Genealogy / my Polish Grandfather in Hitler Youth? HOW? [65]


It could be that you're not very German and because of what they measured in racial tests they thought your ancestors were more German than they were but they never examined the records like they did with some people. They may have put Polish because that was the nationality of his ancestors for a long time, but assumed he had German pheasant blood because of his appearance.

A lot of times when there wasn't enough information to prove someone they were Germanizing was Aryan (like gaps in the family tree), they would simply do racial tests (face measurements) and base someone's acceptability on that. You technically did have to have pure German ancestry to be considered aryan like the other member said, but if you passed a racial test you were assumed to be. There were loopholes in that. This may be the reason it says "Polen" instead of Polish on his hitler youth card. I don't think you should feel affected by what you found out about your ancestors, because chances are, they maybe had some little connection to Germany and were just doing what was mandatory to survive.

UK, Ireland / Crying Polish truck driver on British roads is Internet hit [269]

He was probably upset because he didn't know exactly what was going on. But that is weird the way he was crying though LOL!

Life / Individualism in Polish culture...Is it almost Nonexistant? [170]

Sorry, I don't believe this. What proof do you have?

Yes, Polish parents are very controlling (my sister's friend married a Polish man and his parents ruined the marriage). This is actually one of the reasons I doubted individualism in their culture, because the parents have so much influence and control over the children their whole lives. I was talking about the closeness of the Polish FAMILY, not the parents in particular.

UK, Ireland / Crying Polish truck driver on British roads is Internet hit [269]

uhh huuuuh huuuuh huuuuh uhhh huuuuh huuuuh huuuh *makes sad face*

*Wipes eyes and sniffles*

youtube.com/watch?v=0A89VTMk8HA

This is actually hilarious to me because when I got stopped one time for tailgating I cried uncontrollably because I was afraid the cop was going to take away my license or something because he sounded so mad.

Genealogy / Do I look Polish? (my picture) [375]

Yes. I am somewhat versed in anthropology, and you look like a mixture of Eastern European subraces, primarily East-Baltid. However, your profile shows more of a neo-danubian influence. Besides your slavic genetic makeup, you do remind me of the "Polish look" that I can faintly see in myself and others of Polish descent that have the widely spaced eyes, high forehead, and prominent cheekbones. I would guess you were about 1/4.


He does NOT look German at all. At least not the real stereotype, maybe he could pass for being from that country.

Life / Individualism in Polish culture...Is it almost Nonexistant? [170]


I'm sure this is a big deal for Poles living in their home country, but when I say the smothering influence of the family is bad, I'm talking about immigrants living in contemporary America. It creates a culture clash and the customs are totally unnecessary. Not to say families shouldn't stick together, but many take it to an irrational, extreme level.


I think I'm going to have to agree with you here. Individualism is not a "refusal to cooperate." I tend to think of cultures in which you see the same distinctive traditions and customs of a nation, and same personality stereotypes as more collectivist rather than indvidualist. I think a lot of this is probably from the influence of the catholic church. Although I will say that Magdalena is right in saying that MOST people aren't stubborn and uncooperative . Polish culture isn't really individualist, Poles just have to process ideas through their own head and follow their own will, whatever it may be. They will never take someone's word for something. Being stubborn and opinionated is different from being individualistic in which you are influenced by your own unconventional ideas rather than tradition. There may be very individualistic Poles, but as a whole their culture is not very individualistic IMO.

Life / Individualism in Polish culture...Is it almost Nonexistant? [170]


It's not hard to tell just by observing it in general. Let me repeat myself for clarity, I am not saying Polish people are not individualistic necessarily, I'm saying the culture isn't. Culture is gradually influenced by the masses over time and as things change. If a culture even has stereotypes at all, it usually can't be very individualistic. For example, I can't really make out a clear stereotype of a Brit or a Frenchman or an American. Most Western European countries are pretty individualistic, but there were times when they weren't.


eeew, sick, why did you post a link to that. You ruined my day.

PF MEMBERS, DO NOT follow the link, it is sickening and you will be sorry you did.

Life / Individualism in Polish culture...Is it almost Nonexistant? [170]

I know because I hear about it from my family, and I study history. But when I assume to know something about Polish culture, I'm talking about Polish-American culture in their communities. Some of these things I just know because I subconsciously follow them, even though I wasn't raised in Polish culture. I never said I knew anything about a country I've never been too, but one can get a pretty good idea from studying history from books and on the internet.

Life / Individualism in Polish culture...Is it almost Nonexistant? [170]

It was you who was doing that all along. I always insinuated that I was talking about Polish people in America. Yes, I am aware that "these days" globalism is taking over and every corner of the earth is slowly turning into a hell hole.

Feedback / Daily/Weekly Polls (suggestion) [19]

No, we do not need Polls, otherwise we'll have 50,000 opinions.

Life / Individualism in Polish culture...Is it almost Nonexistant? [170]

I do not claim to be a social scientist or anything other than an opinionated person, but I am confident in the inferences I make based on what I observe. You are totally misinterpreting what I said. I tried to explain it a thousand times. Let me quote myself. [Let me repeat myself for clarity, I am not saying Polish people are not individualistic necessarily, I'm saying the culture isn't. Culture is gradually influenced by the masses over time and as things change.] These are not just things I've observed in Polish people, but all cultures. Although this varies quite widely in America and other western countries like it, people of a certain group tend to automatically inherit and absorb cultural personality traits of their kin. I can look around me and observe these things and see for myself that it is fact, I don't need to conduct sociological experiments or read scientific journals to know this is the case. I am merely stating my opinion for it to be heard, I have never understood why people on the internet are so hung up on members posting "scientific proof" for their beliefs, which is about as "debateable" as the history books and sources you point out. Anyone with an agenda can try to cherry pick their way into proving their hypothesis.

OF COURSE there are individualistic Poles who contributed to the culture, I was never saying that POLISH PEOPLE can't be individualistic like anyone else. Just from what I can see in traditional Polish culture is that individuality is not naturally encouraged through that culture. I am not saying this because I know a lot of Polish people, I'm saying it because I can tell that what is considered the cultural mainstream is not individualistic, because of history and religion. I know what individualism is, and I know on my own terms that cultural traits are absorbed into the next generation, further strengthening the cycle of what it promotes. Nothing is so black and white like you are making it out to be. On one hand someone could be very individualist and contribute something very original, but on the other they are absorbed into a culture that is altruistic/collectivist and they can't see anything else, so they are not an individualist in the pure sense. All cultures are collectivist to an extent, otherwise they wouldn't even be a culture. It is a very complex and abstract issue.

Life / Individualism in Polish culture...Is it almost Nonexistant? [170]

@Boletus, you are interpreting everything I said too much in black and white, I am not going to take the time to explain it for you again. My impression of Polish culture is that because of certain influences, it seems to be more on the altruistic side. When I started the thread I stated my opinion and my impressions and was then asking what other people's opinions were.

Can someone explain to me what this Polish saying means? Under Capitalism, man exploits man; under socialism, the reverse is true.

Work / Would it be easy to live in Poland next summer and find a job and a place to live? [14]

That sounds like it would be a fun experience! Wish I was Polish enough to do that.

Life / Is it McPoland? [63]


I like that.


I know exactly what you are talking about and it drives me nuts. When the fries are fresh, they are delicious. Most of the time they are ok, some of the time they are not good, and they've got about a one in five chance of being delicious.

Mcdonalds food is crappy and full of chemicals, but when you need a quick bite, it won't kill you. If you don't have health problems or lead a sedentary lifestyle, eating it once a week or less isn't going to make you a big fatty. I used to practically never eat fast food, but now that I've been in college for a few years I've definitely gotten my freshman 15, although I was quite skinny then. I wouldn't quite say I'm too fat yet, but I'm definitely borderline a little too heavy. So, yes, if you eat fast food now and then, you will most likely not be slender, your waist will get bigger. I think you Polish should watch out and tell this fast food crap to go away, it tastes like crap and will ruin your culture. I'm also in favor of parents being strict on young girls (and even boys sometimes) about their diet. Fear has to be instilled in them about getting fat to counteract all the agressive marketing of junk food. They have to be taught that the taste of junk and fatty food is not worth what it will do to you and you should avoid it like the plague.

Life / Individualism in Polish culture...Is it almost Nonexistant? [170]


Oh haha I get it.


Now I am beginning to understand the historical influence for that quote. When communism went away, it mostly turned into completely rich and completely poor people right? So, what do you think needs to happen in the world before political and cultural changes can begin to take place in Poland?

When I say cultural changes, I mean a stronger national identity that cultivates the individual and no censorship in the media.

Life / Individualism in Polish culture...Is it almost Nonexistant? [170]

Well, he said they still don't feel free in Poland. I'm guessing if censorship from communism was going on not too long ago there is still a hint of it going on, because it takes time for people to become unbrainwashed. I've never been there, so I don't know.

Travel / Collection of dress codes in Poland - what to wear? [95]

Personally, I like skirts better, but jeans or pants are more appropriate for work and school. I like skirts and dresses better, because when I wear one, it's my fun day. I'm kind of unconventional about fashion. I just like what I like, and what looks good on me, I don't necessarily follow the trends.

Love / Best way to find a Polish husband...ideas? [120]

We broke up after a month. He took things too quickly or he was just trying to use me all along. Guys in med school do that. The sooner we broke up the better though, because now that some time has passed by I have realized just how WRONG of a person he was for me.

Love / Best way to find a Polish husband...ideas? [120]

Hmm, could be a good idea, but I dislike church people around here very much. It probably just depends on the church though.

Love / Best way to find a Polish husband...ideas? [120]

Could be, but a lot of bad men are avid churchgoers, it's part of their act.


You're definitely right about that. It's just hard for me to go to a church I've never been too when I'm not even religious.

I don't even think there are too many singles nights at local churches, I dunno these people are weird about that kind of stuff.

Love / Best way to find a Polish husband...ideas? [120]

Yes, but I am good at resisting it, because I am highly sensitized. I don't think its realistic to assume that the man I find is going to be irresistibly attractive. Uber attractive men are a pain in the butt and picky most of the time. Most likely they will live with you, and get uninterested and move to another girl when they find that you smell after exercising or don't give a good enough hand job. Because, quite realistically, they can get anything they want with the way they are, and everyone wants the best they can possibly get. I don't want to live up to those ridiculous standards. There are very few decent, attractive men. I can be in love with someone that i'm not as attracted to and be infatuated with the person i'm more attracted to.

You have to let the men find you, yes, you are right, but you have to make yourself AVAILABLE to be found. Because if they don't see you, or get acquainted, they will never know you're available will they?

Most of the time, men who are looking for casual sex are not that interested in a relationship, but are just looking for a pussy to bang. Once they find out they can't convince you to jump right in bed with them, they're not interested at all and you never hear from them again. Then there is the type who is more artful at getting you to think he is serious and is more willing to work at it. I have been burned so many times, I am just not going to let this happen anymore. This happens 90% of the time when a guy approaches me.

Love / Best way to find a Polish husband...ideas? [120]

Yes, but I find it so weird because I can't be convinced that there is a God, I just can't. And you have to donate some of your income to the church, that is NOT happening. I am worried about finding someone who is very religious because I'm not religious, and it's kind of deceitful to pretend like you are.

Love / Best way to find a Polish husband...ideas? [120]

I am attracted to men that aren't super good looking, just in a different way. Like if a guy has an edge to him, and he's good looking, but he's not a ken doll, I defnitely still find sex pleasureable. There are different levels of attractiveness, obviously!


Really, my parents say it has to be like 5-10% of your income. I'm plenty ok with giving a small amount to charity, that is if it's a legit one that truly goes to a good cause. That may be the case with the churches where you are, but I'm pretty sure it's not the case here.


I didn't say they aren't looking for sex! I WANT a man to desire me, he just has to know that I am not going to give him what he wants until he gives something to me, and that is protection and commitment. If you give a man the prize, what incentive does he have to carry on with the relationship? It shatters any chemistry there may be. They would never say they aren't interested in a relationship, they just mean it and they think the woman is stupid enough not to realize what they're doing, or they're just so impulsive and frustrated they can't help it.

Love / Best way to find a Polish husband...ideas? [120]


We don't have those where I live, it's not a sophistocated place. And the "sophistocated" people around here are virtually dry of young bachelors that are my type (not talking about looks necessarily).

I'm thinking if I ever am to find the right person, I will have to move somewhere after I get my degree. It will be difficult living where I have no connections or family but it's do or die.

Love / Best way to find a Polish husband...ideas? [120]

The problem is, there really aren't a lot of places here like that to hang out and find the right crowd. No one hangs out at a museum or art gallery, it is a small town. There are no concerts, unless you count weird hippy stuff like a drum circle. There is a very strange divide of people here. The weird hippies/gays and old yuppies and the baptist country people.


Some guys practically won't even have a good conversation with you until they know something is in it for them. If a guy wants premarital sex in a relationship, and the girl refuses to give it to him because she wants to make sure she is safe, or she is not in love with him yet, then the guy will go elsewhere. The only time a relationship has the potential for chemistry is when the man asks the woman out and pursues her, and I don't have any beautiful hunks chasing after me, just sayin, so I think I have to lower my standards. When there is real chemistry between two people, it is very hard and unnatural to develop a platonic relationship. That's not what I'm looking for. Real men don't do that.

What I'm trying to say is, the guy always wants it before I do, either because I don't like him as much as he does me, he is not ready for a real relationship and can't control himself, or he doesn't care about being with me he just wants to bang a pussy. Maybe young guys get frustrated because they are inexperienced and I am demanding and slow-moving.

Love / Best way to find a Polish husband...ideas? [120]


ugh


Its impossible to get to know someone when all they're interested in is getting in your pants. period. I try to get to know them and all they keep asking me is if I will give them a blow job.

Love / Best way to find a Polish husband...ideas? [120]


Most men are far too lazy, infantile, unsuccessful, and wanting to be pleased every second, and far from bedroom material. I could go on with more reasons all day, from the video game addictions to the dancing around the truth to the taking everything they want and not even thinking about the woman's needs. Most men cannot take criticism or admit when they're wrong, they can NEVER be at fault for anything.

Love / Best way to find a Polish husband...ideas? [120]


I didn't come on here to find a husband on the internet lol. Nothing says stupid like making judgements about someone you've never met before.

Love / Best way to find a Polish husband...ideas? [120]

I was just thinking the same thing, I need to lower my standards a little bit and just let things happen instead of scrutinizing and trying to cherry pick my situation. I just have a few reservations that I am not willing to budge on, like that he can't be non-white and he has to be tall. I just know that I can't be attracted to short men.


I know for a fact that internet dating doesn't work.