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Mayonnaise and ketchup in Poland


PennBoy 76 | 2,436
11 Jun 2011 #1
Majonez Kielecki. Best mayonnaise i've ever tasted.



Seanus 15 | 19,706
11 Jun 2011 #2
I second that, Penn. That's a major compliment as I'm a fan of Hellmans too :)
pawian 176 | 14,823
11 Jun 2011 #3
Majonez Kielecki. Best mayonnaise i've ever tasted.

I second that, Penn. That's a major compliment as I'm a fan of Hellmans too :)

Never ever will I buy that stuff again! It stinks and tastes like old socks. :):):)
OP Antek_Stalich 5 | 997
11 Jun 2011 #4
PennBoy! You are my man. Listing three the best Polish condiments (Majonez Kielecki, Pudliszki Ketchup and Kamis Musztarda Rosyjska) shows you know what's the best! Seanus, my wife likes Hellman's. :-)

I have no desire to eat pierogi in summer but they are nice in winter.

Maaarysia mentioned the blueberry pierogi, which are perfect for Summer, with cream and some sugar ;)
Seanus 15 | 19,706
11 Jun 2011 #5
I don't want to gain weight, AS ;)

Hellman's Babuni gives Kielecki a run for its money but Kielecki is distinctive :)
OP Antek_Stalich 5 | 997
11 Jun 2011 #6
We rather prefer Hellman's Classic to Babuni. Hellman's mayonnaises are of very balanced taste and, as you said, Kielecki is very distinctive. I especially like green peas with Kielecki. What I could find out on my travels, the Kielecki's taste is present in many local brands, meaning that it could be the defining taste of Polish mayonnaises.

What do you prefer, Pawian, Winiary?

Ah, Pudliszki Ketchup is one of few, if not only, ones with no starch added.
pawian 176 | 14,823
11 Jun 2011 #7
What do you prefer, Pawian, Winiary?

Yes!

Because it is a little sweet.:

Hellman's mayonnaises are of very balanced taste and,

I once bought it and had to throw it away, it was so salty. But it happened about 10 years ago...
OP Antek_Stalich 5 | 997
11 Jun 2011 #8
The rule is, people who dislike Hellman's or Kielecki choose Winiary :-)
Our local Białuty brand is Kielecki-style, by the way.
strzyga 2 | 993
11 Jun 2011 #9
Winiary

yes!
the only brand that doesn't smell and taste of vinegar.
I hate vinegar.
Zman
12 Jun 2011 #10
Kielecki is locally (warsaw) considered "healthy" as it contains no sugar, I do not sometimes shy away from it. However, the best one, in my opinion, is Winiary - Dekoracyjny. Can't beat that one! Hellmann's is totally unacceptable by comparison, including their lame Babuni version which tried to imitate Dekoracyjny :-).
OP Antek_Stalich 5 | 997
12 Jun 2011 #11
I won't discuss anybody's taste but I will only tell you how comes the Winiary - Dekoracyjny is so thick. You simply use more of vegetable oil and apply a lot of energy to emulsify it.

When I was a university student, I made some imitation of similar mayonnaise by emulsifying a lot of mineral oil in water by so-called ultrasonic disintegrator. The resulting mix looked exactly like the Winiary ;-)

Antek_Stalich: Winiary
yes!
the only brand that doesn't smell and taste of vinegar.
I hate vinegar.

Good point. I like Kielecki just because of vinegar.

With compliments to all expats: Hellmans, Kielecki, Bonduelle, Chleb Zlocisty, Potassium Salt

No zupa ogórkowa today.

Funny thing, the label on Helmann's reads the mayonnaise is made in Poland, and the bar-code reads Holland ;-)
pawian 176 | 14,823
12 Jun 2011 #12
Impostors! Fraud!

I knew Hellman`s is a fake.

Down with Hellmanns`!
Stu 12 | 522
12 Jun 2011 #13
Hellman is owned by Unilever nowadays, hence the Dutch barcode
OP Antek_Stalich 5 | 997
12 Jun 2011 #14
Right, right, Stu, however, there are many products from international companies available here. Once a product has been made in Poland, it is 590 on the bar-code even if this is Coke. I think Hellman's is Dutch made.
pawian 176 | 14,823
12 Jun 2011 #15
Hellman is owned by Unilever nowadays, hence the Dutch barcode

Unilever? Shheet!! These guys produce shavin stuff, among others! No wonder Hellmann`s is so revolting!
OP Antek_Stalich 5 | 997
12 Jun 2011 #16
No wonder Hellmann`s is so revolting!

Admit you are revolted because presumably their mayonnaise is made in Warsaw and all we know what Warsaw is! ;-)

All together!:
A... village... up... north... of...!!!
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The fact is, the label reads: Made by Unilever, Domaniewska, Warszawa and there is no factory over there ;-)
pawian 176 | 14,823
12 Jun 2011 #17
Admit you are revolted because presumably their mayonnaise is made in Warsaw and all we know what Warsaw is! ;-)

Actually, I love Warsaw. :):):) The Indomitable City.
I know I am weird. :):):)
Softsong 5 | 495
12 Jun 2011 #18
Hellman is owned by Unilever nowadays, hence the Dutch barcode

And here's how it started! It's been known as America's favorite mayonnaise, at least on the east coast, especially in the north.

"In 1905, Richard Hellmann from Vetschau, Germany, opened a delicatessen on Columbus Avenue in New York City, where he used his wife's recipe to sell the first ready-made mayonnaise. It became so popular that he began selling it in bulk to other stores. In 1912 he built a factory for producing Mrs. Hellmann's mayonnaise. It was mass marketed and called Hellmann's Blue Ribbon Mayonnaise. It was so successful, Hellmann closed his delicatessen by 1917 to devote full time to his mayonnaise business".

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellmann's_and_Best_Foods
OP Antek_Stalich 5 | 997
12 Jun 2011 #19
This is very interesting, Softie!
By the way, nobody mentioned Heinz. Heinz make perfect ketchup in Poland (I think it is also made in Pudliszki) and their mayonnaise is also good.

I've read labels on Heinz Ketchup and Pudliszki Ketchup. Identical composition, no starch added (which is rare), similar taste, same production site. Probably only different labels ;)
Softsong 5 | 495
12 Jun 2011 #20
This is very interesting, Softie!

Thanks....and I think that Vetschau, Germany is near the Dutch border, so maybe it has come full circle!

When I was in Poland, I loved to browse the isles of the grocery stores. It was interesting to see what brands were the same and what were different. I even took pictures. What a tourist!

I noticed dogfood had BoBo on it. So, I gather that is a popular pooch name.

As for Heinz 57, Americans often use that product to make joke when someone asks what breed is your dog. Well, he's a Heinz 57. For that matter, we often call ourselves a Heinz 57. But, I guess since this is about foods, I'd have to say I'd enjoy Heinz products if I lived in Poland.

By the way, nobody mentioned Heinz.

I wonder if Wildrover is particularly fond of those Heinz beans!
Seanus 15 | 19,706
13 Jun 2011 #21
I think no-one mentioned Heinz because it's not Polish.
peterweg 37 | 2,320
13 Jun 2011 #22
I've read labels on Heinz Ketchup and Pudliszki Ketchup. Identical composition, no starch added (which is rare), similar taste, same production site. Probably only different labels ;)

I doubt it. Heinz are not going to share their product with some local company.

Heinz baked beans are made in Poland and sold in Careforre, if anyone is missing them
OP Antek_Stalich 5 | 997
13 Jun 2011 #23
Polish Pride, peterweg ;-)

heinz.com/our-food/products/pudliszki.aspx

Watch the domain and the product ;)

Both Heinz and Pudliszki Ketchups are made at the same facility in Pudliszki, Poland ;)
Seanus 15 | 19,706
13 Jun 2011 #24
Heinz is British-American. The fact that some offices are here doesn't make it Polish.
OP Antek_Stalich 5 | 997
13 Jun 2011 #25
Seanus, I'm terribly sorry to correct you. Heinz owns the Pudliszki factory and they produce there, both their own brand and the Pudliszki brand.

Besides, they make the HP Sauce (you know that English sauce) in Holland.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
13 Jun 2011 #26
wikipedia.org/wiki/H._J._Heinz_Company

it's an American company, AS. It's HQ is in Pittsburgh.
OP Antek_Stalich 5 | 997
13 Jun 2011 #27
Seanus, please slow down.

Pudliszki S.A. – przetwórnia owocowo-warzywna w Pudliszkach. Obecnie wchodzi w skład amerykańskiej grupy Heinz, która ma w niej pakiet większościowy akcji.

"Presently belonging to the American Heinz group being major shareholder".

I can assure you Heinz produce there.

HP Sauce is a popular brown sauce (steak sauce)[1] by HP Foods, now produced by H.J. Heinz in Elst, the Netherlands, although HP Sauce is still produced in the UK (in Sachet form) at H.J. Heinz's Telford Factory.

Seanus, please... Heard of "globalization"?
Seanus 15 | 19,706
13 Jun 2011 #28
Globalisation, exactly what I wanted to say. An American company decided to go global and share its experience. Pudliszki are the benefactors of American experience. Heinz Ketchup is not a kind of Polish food in origin.
Stu 12 | 522
13 Jun 2011 #29
I think Hellman's is Dutch made.

I doubt it. Calvé, another brand by Unilever, used to have some factories in Delft. They were closed in 2008. Peanut butter went to Rotterdam (if I am not mistaken) and the rest of the sauces to Spain, the Czech Republic and Germany.

and I think that Vetschau

It's actually in the State of Brandenburg, near the Polish border.
OP Antek_Stalich 5 | 997
13 Jun 2011 #30
the Czech Republic

!!!
Stu... I wouldn't be surprised. My weak memory tells me the Czechs used to make excellent mayonnaise and it could be Hellmanns!

Globalisation, exactly what I wanted to say. An American company decided to go global and share its experience. Pudliszki are the benefactors of American experience. Heinz Ketchup is not a kind of Polish food in origin.

Seanus, you are a nice and wise man, making it very hard to me say that you are not always right. Forgive me?

I had been eating the Pudliszki Ketchup long before Heinz set their foot there. Pudliszki Ketchup always tasted perfectly. After Heinz started their production there, two brands are available from Pudliszki: Heinz and Pudliszki. Both are excellent. Not necessarily made in the same production line, and may be different with spice but the declared composition on both products is identical.

Pudliszki factory exists since 1847, making ketchup since 1927. What "experience" are you talking about?

It makes me want to drive to the shop, buy both and give them a blind test ;-)
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Not to concentrate on Ketchup, I will tell you something on Turek camembert cheese (the round one). The original product is Czech, and the name is "Hermelin - Kral Syru" (Hermelin - The King of Cheese). The Polish took the license and started making it just on our side of the border as "Sekret Mnicha" (Monk's Secret), and later the production was moved to Turek. Why "Sekret Mnicha"? The Polish advertisement agency to handle the product campaign believed "Król Serów" would not pass in Poland. So they made the internal contest and "Sekret Mnicha" won. This is a story from my brother-in-law who participated in the campaign himself.

Meaning, if you fry Turek in crumbs, flour and egg, several layers, you'll get the Czech Smazeny Hermelin ;-)


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