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Posts by Antek_Stalich  

Joined: 6 May 2011 / Male ♂
Last Post: 24 Jun 2011
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From: Poland, Brwinów
Speaks Polish?: Native speaker
Interests: Making music, photography

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Antek_Stalich   
13 Jun 2011
Life / Uptight Poles [262]

and by laid out you mean laid back...

Of course! Bear in mind English is only my third language.

And I know many more Poles than just my husband, to dispel the assumptions.

Are sure you are talking about the Poland's Poles?
Antek_Stalich   
13 Jun 2011
USA, Canada / Polish-Americans as seen in the false mirror. Type A and Type B. [141]

Yeah, if I were given the chance to vote in US presidential elections, I'd go for Obama because I love black (clothes) and besides Obama was so convincing presenting his ideals!

About the same level of understanding of US affairs, right?
Antek_Stalich   
13 Jun 2011
USA, Canada / Polish-Americans as seen in the false mirror. Type A and Type B. [141]

Not to say I do not have PolAm friends, specifically those who expatriated in 1980's. Not to say I do not have Romanian friends immigrating to the United States in 2000's. These real-life contacts can be divided into two groups:

A. People grateful to the new country that has given them new opportunities but new challenges, too. At the same time these people are:
1. Trying to totally melt in the new society, why not, this is what inhabitants of almost all countries expect from immigrants;
2. Trying to maintain the link with the Old Country.
3. Ambassadors for Poland, Polish culture, the Polish cause, trying to reflect the Poland's matters in the positive light

B. People who believe they were blessed by God by their immigration to US/Canada and who:
1. Feel superior to compatriots left in the Old Country
2. Despise Poland and Poland's Poles
3. Describe Poland as a hopeless, poor, backwards, and failed country
4. Live in dreams based on what Poland was when they were leaving her
5. Express the darked political/social views with total lack of understanding what has happened to Poland while they were staying in the new country.
6. Are the smartest and most successful people in the world, while Poland's Poles are dumb jackasses.

A classical phrase for the type (B) is this exclamation of a RomAm on his stay in Poland:
-- You call it HEAVY RAINING? Come to Houston, you will see what HEAVY RAINING means!
Because of course, everything is biggest in the United States, including natural disasters... (I wonder why he failed to mention Californian earthquakes... ah, he was a Houstonite, why didn't he mention floods? Certainly, floods in the region are far more dramatic than we have in Poland! ;-))

Whatever, type (A) or (B), many PolAms (I'd say, most of them) live in their own world completely torn off the Poland's reality. Yes, they subscribe to the Polish press, they watch satellite TV, they listen to Polish radio on the Internet and read Polish Internet portals. This, however, gives them about the same understanding as a Poland's Pole could gather on internal American affairs... Every American can perfectly understand that a Poland's Pole does not know anything on the US/Canada real specifics. PolAms, however, seem to be the ultimate experts in the Polish internal affairs. More! The can vote in the internal Poland's matters!

Now, let me say something. I live in Poland and am myself happy with the progress here, even if Poland cannot become economic or political superpower, at least not instantly. "Nie od razu Kraków zbudowano". Still, as for a country ruined by WWII and 44 for years of Soviet supremacy here, Poland does fine. Not all Poland's Poles agree to that! Still, Poland's Poles live here, and it is their right to decide how Poles will make our living better, together. Yes, there are enough Left-thinking, Right-thinking, Church-thinking, Centrist-thinking and any other -thinking people in Poland to stir the ideas and make Poland better or worse place to live.

Having said the above, I join the Polish Forums and see what? The "screaming" majority of PolAms behaves as if they were Type B. Is it representative or is it a false mirror in which Polams are seen?

Discuss.

Or bin this thread and ban me. I've seen enough to think that it would be a valid option.
Antek_Stalich   
13 Jun 2011
Life / Theft of a Golden Mug in Poland [24]

Here are a few photos from an old manual on teaching respect in the countryside:

You have missed that scene with hand-grenades ;-)
Antek_Stalich   
12 Jun 2011
Travel / Poland in photo riddles [3134]

...called the Polishville ;)

Hence the White Eagle in the class-room ;)
Antek_Stalich   
12 Jun 2011
Food / Mayonnaise and ketchup in Poland [47]

This is very interesting, Softie!
By the way, nobody mentioned Heinz. Heinz make perfect ketchup in Poland (I think it is also made in Pudliszki) and their mayonnaise is also good.

I've read labels on Heinz Ketchup and Pudliszki Ketchup. Identical composition, no starch added (which is rare), similar taste, same production site. Probably only different labels ;)
Antek_Stalich   
12 Jun 2011
Food / Expats' Polish food favourites [140]

There, there... a good Krakus! ;-)

BY THE WAY... What do expats think of Krakus (TM) canned meat?

And one more thing: As you know, there is the famous Krakowska sausage, not to be confused with the German Krakauerwurst. In my opinion, the best one is made by Morliny in Ełk. However, you can easily get terribly bad poultry-based Krakowska. My bad luck was it was sold to me in... Kraków. What do you think about the genuine, pork Krakowska?

I noticed dogfood had BoBo on it.

Are you sure it wasn't baby food?! (Bobo, bobas, etc. are related to babies. Perhaps it was for pups!)
Antek_Stalich   
12 Jun 2011
Travel / Poland in photo riddles [3134]

What is this?

I'm sure it is a grammar school in Northampton, UK.
Antek_Stalich   
12 Jun 2011
Food / Mayonnaise and ketchup in Poland [47]

No wonder Hellmann`s is so revolting!

Admit you are revolted because presumably their mayonnaise is made in Warsaw and all we know what Warsaw is! ;-)

All together!:
A... village... up... north... of...!!!
----
The fact is, the label reads: Made by Unilever, Domaniewska, Warszawa and there is no factory over there ;-)
Antek_Stalich   
12 Jun 2011
Food / Mayonnaise and ketchup in Poland [47]

Right, right, Stu, however, there are many products from international companies available here. Once a product has been made in Poland, it is 590 on the bar-code even if this is Coke. I think Hellman's is Dutch made.
Antek_Stalich   
12 Jun 2011
Travel / Poland in photo riddles [3134]

Let me guess... This is from pawian and he is a Krakowian ;-) so perhaps it is the Kopiec Kościuszki or Kopiec Piłsudskiego in Kraków?
Antek_Stalich   
12 Jun 2011
Life / Theft of a Golden Mug in Poland [24]

Wildrover has really got a grasp on Polish countryside ways.
I'd wait for his Russian experiences from him as an eye-witness. Remember about me, Wildie and tell stories!
Antek_Stalich   
12 Jun 2011
Life / Uptight Poles [262]

No, talking about stereotypes related to uptight-ness (sorry!) of Poles from different part of Poland and of different countries of the world is certainly on topic, Seanus.
Antek_Stalich   
12 Jun 2011
UK, Ireland / Brits say being drunk senseless while visiting Poland is national trait [98]

Which does not change the fact the British and Americans can perfectly understand one another speaking "English" but the Danes speaking Danish and English speaking English won't understand one another.

What is the message you want to send?
Antek_Stalich   
12 Jun 2011
Life / Uptight Poles [262]

Which does not in the least change the fact the English name for Kraków is Cracow.
Antek_Stalich   
12 Jun 2011
Life / The Polish Way to Ask Questions [41]

It does not matter. Norwegian homes need heating for 9 months per year and all heating is electric. Therefore, it does not matter if the house is warmed by a heater or by bulbs or by PC. A Norwegian also likes a lot of light to compensate lack of sunshine.

Remaining on topic, Polish indirect questions are the cultural thing and the question about the toilet may be quite different outside Poland. I'm just interested.

Many years ago, I read an article in the Warsaw Voice. The author there asked exactly why Poles cannot simply say "I need a lift, can you help me with that?" and mentioned the toilet question.
Antek_Stalich   
12 Jun 2011
Life / The Polish Way to Ask Questions [41]

Maarysiu, I explicitly asked non-Poles for the answer and for similar situation in their home country, on purpose.

If I asked you whether you turn the light off on exiting a room, you would say "Yes, I do".
A Norwegian would answer: "No, I don't".

OK?
Antek_Stalich   
12 Jun 2011
Life / The Polish Way to Ask Questions [41]

This question should be read:

The question is the cardinal example for the Polish inability to ask direct questions. I read about it many years ago ;-) The direct question would be: "Where can I find the toilet"; and you do not expect guests excrete in the staircase of your house after you have invited them ;)
Antek_Stalich   
12 Jun 2011
Life / The Polish Way to Ask Questions [41]

My wife shot me down with that question yesterday:
-- So, is your friend white the other way? (Czy on jest "biały inaczej"?)
Then we were rolling of laughter for quite a while.
She wanted to ask if he was a Negro, but in the politically correct way, for fun. This is how you avoid asking direct questions! :-D

My daughter as a little kid asked "Are you talking about this hairless mister, Dad?"

Question to all non-Polish people here: Do your compatriots ask this question while at your home:
-- May I use the toilet?

Normally I answer the guest must not use the toilet and I will defend the door to the toilet with my body!
Antek_Stalich   
12 Jun 2011
Life / Uptight Poles [262]

It's like Korea and Corea :)

Come on, Seanus! Korea was not discovered and described in the Middle Ages ;-)

Besides, where was the letter K introduced to the Latin alphabet?
Antek_Stalich   
12 Jun 2011
Food / Borscht - Zurek / Bialy barszcz recipe [153]

What is chemical difference between fermented rye bread and fermented rye flour? I do not deny your words, it's only a question.

P.S. Polonius3: Regardless how your grandma made the white barszcz, white barszcz is made sour with fermented red-beet juice. You can look up any Polish recipe book. I've just done it to make sure, one book being very old and another a new one. Żur is made with fermented rye bread or flour.
Antek_Stalich   
12 Jun 2011
Food / Borscht - Zurek / Bialy barszcz recipe [153]

If i remember correctly there is a difference between barszcz biały and żurek, different flour used

I think the main difference is żurek is made with fermented bread as your Grandma did, so the soup is naturally sour. With barszcz you need to use either vinegar or lemon to make it sour.

Zakwas na żur, made of fermented bread, some raisins...