News / "We will not hesitate to shoot Kaczyński dead" - KOD Facebook page [164]


Actually it's president Duda, Jarosław Kaczyński and kaczyści. Duda has said he will be president of all Poles. He doesn't act like one. Both him and Kaczyński call everyone who disagree with them traitors, commies, worst sort of Poles to name a few. Kaczyński has said stuff like criticizing Catholic Church is anti-Polish and he will force even atheists to admire the Church. They condemn Jews, gays, muslims.

You don't say stuff like that if you want to be president of all Poles. Or maybe if you love the True Scotsman fallacy:

- All Poles like PiS.
- Jacek doesn't like PiS.
- Yes, but he's not a true Pole.

That way you can change the rules as you go.

News / "We will not hesitate to shoot Kaczyński dead" - KOD Facebook page [164]


An anymous caller said someone planted a bomb near Sejm. That's why the demonstration in Warsaw was dispersed.

News / "We will not hesitate to shoot Kaczyński dead" - KOD Facebook page [164]


Cui bono ?

News / "We will not hesitate to shoot Kaczyński dead" - KOD Facebook page [164]

The guy who coined the term "IV RP" is critical about Jarosław Kaczyński. Right winged publicists are having second thoughts. Law about Służba Cywilna is making things worse. They even point out Piotrowicz acts like opportunist. Kaczyński causes conflicts, but dialogue and teamwork is needed to make changes. His behaviour disrupts trust.

wsieci.pl/zly-czas-dla-kasandry-pnews-2586-page-1.html

News / How would Poland change for the better (or worse) under a PiS government? [257]

I already posted about it but the thread was censored.

News / Monthly Smolensk Commemorations in Poland! [34]

"Lech Kaczyński successfully worked for principal position of Poland. He actively participated in solving social conflicts. He served the country well." - senate

Apparently burying Lech Kaczyński at Wawel Castle wasn't enough. In new resolution, the senate is celebrating the 10th anniversary of his swearing-in.

News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

Today I went to my local Empik store to return a newspaper I had bought yesterday. It was missing a number of pages form the middle (double holiday editions...). I had the receipt, but otherwise no proof that I didn't pull the pages myself, for example. So I went to the nearest clerk. She quickly called the shift manager. Upon hearing about my problem, she interrupted my first sentence saying I will get an adequate copy. And she immediately gave me one.

If PiS was a shop, they would first call me a liar. I would have to show them the receipt (Empik staff barely glanced at it). Then they would disappear in the manager's office and saying they have time until closing of the shop to process the complaint and bide their time, hoping I would go away. Then they would call me a thief because *I* damaged the paper in their shop. Then they would say they sold me the paper in a completely legal transaction and it's my fault for not checking the newspaper. Then they would say it was a bad newspaper anyway, and I should read only patriotic newspapers, and the fact I read something else means I'm not a true Pole. Then I would describe the event on a couple of forums and rally a few of my friends to demonstrate in front of the shop. Then they would say I'm a social parasite because the only thing I want is free newspapers. Eventually, grudgingly, they might return my money or give me an adequate copy.

Empik follows the philosophy that even though it's theoretically possible that I removed those pages at home (the paper is not stapled), it would be an unlikely, lame theft or fraud. So Empik assumed I'm a honest, innocent customer and customer satisfaction and friendly relation is very important. It's probably worth it to accept a minor loss or compromise. It's not worth it arguing about minor matters and pursue profit at all costs.

PiS treats dissatisfied people as guilty until proven otherwise. They follow law to the letter, not in the spirit. The transaction was legal, they have my money, GO AWAY man! It was probably your fault. You can't criticize my patriotic shop. It's slander. You're just a sore loser because our shop is very succesful. I bet you ran the competitive shop near the railway station that went bankrupt. Now WE run a shop near the railway station, and you will like it.

News / Monthly Smolensk Commemorations in Poland! [34]


I live in Poland and have always paid taxes. Sejm and Senat are supposed to represent people like me. I pay their wages. I think they're wasting time and money celebrating a mediocre president. There are much more important things to take care of.

They're trying to start a personality cult.

News / "We will not hesitate to shoot Kaczyński dead" - KOD Facebook page [164]


I watched Fiddler on the Roof two days ago and loved it. What's your point ?

News / "We will not hesitate to shoot Kaczyński dead" - KOD Facebook page [164]




Did you know Mateusz Morawiecki headed a bank just a few weeks ago ? Now he's prime minister Szydło's right hand. Why does PiS put 'banksters' like Mateusz Morawiecki in power ?

News / Poland to end state funding for IVF treatment [102]

Marek Pietrzyński from PiS has criticized HPV vaccines, saying introducing them is wrong because it assumes young women will have many sexual partners. Instead, they should be raised in accordance with catholic values. He says HPV vaccines are a part of a larger plan, like legalisation of prostitution.

500 PLN per child, that's what Prime Minister Szydło said during her expose. Not a single word about funding of children creches or kindergartens. Do you know why ?

They follow the Christian Democracy line of thought. Woman is expected to stay at home, give birth, raise children, cook and clean. If she had access to subsidized creches or kindergartens, she might do something unwholesome, like go to university or start a career.

There's another reason why 500 per child might not be a bright idea. It will make the biggest difference for poor families. Children born in poor families often stay poor. Poverty is largely hereditary - unless they have access to very good education. This is done in Finland, where teachers are prepared centrally in a top level university, then go and teach in some backwater towns. The result is that backwater town education is nearly as good in Helsinki.

News / "We will not hesitate to shoot Kaczyński dead" - KOD Facebook page [164]


Quoted for posterity.

Kornel Morawiecki is the guy who said good of nation is more important than law. That sounds suspiciously like Carl Schmitt, who paved Hitler's rise to power. It's really the same kind of argumentation. And because the nation doesn't know what's good for it, it will need a strong leader. I dunno, maybe Jarosław Kaczyński ?

News / Poland to end state funding for IVF treatment [102]


That's the thing with money - it's hard to track, and prove that the 500 was used the way it was meant. PiS says the answer is more audits, more controls. If instead they chose to fund kindergartens and creches, there would be no need for extra audits and bureaucracy.


Why would these fathers get 500 if the goal is to keep women at home ? Makes no sense.


They don't. Especially graduates. I'm a programmer by profession and most job offers contain the phrase "at least 2 years of experience in technology X". You've chosen a particularly bad example, because in IT and CS work experience is valued much more than a paper. You dramatically improve your chances if you work as an intern.

Experienced IT workers have money thrown at them. Graduates don't. Universities also like fancy and interesting programming languages like Python, while job market wants the opposite - it's extremely risk-averse and prefers "industry standards" like PHP, Java, C#, C++. Graduates have plenty of (often unpaid) practices to choose from.

News / "We will not hesitate to shoot Kaczyński dead" - KOD Facebook page [164]


That wasn't PiS, that was the (not yet registered) openly pro-Putin party Zmiana. They have their own KOD impersonating group on Facebook and claim they are the real KOD. Russian trolls are fanning the flames.

wyborcza.pl/1,75478,19369931,trolle-z-proputinowskiej-partii-mateusza-piskorskiego-podszywaja.html


So he thought he got a better deal. I don't see how this is a sacrifice. Similar to how Wojciech Jasiński, poseł PiS discarded his Sejm membership for a cozy position as the head of Orlen. Yes, 3 days ago he became the chairman of the huge petrol retailer.

Wojciech Jasiński is 67 years old. He was a member of Sejm since 2001. He has very little business experience, mostly in communist era in copartnerships like "Społem" and Spółdzielnia Transportu Wiejskiego, as well as Srebrna (strong ties to PiS, including Jarosław Kaczyński). He wasn't chosen in a contest, he was appointed. He was also a PZPR member, and he joined after 5 the pacification of the worker protests in December 1970. At the time PZPR was changing the PRL Constitution, adding gems like "PZPR has the principal role" and "unbreakable polish-russian friendship".

News / "We will not hesitate to shoot Kaczyński dead" - KOD Facebook page [164]


Yes, he did.
"Prawo to nie świętość." (Law is not sacred.)
"Nad prawem jest dobro narodu." (Good of nation is above law.)
"Prawo, które nie służy narodowi, to bezprawie." (Law which doesn't serve nation, is lawlesness.)



Good of nation... I wonder who decides what's good for the nation ? Maybe PiS ?

Supporters of democracy talk about society. Supporters of authoritarianism prefer the word nation.

News / Poland to end state funding for IVF treatment [102]

Did you know Trybunał Konstytucyjny (Constitutional Court) ruled in the past that a raped woman can't get an abortion, arguing that a pregnant woman is a family and a family should be protected ? Catholic morality at work.

Another reason why PiS Poland is against in vitro is that it technically lets a virgin to give birth (cesarean birth). It happens in UK, costs 5000 pounds and both Catholic and Anglican churches are strongly against it.

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


Even discounting the fact Jacek Krawiec was the chairman of PKN Orlen for the last 7 years, he was an effective businessman before that. He was an effective chairman of Elektrim and Impexmetal. Also worked in: Sindicatum Ltd London, Action SA, Huty Aluminium "Konin", Metalexfrance Paryż, S and I SA Lozanna, ce-market.com, Polska Telefonia Cyfrowa, PTE AiG. Earlier, he worked in banks: PKO SA, Ernst & Young, PricewaterhouseCoopers, Nomura plc (Japanese invest bank in London).

He graduated from Economic University of Poznań.

Wojciech Jasiński's education is in Law&Administration.

G, you're embarrassing yourself.

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


Nothing except Unipetrol, Czech part of PKN Orlen (that was in 2008) ? Krawiec more than proved himself as a competent manager of PKN Orlen in the last 7 years. He was an effective businessman before that. What's your problem ?

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

Before parliamentary elections, Petru made a point that almost all members of .Nowoczesna are new people and fresh faces, and they were especially careful not to take party jumpers. That was part of the draw. I hope Petru resists the temptation. Getting 28 -> 29 people is meaningless in current Sejm. It's not worth sacrificing principles over scraps like that. It's the next election in 4 years that's the big payoff.

News / Regain banking assets - new Polish finance minister supports privatisation in Poland. Corruption? [33]

I heard a speculation that Mateusz Morawiecki resigned from his bank position not just to become Beata Szydło's deputy, but to become the chairman of the (state-owned) Bank PKO BP. It probably won't happen, but it sounds so funny I'm posting it just in case.

News / New European Council's report: "Poland oasis of racism, xenophobia and homophobia" ... [343]

Merged: Racist attack in the middle of Warsaw. Witnesses too scared to testify.

21-12-2015
A dark skinned man was beaten by a group of "normal-looking" men in the middle of Warsaw. No swastikas, shaven heads, concealed faces etc. It happened in front of metro entrance ("Patelnia"). They were shouting "Where are you from ? Get the f@!$ out of here!"

A bystander with 3 friends, returning from a party, tried to help him. The victim got away, and aggressors focused on newcomers. They ran away. Metro security saw t his but didn't react. Many people witnessed this, nobody reacted.

The police said nobody filed a complaint. Witnesses are saying they're afraid and their identity might be revealed. There's a security video, but it won't be used before the formal process starts.

Source?

News / New European Council's report: "Poland oasis of racism, xenophobia and homophobia" ... [343]


If attackers were Muslim and the victim was Christian, it would be.

polska.newsweek.pl/rasizm-ciemnoskory-mezczyzna-pobity-w-centrum-warszawy-na-patelni,artykuly,376155,1.html

Update: someone reported to police.

tvnwarszawa.tvn24.pl/informacje,news,pobili-obcokrajowca-na-patelni-policja-sprawdza-nagrania-brak,189237.html
metrowarszawa.gazeta.pl/metrowarszawa/1,141637,19383103,w-niedziele-na-patelni-pobito-ciemnoskorego-mezczyzne-dzis. html

Po polsku / Polska jest dyktaturą? [129]

Polska rzeczywiście zmierza w stronę państwa totalitarnego. Totalitarnego, czyli państwo mówi ci jak żyć. Z kim chodzić do łóżka, w co wierzyć, czego się uczysz w szkołach (Sienkiewicz i Mickiewicz, bo po co komu Kapuściński), co świętować, komu wolno macać dzieci i ukrywać dochody.

Jedna partia, państwowe media pod kontrolą, usuwanie Trybunału Konstytucyjnego, usuwanie sędziów (jest plan, żeby sędziom obniżyć emerytury - wtedy starsi będą mieli pokusę żeby przejść zanim przepis wejdzie w życie, a miejsca można obsadzić młodymi wilczkami szkolonymi przez Dudę). Jak w państwie totalitarnym, pierwsze zmiany dotyczą tajnej policji.

News / New European Council's report: "Poland oasis of racism, xenophobia and homophobia" ... [343]

Somehow it's missing from this thread ? Earlier this year (5th November) a 31 Christian man from Syria was beaten unconscious in the middle of Poznań. In a mall, in fact. Attackers were so excited they bragged about it on Facebook (screens, because posts were removed). They were saying stuff like "he should pay for his own treatment", "Finally some good news" and other 'witty' things. The victim was a doctor, living in Poland for 3 years.

This is the only coverage in a right-winged paper I found:
prawapolityka.pl/2015/11/chrzescijanin-pobity-w-poznaniu-bezmyslnosc-czy-rasizm/
rp.pl/Spoleczenstwo/311079950-Hierarchowie-i-prezydent-u-pobitego-Syryjczyka.html
poznan.wyborcza.pl/poznan/1,36037,19139631,syryjczyk-pobity-prz ed-starym-browarem-rasistowski-atak-w-centrum.html

News / Poland to end state funding for IVF treatment [102]

I said above that 500 per child needs good education to become an investment rather than cost. There's one more requirement: good economy. If economy is bad, those surplus children will escape to another country. The state can spend 500 per child and not see the return at all. Or the 'surplus person' won't be able to find a job and will live on social welfare.

In vitro may not technically cure infertility, but the net effect is it results in more children. That's what couples ultimately care about. Unless you're like Duda and split hairs for bogus reasons to suit your agenda*, you won't care. A real cure for infertility is only desirable for couples that want more than one extra kid.

Furthermore, when In Vitro is successful it results in a new birth. Curing someone of infertility doesn't mean the new potential will be used. So state funding of in vitro makes more sense than state funding of (hypothetical) infertility cure. Fewer things to control, fewer fraud opportunities.

* veto for transsexuals on the basis that a person might want to undergo the very long and painful sex change process more than once - causing legal confusion.

* pardoning Mariusz Kamiński under the excuse he wanted to calm people rather than fan the flames
* signing various documents and acts as soon as possible under the guise of calming people and making them not worry about anything during Christmas

News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

Archbishop Hoser just said that Church is aware that Constitution is not The Bible. If it's not well formed, it can and should be changed.

Church in Poland frequently says stuff like that. The most politically involved priests are liked the most. People who are bothered are afraid to speak up.

Po polsku / Polska jest dyktaturą? [129]

Inny przykład gdzie Polska skręca w totalitaryzm - Minster Gliński wysłał pismo do urzędu marszałkowskiego we Wrocławiu, żeby odwołać premierę sztuki teatralnej. Państwo ma decydować co robią artyści ?

Rozmontowywanie demokracji trwa. To jak nity wypadające z lecącego samolotu. Wypadnie 1, 2, 10 - nic się nie stanie... aż w którymś momencie £UP. Możnaby to wszystko zrobić jedną ustawą, ale chytrzej jest krok po kroczku, żeby ludzie zorientowali się gdy będzie już to tylko formalność.

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Polonius3, nie rozumiesz słowa 'totalitaryzm'. Nie ma (i nie było) dyktatury poprawności politycznej, bo państwo nie działało aktywnie żeby ograniczać ludzi zgodnie z poprawnością polityczną. A obecne państwo właśnie robi wszystko, żeby o tym nie tylko gadać ale i rzeczywiście ograniczać, co mogą robić obywatele. Obcięcie dotacji dla in vitro, realne utrudnianie (przepisami) życia parom homo, ludziom zmieniającym płeć, ludziom innego wyznania (obowiązkowa religia w szkole) lub ateistom (prawo o obrazie uczuć religijnych). Obecne państwo chce zmieniać program nauczania, lektury, zamiast zostawić to szkołom. PiS nie tylko obsadza media swojakami, ale planuje taką ustawę medialną że zarządy mediów będą 1-osobowe i to z partyjnego nadania. Państwo klęka przed klerem, nie kontroluje ich dochodów i daje łagodniejsze wyroki (np ksiądz który ukradł studentowi aparat fotograficzny) i umarza sprawy (pedofilia, pedofilia, pedofilia). Jest pełno ludzi, którzy uważają że katastrofa w Smoleńsku to przede wszystkim wstyd i głupota - żeby pakować tylu ważnych dla rządu ludzi w jeden samolot. Nie stać na dwa ? To nie wyprawiać się z taką pompą. Żaden inny kraj tego oficjalnie nie powie, ale tam się pukają w czoło.

Domaganie się, żeby szkoła nie narzucała określonej religii to nie jest żadne zmuszanie, wręcz przeciwnie. To jest większa tolerancja. Domaganie się, żeby nie tępić ludzi ze względu na kolor skóry czy orientację seksualną to też nie gnębienie ludzi, a właśnie więcej wolności i szacunku dla ludzi, którzy jeszcze nikomu nie zaszkodzili.

Wolność pierwszego człowieka kończy się tam, gdzie zaczyna się wolność drugiego.

Posty Poloniusa3 to 90% demagogii, bo jest w nich bardzo mało konkretów a za to mnóstwo pobożnych życzeń, niczym nie popartych oskarżeń i przeinaczeń.

Study / Student from Nepal travelling to Poland with dependent for further studies. Any job? [87]

If you only care about the job experience, there are many internship offers. If you also want a decent pay, you're likely to be disappointed. But who knows... many companies prefer students to experienced employees. But you can earn enough to pay for your room.

News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]


And so was Rzecznik Praw Obywatelskich! (Advocate for Citizens' Rights)


He is also a very high ranking priest. He's using his religious authority to back up his political views. He's making an impression this is the Church stance.

Certain positions carry responsibility. Every popular figure bears more responsibility for what he says. Church authorities are special in the sense that people who trust them are not fans of rational thinking. Faith promotes acting against logic.

Po polsku / Polska jest dyktaturą? [129]

Totalitaryzm nie zależy od tego, czy mi sie opcja podoba czy nie. Totalitaryzm to rząd, który stara się regulować każdą sferę życia obywatela - publiczną i prywatną. Totalitaryzm stara się utrzymać przy władzy przy użyciu szeroko zakrojonej kampanii propagandowej, często z wykorzystaniem państwowych mediów. Jest jedna partia stosująca represje, kult jednostki, kontrolę ekonomiczną, ograniczenia wolności słowa, masowe śledzenie, i terror.

Z wyjątkiem otwartego terroru, rząd PiS wszystkie te punkty wyhacza, czego dowiodłem wyżej. Do terroru też nie ma daleko, bo na niego przymyka oczy (pobicia różnych kolorowych, palenie kukły Żyda, bicie kochających inaczej).