News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [266]

The impact of Brexit will be felt over time, not instantly. The UK is getting less attractive as an investment target, and international companies will start redirecting their investments to other EU countries, reducing their presence in the UK.

Tesla builds its' giant battery near Berlin, not in the UK. And this is just the tip of the ice berg.

google.com/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/bdc9f940-bb92-11e9-b350-db00d509634e

Less investments =fewer jobs tax income in the future. No doubt Brexiteers will celebrate it in 5 years that their country is still alive, ignoring how much better they could have been off if they had stayed in the EU. But then again, they have no idea of economics or how the world actually is, otherwise they would not have voted for it.

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Which is why more than 55% of them voted for independence?

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Looks like he does not even recognize Montenegro's independence.


Still better than the rogue state Serbia used to be in the 90a before it got properly scolded by Nato.

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They are hardly creating anything. They are just mindlessy repeating nonsensical slogans they red on conspiracy sites.

Though I must say I find it in poor taste doing this on a forum dedicated to a country that has suffered so much under both Nazi Germany and the SU.

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Did you just mix Star Wars, Nazi Germany and the UdSSR together?

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People can villify anybody and anything. Which is why even people like Gandhi got murdered.

The EU is the greatest political project of peace and prosperity ever undertaken. But that doesn't stop people from hating it. Hatred is never rational nor sane.

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Last year, Mohammed was not even among the top 50.

beliebte-vornamen.de/jahrgang/j2018


Just compare how the Ukraine and Poland have developed since the end of the Sovietunion.


A single market like the European one does not work without political integration.


Maybe not CO2, but I think it would be good for the Polish people if the EU forced Warsaw to do something against air pollution in cities. The smog you regulary see on television (and one Polish friend told me about) can not be healthy.

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This is just a claim that has been refuted numerous times already. Germany has in fact a lot of soft power by any indication.

softpower30.com/country/germany/

Cultural soft power is more than just who has the most netflix series. Otherwise no country except the USA and maybe the UK would have any. It includes the numer of people who learn a language, listen ro music and read literature. And in that regard Germqny has a lot to offer.

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This nonsense again?

softpower30.com/country/germany/


You are confusing Germany with Poland here. Thanks to PiS, Poland plays little to no part in the creation of European policy making. Whereas Germany is still involved in all initiatives.

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [266]


I am not surprised, since you also see Gulags in the EU and probably a lot of other crazy stuff. Poland faces no military threat from the West, but it does from the East, and thus asks for Western support. If it were to leave the Western alliance system, it would naturally lose this help without any compensation for it.


Naturally both sides would suffer, since both sides benefit from the current status. But if we just talk about bilateral negotiations, there would be so many ways for the economically larger country to hurt the other without the latter being able to retaliate. Poland has a huge logistic industry, with trucks driving through Western Europe, with Germany as the central hub. It would be simply for Germany to introduce poll taxes for them. After all, if Polish drivers use German autobahns, they can pay for their upkeep (which Polish drivers are currently protected against by EU law). Germany could introduce measure to have Polish workers pay more taxes in Germany, and prevent them from claiming social benefits. (again against EU law). We could implement rules like Macron suggested to prevent polish plumbers from undercutting the minimum wage in Germany. What could Poland do against this? It depends after all on its' many expats, and like with the UK, Warsaw would adopt a conciliatory tone. Poland is also important as a work bench for Germany, but how long would it take for other countries trying to lure German companies away to them by offering better conditions? And that leaves out the possibility of closer economic relations with Russia, once Berlin does no longer need to show any consideration for Warsaw. Again, both sides would likely suffer, but unlile Germany, Poland would not have anything to lessen the pain.

And again, what is the strategic benefit of this for Poland? It does not gain anything by it.


I would consider them as Poland's big friends. Friends because they are willing to treat them as equals, but sadly this only works if the Polish sides is willing to act in good faith.

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Maybe not enemies to the West, but probably no friends. It is really puzzling to me how some Poles are so dead set on repeating past mistakes. It would be one thing of they said "We want to closely align with Russia instead", but it as evident that many of them deem Russia as a threat. Which means they are intent on weakening Poland's position without any tangible benefit. Do they really want to see their country into another Ukraine, constantly in danger of interference from Russia? Because NATO will likely not be around to protect them for much longer.

In short, they dream off a kind of independence that is not possible anymore. Smaller countries need to rely/ally with bigger ones if they feel threatened. And even military threats aside, bigger countries can dictate trade conditions to smaller ones, if the latter have no one to back them up.

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Racism was the only cause Hitler believed him. You Brits have written the best Hitler biographies, they usually explain this very profoundly.


I prefer reading books that deal with this issue, but does the Wikipedia page also point out e.g. that the Third Reich spend a smaller percentage of its' budget on social benefits than the Weimar Republic did before the economic crisis?

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Why would that suck? Perhaps for socialists, but then again, enviromentalists are usually not too bothered by the fact that Hitler implemented some of the enviromental policies.

This is just about historical accuraccy. It is absurd to call a man a socialist, who was never interested e.g. in redistributation of wealth, and whose "vision" for Germany was nowhere near equalitarian. Hitler was a social darwinist who believed that war was a natural part of human life, something to be welcomed because it eliminated the weak.

It is also worth noting that Hitler did far less for the poor people than is usually believed. This image is mostly created by his propaganda, but his government only cared about the rearment process. Bismarck implemented far more daring social policies, which would make him a bigger socialist than Hitler when we follow this logic.

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No, he was not a socialist, because he never believed in it, and never persued socialist goals. He implemented some social benefits policies, but I think we can all agree that this does not make one a socialist.

Hitler made it clear several times that he opposed socialist ideas. He threatened to leave the party in the early 20s, when the NSDAP wanted to cooperate with the local communist party against the government. He killed Röhm and others because their socialist views threatened to creat a rift between the NSDAP and the conservative elite in the military and industry.