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PolkaTagAlong   
16 Aug 2012
Off-Topic / I am a Pariah: My Horror Story [44]

I don't think anyone on this forum quite yet understands why I am the way I am or how I came to be that way. I figured since many of the members on here are Americans of Polish descent, they would certainly be able to relate about being untouchable when they are in certain places and they have a funny name. Part of my situation probably has to do with my recent "immigrant" ancestry and part other reasons, like the fact that we are working class, but we're more culturally like upper middle class people.

Both my sister and I had similar experiences in grade school growing up (she is in her early thirties and I am just 20). We were ignored and shunned out of basic kid social interaction, no matter how interesting or funny we tried to be, starting basically in kindergarten, although it was far less extreme then. I believe that children sense when something is a little different about another child, and they naturally exclude them from everything. When I was little, I had friends, but I was still treated as an outsider. For a time my sister went to a black school because they lived in the city, where she was basically tortured because she was intelligent and white as could be, while the few white children's parents didn't want their kids to go to her house because they thought she lived in a "bad neighborhood." We actually lived in kind of an interesting neighborhood with the upper middle class Jewish people and the poor inner city folk, some black, some white. Then when we moved and she went to the district I went my whole life, she still had no real friends and what few acquaintances she had would try to conspire against her. I had similar problems with semi-friendly acquaintances conspiring against me, except with me it was about my blonde hair and looks instead of my SAT scores. For a time (before I was about 13 or 14) I still liked people and I believed that if I kept trying I would eventually make friends. Then the reality hit, and I became an angry, surely, confused and eventually fragmented and identity stripped person.

After taking a leave in my second semester of high school, where people shouted for me to kill myself in my face, threatened me if I sat on a certain bench near them, and spread vicious rumors about me loud so that I could hear, I was seeing a shrink because my parents didn't know what to do about my wild behavior and near-serious anorexia (a good deal of this had to do with knowing I had no control over my situation at school), which naturally only made things worse. My parents didn't really understand my situation and I had no one that I could truly relate to that I felt a connection with that I could confide in, so it felt like I was in this internal prison. About a year later, I finally broke free from my confusion and turned into a realist. I wasn't bothered at all by sitting alone, in fact, I looked forward to it. My apathy towards having "friends" actually made people like me a little more. And for a time, I would make jokes and say things that people thought were so hilarious and they admired. So much so that some of the popular people came up to me and said that they never really got a chance to know me, and that they're sorry, although they never made any effort or showed any interest in letting me into their crowd. It kind of reminds me of the book, "The Hundred Dresses" in fact, it's almost exactly like my situation except it's in a different time period and culture.

I look back now and I realize how sadistically I was treated, by both adults and children, and realize how horribly WRONG I was about who I thought I was. I really believe that I am a victim of the monstrous biases in society and that I should see myself that way so that I don't lose sight of things. It's just another thing swept under the rug that is an example of how sick our culture is. What happened to me is not really bullying, it's a whole different kind of uncommon situation. I should have figured this out long ago, but my psychological problems kept me from seeing it. I think deep down all those years I was semi-aware of the truth, and I desperately wanted to face it, but with all the stress of being a social outcast and not completely understanding everything was too much. So basically because we're not of a southern baptist background, we were (and I still am) pariahs everywhere we go in this community and there is nearly nothing I can do or we could have done to change it, because once you're a pariah, it's really hard to come out of. It isn't anything that's wrong with me, it's the mob rule of our sick culture that is what's wrong. Our family has no connections to the people around here and consequently I am cut off from almost everything in society. Now the shit is really starting to hit the fan and I am freaking out because I can't make sense of my fragmented identity. I just can't understand the person I've become, it's not who I imagined I wanted to become in some ways.

It's all I can do but to cling to my "Polishness" and everything that has brought me into my situation. I want nothing more than to feel familiar with someone, which I think I would with many Polish-Americans. We tend to look similar, have similar kinds of families and interests, and sometimes even react in the same ways or have the same mannerisms. Everything is genetic, it just is. It would help reunite my sense of identity and I just hope that my special traits, my looks and my creativity, will be able to get me out of my situation somehow like my sister's smarts did for her. Whether it's attracting a good guy whose love can help fill in the holes in my life by joining in with his friends and family and establishing meaning and connections or having my own business or becoming a famous novelist I just pray that something will change.

When I look back at some of the pictures of myself when I was young it's creepy how skinny I was. I remember you could see my ribs and my face looked so gaunt. My expression was like I was in a fog from the low blood sugar I had. I was SOO delusional about my body it was just obsurd. Southern baptists tend to be fat because they eat a lot of unhealthy food, and I looked at them with disgust and was afraid of being like them. I really wanted to be accepted, but on the other hand there was a side to me that disliked them.

Polkatagalong,Try to keep your posts in the 100 - 120 word range,your first post is way too long.I'm not coming down on you;just asking you to keep that in mind.Fair enough?

I'm not offended. I can't explain my situation in 100 words, and I was using this forum partially as an outlet to rant about things I can't normally talk about in real life with people who are not Polish. Is the problem the amount of content you have to read in the thread, or just the post itself having too many characters? I can break up my posts in the future if that is what the problem is.
PolkaTagAlong   
17 Aug 2012
Off-Topic / I am a Pariah: My Horror Story [44]

Yes,the southern baptists around here are a whole different strange breed. Although they're probably like this to an extent most places, I think this is like a freak situation. I've met southern baptists in Dallas, and they're just like normal people, I would never have guessed they were baptists. The famous writer, Thomas Wolfe wrote about how horrible the Asheville people are in his book, "Look Homeward Angel" which was banned when it first came out. They actually still kind of have a hostility towards it.

Polka - you need to move.

I know. I need to find someone who can help me figure out a good place. I'm going to have to save up my money and live like a spartan so that I'll have money to travel with.

Americans always have a problem wherever they go.

This is true I'll give you that.

dont dwell on the past.

Clearly you don't get how it is to be a pariah.
PolkaTagAlong   
17 Aug 2012
Off-Topic / I am a Pariah: My Horror Story [44]

Lol that's not what I said. I admit I was exagerrating a little. Girls hate a cute blonde is what I meant and that only worsens my situation. I don't think I'm intelligent, but I'm imaginative. I definitely didn't say I was known for being funny or culturally superior. You are misinterpreting what I said. My whole situation has almost nothing to do with me, it just has to do with the fact that I'm not of a southern baptist background and my family has no connections to the people around here.
PolkaTagAlong   
17 Aug 2012
Off-Topic / I am a Pariah: My Horror Story [44]

No, I've never been under the name of Amanda. What do you mean I've had other handles?

You think so, really and truly? Wow, that's quite a compliment, that made my day.
PolkaTagAlong   
18 Aug 2012
Off-Topic / I am a Pariah: My Horror Story [44]

SF? Or the Northeast? I was thinking of moving somewhere in Maryland where there aren't too many blacks or possibly Chicago but the problem with Chicago is all the places where the Polish people are concentrated it is SOO dangerous. I am a really paranoid person and I couldn't stand having all these menacing looking blacks around all the time. They have really crazy drivers too. I like to feel safe.
PolkaTagAlong   
18 Aug 2012
USA, Canada / Chris Gets Dumped on the Bachelorette for Being Polish! [52]

They were calling him stupid in this one blog for his strategy of hooking up with multiple women in the house. I like hot, dumb jocks. It's kind of funny, opposites attract, he seems to like quirky girls with a personality, a little bit eccentric.
PolkaTagAlong   
18 Aug 2012
Off-Topic / I am a Pariah: My Horror Story [44]

I was actually shocked that the other members didn't pick out my persona right away. I wanted to see how long it would take them.

New England is one of my favourite places in the world. Proper snow filled winters and hot summers. Chilled people, beautiful scenery, woods and beaches. Seafood to die for(and I am from as island) and not much diversity. Whats not to love?I am biased but I would heartily recommend it.

That's too far. I want a place that has some of the freedom of the south, but want to feel connected to almost everything. Pittsburgh is a place I am seriuosly considering, they even have a little mini Polish community with immigrants who came during my time, like the late 1800s. There is less limited freedom there than in New England, and the climate isn't bad. For a city they have a pretty low population of blacks.

I can also find certain sub-areas within Pittsburgh that are less overun by blacks, so it's not like I'm living right next to them all the time.
PolkaTagAlong   
18 Aug 2012
Off-Topic / I am a Pariah: My Horror Story [44]

REALLY? No way, I guess they're more sensitized to it up there or something. Here it's like an unsaid kind of ostracism. They know something's different about you, but they don't really know what it is. If there is ANYTHING if at all the least bit off about your manner or the way you do things, you're almost certainly going to be an outcast. It may be different in the city of Asheville now, but I'm sure the people there are still more of the same in a different package.
PolkaTagAlong   
18 Aug 2012
USA, Canada / Chris Gets Dumped on the Bachelorette for Being Polish! [52]

So you are one of those quirky types? ;) Mates seem always to look for someone they can dominate in one way or another. An intelligent woman can at least out-think a muscular yet dumb guy. Just like he will try to dominate her physically.

Lol I know that is true haha. Never play dumb for a guy or otherwise he really will think you are dumb and break off the relationship when he finally figures out he can't use you. I learned that the hard way haha.

I sure am but I'm not like really, really quirky. The best way I can describe it is a little bit eccentric, but I hide it well when the time is necessary. Yes, but you can manipulate him that way hehe.
PolkaTagAlong   
19 Aug 2012
USA, Canada / Chris Gets Dumped on the Bachelorette for Being Polish! [52]

I'm not talking about marriage, but I just won't tolerate a womanizer that goes out with multiple women at a time in a serious relationship. If you couldn't see yourself ever marrying the guy, what is he even worth anyway?

In response to Filios-

I knew what you meant, but why even get into a serious relationship with a guy that you know is going to be a loser in the end? They're going to ask for sex eventually and that's when they forget about you and move on to the next "new car" lol. I might "go out with him" a few times, but I wouldn't take it seriously.

I thought he was a sweet guy, not necessarily dumb, but I posted a bunch of comments on his page defending him from haters and talking about the show for a period of a few weeks and eventually he banned me from visiting his page. Why does he even have a fan page if he doesn't want crazy girls trying to jump on him? I thought he liked the attention, and that's why I was giving it to him. He liked a lot of my comments, so I don't understand what the deal is. If you open up a public page, LOOKING LIKE THAT you are GOING to get the CRAZY lol.
PolkaTagAlong   
19 Aug 2012
USA, Canada / Where could I go in Pittsburgh that has a high population of Polish-Americans? [39]

I know there is "Polish Hill" but I don't like the looks of that neighborhood very much, it looks kind of dead. I'm looking for more of a mix of mostly Germans and Poles and I need there to be a lot of people in their mid-twenties. At least 1/4 would be good. I need the people to be very normal and professional, I don't want to see punks and bohemians everywhere; that's what I'm trying to get away from. I care a lot more about the people than how good and convenient the neighborhood is, but I refuse to live in a dump.
PolkaTagAlong   
19 Aug 2012
USA, Canada / Where could I go in Pittsburgh that has a high population of Polish-Americans? [39]

Polkatagalong,Why Pittsburgh?

Because it's nice there, and it's a big enough city to feel connected with everything, but no so big there are all these crazy regulations and you feel trapped like in NY. It's also farther North so you're away from the rednecks, but not so far north that you have to deal with crazy yanks. I've heard a lot of people who like it there, it looks like my kind of place. They have a lot of Central Europeans I've heard.

I want to stay in the East and I don't want to go farther south, going far west or south are not options.
PolkaTagAlong   
19 Aug 2012
USA, Canada / Where could I go in Pittsburgh that has a high population of Polish-Americans? [39]

I don't want to live in like a little Polonia necessarily, I wasn't raised catholic or with any kind of religion for that matter, so I'd probably stick out like a sore thumb. Ideally, I would like there to be some Poles (10-20%), some Germans, some English. I just want to be around a few of my type of people so that I feel familiar with someone. I don't need to live in an ethnic neighborhood. Chicago is really dangerous and hard to get around in.

Even though the old culture is mostly gone, there is still a population of Poles in Pittsburgh if what I'm gathering from wiki is right. 8% is pretty good, but the question is what percent are less than 30? It's a lot better than nothing. As long as there isn't a high black or jewish population (not more than 20%) along with that it's great.
PolkaTagAlong   
19 Aug 2012
USA, Canada / Where could I go in Pittsburgh that has a high population of Polish-Americans? [39]

I don't have an elitist attitude. Have you ever tried living alongside blacks all the time? They look at you menacingly, they're loud, their pants are falling down ugh. Unless they're integrated and professional, it gets really old seeing that all the time. My sister went to a mostly black school when we were in the city and she was tortured. I just want to be happy, that's all. I don't choose to stick my head in the sand and avoid the truth.
PolkaTagAlong   
19 Aug 2012
USA, Canada / Where could I go in Pittsburgh that has a high population of Polish-Americans? [39]

If you know Chicago, what suburbs do you think would be good for me? My reservations are the following:

1. Is reasonably safe and a low crime rate
2. Has a 10-20% population of integrated Poles and recent immigrants
3. minorities don't take up more than 25% of the population
4. Has a diverse mix of Northern Europeans
5. at least 30-40% of the population is under 30
6. The people are friendly, and will not beat you up when they hear you're from the south.

Lol I know I want like an impossible place haha

It seems like you are running away in an attempt to find something that simply no longer exists.

I know my dad thinks it's ridiculous.
PolkaTagAlong   
20 Aug 2012
USA, Canada / Where could I go in Pittsburgh that has a high population of Polish-Americans? [39]

I heard there are a lot of Central Europeans in Central Europe. You might want to try that.

I mean people who are influenced by that ethnicity, not actual Central Europeans, I should be more clear.

Eeew Florida is a horrible place, I wouldn't even live down there for two weeks. There are a million Floridians moving up here from there. I like the high in the summer to not go above 80 lol. I can't adjust to the heat like I can to the cold. I don't like the Florida people (no offense) and they have too many insects. It's not my style there. I dated a guy from Florida and he was a dork.

Philedelphia is nice. I was there once. I could never live in the states though --so I am no help.

They call it filthydelphia.

All you need is a sh!t-load of money and you can be assured that you will not run into a black person for miles. Otherwise, you're might have to learn how to be gracious to the dirty masses like the rest of us. ;)

I doubt my salary as a medical records technician will pay for that haha. I'm just a quirky version of your average joe schmoe.

Mt.Prospect, IL about 15 miles NW of Chicago has a growing Polish Population.

That one actually looks promising, the problem with Chicago is that it's VERY cold in the winter and very HOT in the summer. I'm used to a very temperate climate.
PolkaTagAlong   
20 Aug 2012
USA, Canada / Where could I go in Pittsburgh that has a high population of Polish-Americans? [39]

The south is very hot in the summer, depending on where you are.

Oh no, It's not near as hot here in the summer as it is in Chicago.

Pittsburg is cold in winter as well.

I could easily get used to Pittsburgh, it's only a zone colder than what I'm used to.

If I worked in a hospital or doctor's office, do you think I would have to commute into the city everyday? It all just depends on whether I could find a job that is close so I wouldn't be in traffic everyday.

If I worked for a few years, got a promotion, got married, then maybe someday I could live in one of the rich neighborhoods.
PolkaTagAlong   
20 Aug 2012
USA, Canada / Where could I go in Pittsburgh that has a high population of Polish-Americans? [39]

Exactly, the job I am going to have experience in is pretty fast growing so if there is a big doctor's park in that suburb it could definitely be a possibility.

The important thing is that I can find friends that I really like and have things in common with. I want to be in a neighborhood with a lot of young professionals like myself, not college students, or retired people. Suburbia may not be a good idea, it could be lonely, but I feel that Pittsburgh is a little too small for me. A population of 500-700,000 would be best.
PolkaTagAlong   
20 Aug 2012
USA, Canada / Where could I go in Pittsburgh that has a high population of Polish-Americans? [39]

Then there's the regentrification movement. If you can find a place being regentrified, you might find a lot of young, professional neighbors renting nearby.

That would be Polish hill, it's a nice deal for the money, good views and in a convenient location close to downtown, but there still aren't a lot of young people. It's a target for black people with a lot of kids who have a low income and retired folk. It's a dying neighborhood and some say it's going to grow, but I don't think it's going to any time soon, probably because it's a little too dumpy. South Side would be the second choice I think, but they have more of the people I'm trying to get away from here, bohemians and hipsters. I'm doubt Pittsburgh is going to work for me, but there are some things I really like about it and it has a nice feel.
PolkaTagAlong   
20 Aug 2012
Language / Your favourite Polish proverb? [16]

"Under capitalism, man exploits man; under socialism, the reverse is true."
PolkaTagAlong   
22 Aug 2012
Off-Topic / I am a Pariah: My Horror Story [44]

I never run into any biggotry

Well you definitely haven't run into any southern baptists then haha jk.
PolkaTagAlong   
25 Aug 2012
Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [656]

I think I definitely have the "slim heart face" with pointy cheekbones that the OP described. It's odd, some men are really into this and some not so much at all. I had a crazy guy lusting after me one time who would always comment on "what beautiful sharp features I had." At the time I thought this was an insult but I discovered that this is definitely a compliment. It can give the face kind of a chaotic look, but these features really emote.

I think on average Polish people tend to be taller and slimmer. Women also tend to be bigger up top (I am proof of this hehe). I know that my body is a rather slim to average type and I'm a tiny bit taller than average (5'6) but most of my body structure is quite robust despite this. I have big knees, thick ankles, and shoulders. I know that my grandmother with Polish influence on my father's side had the thick ankles, not sure about the other traits though. I think she was more of a slender, less robust type.

Is it a typical Polish Slavic thing to have rather course, bushy hair or is it probably a sign of jewish influence? I don't have any genetic Ashkenazi markers but I think it is likely thick hair probably meant they had a small amount of jewish ancestry.

I sympathize with the OP. Junk food makes me get fat easily and if I don't exercise and eat normally I can put on a lot of weight, but I tend to be pretty slim. Some of that stuff with all the saturated fat I can't even digest properly, like Chick-fil-a. It just goes right through my system.

Don't you think this model looks Polish? She has a slight dimpled, uneven chin that is common in Poles. You can still have that chin defect like me and be beautiful! youtube.com/user/LiveRunway