Off-Topic / What's your connection with Poland? Penpals. [512]


Bollox.

If it was the case, Poles would be the wisest nation in the known universe. All the invasions, partitions, uprising, emigration waves, genocides, border shifts and so on; first Sanacja and their idiotic generals (Zwarci! Silni! Gotowi!), then the nazis, then the commies... and what do we get for all that in 2023? Kaczyński on one side and Tusk on the other.

Wisdom gained by pain my arse. :-/

But I forgive you your naivety because you're young like chives in spring. *rolls eyes*

Off-Topic / Things People Say in Ireland - Even though Novichok thinks they can't. [66]


Then I have no more time for you.

History / Future of Kaliningrad Oblast - is it possible to annex by Poland or will it become an independent country? [137]


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Off-Topic / Terms of Russian Surrender [116]

@Novichok

NATO, NATO, NATO, USA, USA, USA... blah blah blah... *facepalm*

Rich, for crying out loud, surely such an intelligent guy like you must understand that it's not Americans but the British who are mostly behind the support for escalating the conflict. Americans are more concentrated on China (look at the American support that Taiwan gets/will get compared to Ukraine). Sure, the USA invested a lot in Ukraine for the purpose of weakening Russia but their main enemy remains China.

Why do you think Boris Johnson once travelled to Kiev, if not for making Ukrainian-Russian agreement in 2022 "a bit more difficult"? The loss of influence in the post-Soviet zone, especially now after Brexit, would be too painful for the City to accept. As for Poland - well, Morawiecki has banking background (connected with British capital), so no wonder Poland goes hand in hand with Brits on this one.

Of course, it would be easier for Poland to adopt a more "Hungarian" approach to this conflict if Putin could hold some of his more eager dogs on a shorter leash with their fantasies of restoring control over Poland and the Baltics, bringing back the Soviet Union, nuking Warsaw etc. Basically, we had no choice but to support Ukraine in this war, but I think you are missing the most important British factor here.

Off-Topic / Terms of Russian Surrender [116]

@Novichok

Don't you EVER get tired of repeating the same old stuff over and over again?


NATO is not an empire, it's an alliance of free, democratic countries (well, Turkey is an exception). And no matter how much you try to twist everything around and distort facts - it was Russia that invaded Ukraine; NATO had nothing to do with it, as Putin himself admitted.

Off-Topic / Terms of Russian Surrender [116]


Neutral? Do you realise that Poland fought many bloody wars against the Ottomans, and the population of our border lands suffered immensely from Turkish invasions? I won't even mention your best pals Serbs (or Bulgarians) - ask them what they think about the Turkish rule. I'd rather have lines drawn in the sand and one desert tribe killing another desert tribe than constant invasions from an aggressive empire.

True, the Ottomans opposed the partitions of Poland but apart from that - good riddance.


When I stop worrying about Poland and think about what's better for the majority of Middle East countries instead, it will be a very sad day indeed.

News / Polish Parliamentary Elections 2023 [933]

I'm not sure if Putin even knows who Korwin-Mikke is. :D

He is an 80-year-old politician, well-known for his shocking views. He is also protected by parliamentary immunity*, so he can openly say things that most people can't openly say without fear of being persecuted (like the teacher who was put in front of disciplinary committee for taking part in a legal demonstration against Polish support for Ukrainians).

*Now, however, with "lex Tusk" passed, even MPs might be afraid to say anything that could be considered pro-Russian. Strange times we live in.

Off-Topic / Terms of Russian Surrender [116]


I'd rather dispense with both.


Hm... the only two empires that this might be true about are The First Rzeczpospolita and Austro-Hungary. As for others, good riddance.

Off-Topic / Things People Say in Ireland - Even though Novichok thinks they can't. [66]

@Novichok #7


So, you think that this kind of vile antisemitic nonsense should be allowed? When we know that tolerating precisely this kind of hateful cr*p led to the greatest genocide in the world's history? WTF?


Common decency - 1. Vile brainless hatred - 0

Off-Topic / Terms of Russian Surrender [116]


That's one of our tasks on this earth - to know what's in Russian heads and inform the world about it. :)


It's more about stopping aggressive imperialism. When that's done, we might have to worry about stopping aggressive nationalism, but that's another topic altogether (and for a different thread about a different war probably).

News / Polish Parliamentary Elections 2023 [933]

Korwin-Mikke wants an alliance with Putin and claims that Ukraine is a bigger enemy of Poland than Russia...



... I wonder how this will affect Konfederacja's chances in the coming elections. :)

Off-Topic / Terms of Ukrainian Surrender [42]


Good point. Of course, I meant God.

Off-Topic / Terms of Ukrainian Surrender [42]


Sorry, no can do. I can stop taking almost everything seriously but not religion. Everything else is only about the 75-80 (if we're lucky) short years that we spend in this vale of tears and banter. Religion, on the other hand, is about eternity; hard not to take it seriously!

Off-Topic / Terms of Russian Surrender [116]


What? I thought Russians had a deep, genetically encoded, affection for truth! ;)

Off-Topic / Terms of Ukrainian Surrender [42]


True. It was like University of Wit and Banter for me ;)


I can imagine it very easily and soon I won't even have to imagine because it will be real. :)

Off-Topic / Terms of Ukrainian Surrender [42]


Blah, blah, blah, yadda, yadda yadda.

You're so predictable, Rich. Next time just write "the usual"; it will save you some typing time and everybody will know what you wanted to say anyway.

Off-Topic / Terms of Ukrainian Surrender [42]


Is that what they tell you on Russian TV?

Poland gave some modern howitzers, manpads and Leopards but mostly we sent old post-Soviet junk (of which we still have a lot anyway), and new stuff is already replacing it (e.g. Korean tanks and howitzers already started arriving). Wojsko Polskie, with a little help of the American expeditionary forces here, would already wipe the floor with Russia. When all the Abrams, HIMARS, Apaches, Korean stuff, F-35 etc. arrives we will be invincible. Your altercation with Ukrainians would look like a kindergarten brawl compared to war with Poland.

Off-Topic / Terms of Ukrainian Surrender [42]


Say what? We provided some weapons for Ukraine to be able to repel the aggressors. All the killing there is done either by the Russian invaders or Ukrainian defenders. It's like in this old joke - "NATO hasn't arrived yet".

Off-Topic / Terms of Ukrainian Surrender [42]


If the EU/USA can come with their media there, "exert financial influence" and offer EU passports and other benefits, then why not. We'll see what the people will choose. :)

Again, you probably haven't thought this through.

Off-Topic / Terms of Ukrainian Surrender [42]


Hardly. In the twin thread I proposed fair, internationally supervised referenda in the contested territories.

Off-Topic / Terms of Ukrainian Surrender [42]

@Bobko

Ad.1 They never posed any credible threat to Russia
Ad.2 Were they about to join NATO anytime soon?
Ad.3 They agreed to that already and even gave up the nukes they had (for safety guarantees)
Ad.4 As far as I know, there is no hostility on the EU part towards EEU and Ukraine was dealing with both.

As you can see, Ukraine met most of your surrender conditions even before you attacked them. :)

Ad.6 sounds obvious in peace time after the status of the territory is agreed (if it's not agreed, then why should
Ukraine worry about a foreign country's city water supply?)
Ad.7 There would be no need for any compensation on any side if it wasn't for this war.

Are you sure you thought this through, Bobi?

Off-Topic / Terms of Ukrainian Surrender [42]


*brings BB around with some smelling salt*

Don't faint until you have seen Crnogorac's, Novichok's and Espana's proposals. :D

Off-Topic / Terms of Ukrainian Surrender [42]


We already have pawian troops, so that's covered.

Anyways, I have only just realised that Poland is not punished enough in the above points for her support to Ukraine, so...

8) Poland gives Silesia, Pomerania and Lebuser Land to Germany; Kladská Kotlina and Polish part of Těšínské Slezsko to Czechia, and Warsaw is divided into Russian, Chinese, Iranian and North Korean occupational zones.

9) Poland admits that Copernicus was German, Chopin French and that it was Russians who first invented vodka (and to really rub it in, that it was actually the French who taught us how to eat with knife and fork).

Hopefully, the Poland/West haters here will come up with more brilliant ideas.

Off-Topic / Terms of Russian Surrender [116]

@Bobko

I thought you were genuinely curious! *pouts*

My solutions make sense and might actually work. *pouts even more*

Off-Topic / Terms of Russian Surrender [116]

Whilst all the 7 points sound absolutely brilliant, they don't really solve the problem.

Russia after implementing points 1-7 would be humiliated, defeated and boiling with desire for revenge. Kind of like Weimar Republic on steroids (and Weimar Republics on steroids tend to turn into Third Reichs on steroids).

The solution - if it is to be permanent and fair - would have to encompass both Russia and Ukraine. So, I'd say:

1. Immediate cease fire followed by honest, internationally supervised referenda in Crimea, Donetsk and Luhansk. Permanent border treaty according to the outcome of the referenda.
2. Russia, as the aggressor, would have to pay some reparations.
3. Deep and thorough desovietisation and debanderisation in Russia and Ukraine. Soviet/communist and nazi/banderists symbols and ideologies would be outlawed, as they are both criminal, led to countless atrocities and should be allowed to die in shame in the garbage dump of history. All the politicians who supported either communist or banderist ideologies would be indefinitely deprived of the right to hold any office. All the Soviet and Banderist monuments are to be razed; stadiums, streets and squares renamed.

4. Królewiec would have to go back to Poland or be independent, not to become a source of conflict in the future.
5. Ukraine would become neutral and have its neutrality guaranteed by NATO and China.
6. Bilateral deep cooperation deals in economy, industry, science, education, medicine etc. would be signed between the EU and Russia making it extremely difficult (and extremely unprofitable) to go to war.

7. Firstborn sons of all the main EU politicians would be raised and study in Russia and vice versa. In case of war they would be beheaded.

OK, maybe I got a bit carried away with point 7 but you get my drift. Be strict, be fair, clean up history, make future war impossible - that's my idea.

Off-Topic / Five or more years of Erdogan! [32]


One is Turkey, the other is Belarus. The likes of Georgia help too. It looks almost as if West is allowing those loopholes for some reason.

News / When will the GDP of Poland be higher than Udmurtians? [5]

I wouldn't be so sure. The EU Fit for 55 program will hit us hard: Poland has the most expensive electricity in the entire EU at the moment and the cost of emissions (ETS) is likely to become even more burdensome for us (ETS 2 will also include houses, blocks of flats and private means of transport), and increase even more the prices of electricity, heating, hot water and transportation. All this will be a huge burden on Polish economy. Of course, in a situation where neither the USA nor China, nor India, nor South America, nor Japan, South East Asia... well, nowhere else in the world really is going to introduce such severe limitations on economic growth, all this eco-craziness doesn't make any sense (polluted air is not going to stop on the EU border and the temperatures will not stop rising with 95% of emissions still there, without any limitations). It will, however, put rich and developed EU countries in an even more privileged position compared to those who have to catch up on economic development.

A lot of smaller businesses (most particularly bakeries) have already gone bankrupt because of exorbitant energy prices; when Ff55 kicks in it will be the turn for transport companies (one of Poland's economy's flywheels) to be closed.

News / Polish Parliamentary Elections 2023 [933]


You, an enemy? God forbid... or, if you prefer, Mother Nature/Some Undefined Higher Force forbid. ;)

Off-Topic / Hollywood Films [62]


Not to mention that he draws from books by a neo-nazi Holocaust denier which alone should deter any decent, honest man from reading the vile cr*p.