Work / Salary for a senior software engineer in Poland [195]

Yea I agree with atch. Comparing Irish and dutch salaries with polish isn't a apples to apples comparison. Also one thing to note is in poland usually international corps tend to pay more than polish ones.

Theres nothing wrong w u playing hardball. They became 'unpolite' bc perhaps now they'll have to work harder to get you if they rly want you. Did u get the 17k gross?

News / Poland has accepted over a million Ukrainian refugees. Why does the EU keep telling propaganda about Poland? [304]

Speaking of Austria:

israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/232847

News / Poland has accepted over a million Ukrainian refugees. Why does the EU keep telling propaganda about Poland? [304]

@mafketis

Most moderate Muslims still support segregation of women and sharia tho.

Ill share a video as a source as soon as I have time to find it. Basically its an imam asking a rather large congregation of mostly young men and women questions like who is a muslim, who here considers themselves to be a moderate muslim and not fanatical, who here support segregation of men and women, who here supports sharia - amputation for theft etc

If we could've only had educated dare I say it even liberal Muslims in Europe we wouldn't be dealing with the rapes the explosions the attacks the no go special urban zones and migrants destroying trucks in Calais etc ... Shame that the British had to pay for a wall to be built on French soil

News / Poland has accepted over a million Ukrainian refugees. Why does the EU keep telling propaganda about Poland? [304]

@mafketis

Oh I know. People are naive to think a totally foreign culture will automatically adopt their values and lifestyle. Even after decades here I still celebrate vigilia rather than the American Christmas eve

Work / Salary for a senior software engineer in Poland [195]

I don't know but I highly doubt ull be put in the zus program right away. I could be wrong but I'd assume youd have to pay out of pocket till you're covered. Medical practice in poland is very cheap and professional though.

A lot of Indians move to poland to work it engineering and other hard skill jobs for corps in poland. However few stay as they go westward. Personally idk why because yeah in say the us or w Europe you may make 70k to 120k USD depending on your skill level experience type of company and location but expenses are far more. Imo itd probably be easier to save money on a high salary in poland than w Europe. Although some countries like Ireland don't have very high costs of living like London or Paris. Berlin and the rest of Germany was like that too for a long time although I'm sure the migrant crisis has created more of a housing demand hence increasing costs.

News / Poland has accepted over a million Ukrainian refugees. Why does the EU keep telling propaganda about Poland? [304]

@Crow

We already know that EU doesn't care about the millions of Ukranians as well as the several thousand Chechens and Georgians Poland took in... When the EU says 'Poland must take in migrants! Poland must abide by the migrant quotas!' they really mean 'Muslim and African migrants who have their hands open all the time but offer nothing themselves.

Personally, if I were the leader of a country I wouldn't mind letting in migrants from all over the world as long as they can demonstrate that they will be a net benefit to the society and adapt to our laws and our customs. The hundreds of thousands of migrants, mainly young men, do not seem to fit into this category. Of course not all are not terrorists, but the mass groping/sexual assaults, the huge number of participants in riots esp in France where entire neighborhoods go ablaze, and similar actions make one wonder why are more of these types of people being allowed in?

Genealogy / Are Silesians people German/Germanic? [178]

I'm not sure... but I can tell you there are still some old monuments in Wroclaw and the surrounding areas that are in German.

I was at a pagan cemetery on the outskirts that dates back some 800 900 years if not more. Most people aside from locals don't know about it as it's rather hidden in the woods but its a short 15-20 minute walk from the side of the road. It's surrounded by a moat and has a few burial stones some with what looked like runic inscriptions. I originally thought it was Norse or something but it could be maybe an ancient German language.

Work / Studies In Poland, is it easy to survive on part-time jobs? [259]

@DominicB

I wonder if SGH is in on this scam... This is one school that I considered going to in Poland. They have 2 MBA programs - one in Polish and one in English. However, the English one despite being held at SGH campus gives a diploma from University of Montreal upon completion. I couldn't find hardly any info on this school on their website and a link just referred back to the English MBA at SGH.

oferta.sgh.waw.pl/en/MBA/Pages/default.aspx

cemba.pl/admission/tuition-fees

Makes me wonder if this too is bogus... sad that arguably the best business school in PL had to resort to this.

I would think that an MBA from SGH would take you further in Poland than some unknown Canadian school, but I could be wrong... On the other hand, outside of Poland an MBA from a Canadian school will probably take you further than a Polish one... I could be wrong though...

Also that program costs 30k zloty plus $9k usd... not a small sum for poland

Work / Studies In Poland, is it easy to survive on part-time jobs? [259]

Yeah I'm just wondering why there's such a huge cost difference between the English mba and the polish one. Sgh is very respected even during commie times its where a lot of prominent people graduated from or sent their kids to attend.

However I've already decided to attend a us school. Just seems like a safer option even if I did decide to work in poland for a us corp in the future.

A person would have to be pretty much set on living and working in poland forever if they wanted to go to sgh. They'll make great money by polish standards even median salaries for a bachelors from sgh reach 10k zl and up. Unfortunately though it appears that sgh doesn't have an aacsb certification which is usually the international gold standard for b schools. Why they never bothered to get this certification is beyond me. The top eu schools like insead Erasmus oxford etc all have them and even a few polish ones do but I've never heard of them I.e. kozminski university which in guessing is some bogus private school yet they have aacsb and sgh doesn't : /

My cousin is actually looking into studying in England. He found a school he really likes for 9k pounds a year. I predict a phone call in the near future asking me for money....

Work / Studies In Poland, is it easy to survive on part-time jobs? [259]

@rozumiemnic

Yea he's polish. He just finished matura and he applied to 2 programs at wroclaw uni - one for microbiology and the other experimental biology or genetics something like that. Well he didn't get in apparently the acceptance rate was only around 9 10% for those programs (by comparison Harvard b school has an 11 12% acceptance rate). We just had a long argument on whether he should take the toeffl or not but he insists his English matura score is enough. I still think he should take it tho...

That's awesome see society should reward people for getting an education. A bachelors in the us just means you'll at least make 35 40k a year and pay your college debts till your 40. Now if someone gets a starting salary of 45 50k w a bachelors that's considered high. I know some doctors that are nearing retirement and are still paying student loans off. Unfortunately I don't think a system would be sustainable like that in the us anymore. The only people who really get paid anymore to go to school are PhDs because they do research for the uni but its more of a stipend than like a decent salary.

The mbas vary greatly in price in the us. It varies from a low 30k 40k for mba to 70k 90k all the way to 160k. Utter insanity. You can get an online mba of course from a no name school for like 15k but that doesn't really do you much good.

Work / Studies In Poland, is it easy to survive on part-time jobs? [259]

I honestly don't remember. I know it was in london though. I'm not an admissions advisor or anything but experience tells me based on my own applications to unis in the us that a toefl is required or at least highly recommended for non native English speakers to the more prestigious unis. Ill ask him though next time I talk to him which school(s) he was interested in.

I know that from my moms side a rather well to do uncle sent his two kids to study in england. I mean surely a decent British school will be more recognized and respected than a polish one. They'll probably have a better future or at least high earnings than if they stayed in pl.

Genealogy / Are Silesians people German/Germanic? [178]

The areas of silesia use to be german before ww2 and a bit afterward. Now its changed tho of course as the Germans moved west and poles took over those lands. There are still some poles tho that don't regard silesians as poles tho

Genealogy / Are Silesians people German/Germanic? [178]

It's in some forests outside of wroclaw ill ask my cousin what the closest village is I wasn't driving so I wasn't rly paying attention to the road signs.

Genealogy / Are Silesians people German/Germanic? [178]

Its not like some huge cemetery its maybe 15 square feet in total. Basically there's a short old wooden decrepit bridge you cross over and there's a raised mound which supposedly has a mass of bodies in it surrounded by a small moat. At the top of the mound are a few stones w weird writing but one does have a Celtic style cross that is taller than any headstone. My cousin stated teenagers come there to drink and smoke pot and occasionally some strange people chant. He found it while jogging or hiking he's one of those super health conscious vegetarian types. I took him out to eat and a lady gave him chicken rosol despite ordering a vegetarian one poor guy nearly threw up and was wiping his tongue w napkins. I told him too bad it didn't happen in America bc we could've rounded up a bunch of vegans, protested and sued the place so he wouldn't have to worry about how he's going to pay tuition for his bachelors. Nonetheless in poland no one would care lol.

Also I do know some pagan tribes in eastern Europe buried their dead facing east not all were cremated.

Work / Studies In Poland, is it easy to survive on part-time jobs? [259]

@jon357

It's 9250 pounds per year to be exact.. However I'm sure that figure will probably At least double once things like housing, books, random fees, food, etc is calculated. I'm not familiar at all w the English uni system but based on my travels and corporate experience i think its safe to say hell probably make more money working in the west w a biology degree than in pl. He stated that bio grads typically don't make much more than 4k at most 5k zloty starting out in pl. I never researched it myself but it sounds about right. Even doctors in hospitals in pl make very little.

However he himself doesn't have the money for it and I guess has to use some 3rd party for a student loan. I urged him to be extremely cautious but ultimately its his future I can give him advice but I can't tell him what to do. Unfortunately his/my grandma and grandpa spoiled him and his mom to the point where working is a foreign concept. Back when they had their health and a ran like 5 businesses they could've paid for all that but not anymore. I already know they're trying to butter me up to give him money. I will help him get a job and teach him how to save and invest but I refuse to be swiety mikolaj.

@delphiandomine
Yes there's an increasing amount of jobs for non polish English speakers - restaurants, hotels, some corporate customer service, etc. You are right though most are the student type jobs though

Genealogy / Are Silesians people German/Germanic? [178]

Crow its not so cut and dry. People and cultures have been intermingling since pre history. You can't really say one nationality is nicer than another. Physically stronger or faster perhaps. For example Europeans tend to be better at sports involving weight lifting while Africans tend to be better at sports involving sprinting. But again that doesn't mean though that every African is faster than every European or every European stronger than every african

Genealogy / Are Silesians people German/Germanic? [178]

Idk about men but I believe dutch women are the tallest or at least most long legged

I do agree though I find eastern European women esp polish and Czech most attractive in general and will most likely marry within my own culture and nationality but that doesn't mean I don't find Brazilian Columbian Swedish Aussie etc girls fine as hell. I even find certain afro carribean girls attractive.

Genealogy / Are Silesians people German/Germanic? [178]

Idk if I would exactly consider 'robust' to be an attractive quality in a female. But hey different strokes for different folks...

Were rly getting off topic now lol

Genealogy / Are Silesians people German/Germanic? [178]

Dude the dutch are not sarmats... I love you crow but come on now...

Speaking of svetoid I just passed a new worship center that popped up in my old hood and lo and behold its a little Ukrainian svetoid church. First time I've ever seen one in person. I bet joker knows where I'm talking about

Genealogy / Are Silesians people German/Germanic? [178]

@Lyzko

If we had a decent sample of silesian DNA we could answer this question

I didn't consider that maf. Usually when I hear the word robust I think of fat. Kind of like when I was a chubby lil kid they made my jean sizes in "husky' lol

Genealogy / Are Silesians people German/Germanic? [178]

@Lyzko

Its an old east euro pagan god svethoid aka swiatowit.. He had 4 faces one for each of the cardinal directions

Work / Studies In Poland, is it easy to survive on part-time jobs? [259]

@mafketis

In us and probably uk as well as other western countries though they could. I paid my way through a bachelors and graduated debt free which is extremely rare nowadays through a mix of a few small scholarships but mostly working as a waiter, delivery driver, and towards the last year of college as a commodity broker. However I worked full time and it took me 6 years to get a bachelors which normally takes 4 although I took a break to work as a broker and didn't take any classes between years 5 and 6. When I was working at a restaurant during the week id typically work around 7 pm to 3:30 4 am, wake up around 11, go to class then work again.. I usually worked 6 days a week. However I was averaging around $20 $25 even up to $30 an hour cash (min wage plus around $140 to $160 in tips. Some nights I made over $200 in tips though). Only downside is my grades were bad as I never had time to study for more than a few hours and i wore my body out doing that. I don't regret it though.

In poland though the wages for low skill jobs are very very low. For example a security guard at some mall makes around 9 10 zloty an hour. Idk how much a waiter makes but ppl leave small tips in poland - they typically just round off the bill.

I personally think it would be nearly impossible to pay for schooling, rent, bills etc on a student type job in poland without receiving some sort of extra financial help.

News / Poland has accepted over a million Ukrainian refugees. Why does the EU keep telling propaganda about Poland? [304]

So a 16 year old German girl was captured in Mosul hiding in Isis territory. Finally the Iraqi army grew their balls back and lo and behold they find this teenage snow bunny.

The debate is now should germany take her should she go to prison be hanged?

I say give her a shot of sodium pentathol and interrogate her to find out if she killed ppl. If yes life in prison. She was an impressionable teen and got there at age 14 so perhaps her being raped by a buncha random bearded dudes while she was there and a few years in prison is enough.. IF she in fact was used as a 'wife' and didn't see the front lines.

News / Poland has accepted over a million Ukrainian refugees. Why does the EU keep telling propaganda about Poland? [304]

@jon357

Well we shall see what the governments do. Either way they need to get to the bottom of it. I doubt she was raped though at least as a young child. By Isis? Definetely... I think she was probably just some loner who got radicalized online and persuaded to go as several western teen girls have the difference is they have up surrendered and are currently in jail or awaiting whatever punishment society and a judgel in the West saw fit for them to atone. Nonetheless it was still her decision to go plus the fact that she was there till the last pockets raises all sorts of questions. For example if thousands of yazidi and other women managed to break free why not here when Isis was crumbling? Also, if she killed people w Isis that means she is surely crazy and ought to be at least put in an insane asylum.

News / Poland has accepted over a million Ukrainian refugees. Why does the EU keep telling propaganda about Poland? [304]

@spiritus

Poland already has taken in her fair share of people who are actually fleeing war and poverty from the Ukraine Georgia Chechnya etc. We've also taken in Iraqi Christians who have it worse than anyone in Iraq.

Were tapped out. Tell other countries to take in a mix of 2 million foreign migrants and refugees in a 2 3 year period. Poland has every right to pursue things that are in line with out own self interests. We won't be bullied though and told what to do by a foreign power. We already had a taste of that one too many times and won't let it happen again.

If it were up to me I'd welcome hordes of the most educated technical people from all over the world. But when countries tell you who to take in and how many it degrades human to cattle. A country and its citizens have a say in what happens within their boundaries. That is why we have the un to discuss such issues but also for countries at large to respect each others sovereignty.

News / Poland has accepted over a million Ukrainian refugees. Why does the EU keep telling propaganda about Poland? [304]

@Crow

Doubt it. Eu doesn't care about Poland or the East unless there's some sort of political pushback. We've become basically a vassal state and buffer zone for the wealthier West. Sad, but why sugar coat it?

News / Poland has accepted over a million Ukrainian refugees. Why does the EU keep telling propaganda about Poland? [304]

Jesus Christ....

You'd think with the European emphasis on women's rights and encouragement to join the workforce, be educated, independent, etc that alone wouldn't mesh well. Let alone other things like gay rights or laws on inciting hatred. Yet these migrants appear to be protected from higher on up and tend to only be prosecuted when they really cross the line I.e

That choudry character from england

News / Poland has accepted over a million Ukrainian refugees. Why does the EU keep telling propaganda about Poland? [304]

Over 1 million (I believe 1.5 was most recent number I read) work permits were issued to Ukrainians

1.3mln in 2016 according to this financial times article

ft.com/content/aeda9ebe-3afa-11e7-ac89-b01cc67cfeec

News / Poland has accepted over a million Ukrainian refugees. Why does the EU keep telling propaganda about Poland? [304]

No one said they're refugees. And even if the specific word refugees were to be used wed still meet our obligations. There's around 6k Ukrainian refugees. Add that to the georgians, chechens, and few Iraqi families and were already right around the 7k mark the eu pushed on us anyway.

Exactly. The Ukrainians are workers. They're not welfare leeches who ignite entire neighborhoods murder children and cause a state of emergency like in france. The ones in the east mainly went to west Ukraine to escape the violence. Yes some people from the east did go to poland - these are the refugees fleeing bombs- we took in 6k from just that one group alone... Plus over 1 mil economic migra ts.. No matter how you look at it we've met our goal of solidarity.

Notice the language has changed from the eu lambasting Poland for not taking in migrants as opposed to refugees. Everyone knows the vast majority of the people who came from Africa and the middle east are not refugees but rather economic migrants. That's why now the term migrant has been used interchangeably with refugee and also as an all encompassing term.

History / Can anyone from Poland tell me about Auschwitz and The Ghetto? [582]

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@Lyzko

If there were only more Zionists who thought like you..

I was actually surprised to learn that many in the orthodox community are supportive of Palestinian rights. Some even go as far as saying israel shouldn't exist (which I personally don't agree with) but their position comes more from the Torah rather than geopolitics.

Article on Auschwitz with some points from yehuda Bauer
nytimes.com/1989/11/12/weekinreview/ideas-trends-auschwitz-revisionism-an-israeli-scholar-s-case.html