffic and can give you a lot of information other just basic info..
The sample above is a women (in my opinion from Polana, Galicia (current name would be Polana, Poland). Her name was speled with no use of polish alphabet as it should be Józefa Zatwarnicka. When looking for names of the village or city in Poland you may try instead of Poland also Austria, Galicia/Galicja or whatever the name was (check the date that you are interested in and check the borders of Poland in that time frame, than start searching). There is period in Polish history when Poland didn't exist on the map... Long interested and complicated history. I believe that you already know that.
You can also search for history of the ship listed in link above as some are very interesting.
Zatwarnica village from you post is not far from Polana village. Zatwarnica is a village in the administrative district of Gmina Lutowiska, within Bieszczady County, Subcarpathian Voivodeship, in south-eastern Poland, close to the border with Ukraine. The fact that there were people in Polana with Zatwarnicki surname may be a connection.
Unfortunatelly I can not attach any of the photos as they are too big files for this program. If you give me your email contact I could send you some info about Polana which would be usefull to you. I have a old photo with most of the people from the village, Zatwarnicki surname is listed on the photo several times.
I can send you a map with highlighted areas of the Zatwarnicki residence in Polana before the people were push to live theirs homes...
History of all villages from that part of the Poland are very sad. I have few books abou them and can't finish reading as they are so graphic. Those people went through very hard time...
But there are also beautiful stories to tell from the times when people were living there in peace for the generations....
Usefull places to look for info are the church books (I can send you some from Polana with Zatwarnicki surname. There are also archives called PUR: stg-wroclaw.pl/start-pur where you can request documentation about people who was push to move out from theirs homes and transport to various places.
There is site: geneteka.genealodzy.pl/index.php?op=gt&lang=pol&bdm=B&w=09pk&rid=B&search_lastname=Zatwarnicki&search_name=&search_lastname2=&search_name2=&from_date=&to_date=&rpp1=&ordertable=
you have there tabs to chose from like birthdays and deaths etc. You can open the scans (yellow button on the side).
I couldn't find the Ignat/Ignacy on the list looking quickly but thats not a problem as you may find that those scans are not yet available online. some of the scans are from 1700 and 1800 (very old). In Poland the files can be protected by the data protection policy and some of the files are not yet relised. Often files 100+ years old are available online and even then some are missing as there is no one system/weebsite which is controling the release of those documents... sometimes the only hope is visit at the local church or the archives in person (thats only for the familly members).
Here is a brief history of the region: lutowiska.pl/history
I hope that was helpful.
Regards
Kat