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Koala   
17 May 2011
Language / The usage and future of the special Polish letters: ą, ć, ę, ł, ń, ó, ś, ż, ź (Polish language) [203]

Koala - the language undergoes evolution. This is not that Warsaw speaks that way. The Polish Internet speaks that way and it becomes nation-wide. You would be surprised how many new words I learned from Fjasz and Yffan, both from Świebodzin ;-) Especially form Yffan who once was my drummer in a music competition.

I'll buy you a beer if you know how we call 'ziarna słonecznika' in Świebodzin and surroundings if you answer without googling. :P

"Namówiłeś mnie" really means "you convinced me" but this phrase has a special meaning:
-- Napiłbym się piwa...
-- Namówiłeś mnie.

That's a humorous way to say "I'm in", but frankly such phrases to be made up on the fly and do not have permanent meaning.

The fans of Legia Warszawa and Lech Poznań agree to a meeting in a forest called "ustawka".

Yes, but I think it is more often used in terms of online games, I'm doing ustawki with my friends to play Left 4 Dead :P

But I am positive about 'g' before 'ż'.

We don't say it's 'k', we say it's neither 'g' nor 'k'. Unless you pronounce the same sound in 'tygrys' and 'także'
Koala   
16 May 2011
Language / The usage and future of the special Polish letters: ą, ć, ę, ł, ń, ó, ś, ż, ź (Polish language) [203]

Your Polish dries out. Could you tell me the meaning of the word "stylówa"? The current meaning of the phrase "Namówiłeś mnie" and the origin of that? How would you call informal meeting/fight of supporters of two different football teams in a forest? You won't find it in the books.

Stylówa - another Varsovian fugly creation not used in the greener lands of western Poland.
Has "namówiłeś mnie" shifted its meaning recently? It's always been "you convinced me to (...)"
That word is more often use in context of online games. :P
Koala   
16 May 2011
History / Russians 'tortured to death' in Polish camps? [58]

Well...it beats putting whole armies as animals when 90 percent are behaved within the laws....

Even ignoring those 10% who were acting out of their free will, you have mass crimes on the system level. Death camps were organized by the state/army and mass genocides commited on nations of Eastern Europe, our most valuable people were murdered first. Then you have organizations like Bund der Vertriebenen on the forefront of Polish-German relations, repeatedly labeling the German death camps as "Polish camps", the propaganda that only Jews were murdered (though this can be blamed more on Jews) and the subject of WW2 still stirs up a lot of emotions.
Koala   
16 May 2011
History / Russians 'tortured to death' in Polish camps? [58]

The Wiesenthal center itself put the number of criminal axis soldiers at less than 10 percent...which made them the exception not the rule.

Are you kidding me? <10% of people behaving like wild animals is a huge number, <0,1% and we could talk about the army holding some standards.
Koala   
16 May 2011
News / Poland-EU: Positive and negative features? [45]

TBH the distances there are huge though, so it's not really that suprising. We cen't get this stuff right in our tiny country, I can't the nightmare of connecting Russian cities.
Koala   
16 May 2011
Language / The usage and future of the special Polish letters: ą, ć, ę, ł, ń, ó, ś, ż, ź (Polish language) [203]

Whatever linquist say, you neither pronounce "g" nor "k" in także. The sound is indefinite, in between, unstressed. You also not pronounce "jabłko" but "japko", otherwise it resembles old English actors pronouncing the "r" theatrically :-)

Again with your Varsovian dirt. We here definitely do not pronounce it with 'p', though not exactly with "bł" either.

"Garnki" czy "garki"? Odwieczne pytanie...
Koala   
16 May 2011
News / Poland-EU: Positive and negative features? [45]

Just don't come back and complain about bad roads in Russia.

Are they that bad (esp., compared to Polish roads, not German)? I was in Moscow once, but went there by plane and the Moscow ring was quite impressive, but I wasn't further from Moscow.
Koala   
16 May 2011
News / Poland-EU: Positive and negative features? [45]

I wish Ukraine joining the EU.
Still, even without Ukraine in the EU, I can enjoy Ukrainian beer like Obołon, buy Ukrainian "kvas" here, enjoy the pepper and birch Ukrainian vodkas. I'm afraid what happens when Ukraine joins EU ;-)

Where do you live? In the western Poland kwas = LSD

Bratwurst Boy -- the positive side of joining the EU for Poland is constant increase of cigarette prices until they will reach the German level.

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Koala   
16 May 2011
Language / The usage and future of the special Polish letters: ą, ć, ę, ł, ń, ó, ś, ż, ź (Polish language) [203]

Do you though take into consideration dialect or regional, slang pronunciations of Polish words? Not sure eliminating diacritics will necessarily solve the confusion stated. Or maybe I missed the humor somewhereLOL

There is no different slang pronunciation of words though and there are only a few regions where people pronounce stuff differently (actually only one - Podhale... Ślązacy and Kaszubi claim to have different languages :P), it's not an issue!
Koala   
16 May 2011
News / Poland-EU: Positive and negative features? [45]

All these issues are caused by people though, not alcohol itself. I am never aggressive when drunk, never hit any of my ex girlfriends when drunk etc. People who did such things should be punished for it, their wives should leave them.

On top of that, you can't drink in public places in Poland and I don't know why you flipped it into an alcohol vs smoking discussion.

Banning smoking is to patronizing for me

It's banning smoking in public places.
Koala   
16 May 2011
News / Poland-EU: Positive and negative features? [45]

well, following the logic: if you don't want to breathe the smoke, just avoid places where people smoke... smokers have to adjust and non-smokers not?

Quite simple - if that my hobby or other activity causes discomfort or may cause discomfort to other people, at least I should ask if it's OK to do it in their presence or wait until I'm alone altogether.
Koala   
16 May 2011
News / Poland-EU: Positive and negative features? [45]

Not really. I don't care if you smoke at home, as long as I don't have to breathe the smoke.

Poland should definitely not become a model for other countries. Economic growth is still mostly fueled by a cheap workforce.
Koala   
16 May 2011
News / Poland-EU: Positive and negative features? [45]

I don't. If smoking becomes a necessary physiological activity for you, you are the one who screwed yourself, not anyone else. You should not make others suffer because of that.
Koala   
15 May 2011
Language / Adjective endings and masculine-personal in the Polish language [22]

I thought about the issue and came to the following conclusion:
Chcieć goes with dopełniacz if you could swap any of the following words and the meaning would remain unchanged: pragnąć/żądać/życzyć sobie etc. (basically what the rule above states)

However, there might some phrases that are implied, but are not actually spoken/written and if the implied phrases go with biernik, then going with biernik is also correct.

I'll take your above example. I'll insert implied phrases in square brackets [ ]
Pani chce czysty sklep. <- It might imply that she wants to possess a clean shop:
Pani chce [kupić] czysty sklep.
Pani chce [mieć] czysty sklep. etc.

Pani chce czystego sklepu. <- this grammar construction might imply that she already possesses a shop and wants it to be clean. It'd be equivalent to:

Pani życzy sobie postrzątania sklepu.

Other examples:
Czy chcesz [więcej] tortu? [genitive/dopełniacz]
Dziewczynka chce [zjeść] czekoladę. [accusative/biernik]
Czy chciałaby pani [napić się] herbaty? [genitive/dopełniacz]
Chciałabym [napić się] soku pomarańczowego. [genitive/dopełniacz]

I hope this helps a little bit. :)
Koala   
14 May 2011
News / EU tribunal overrules Polish name contest in Lithuania [150]

French invasion on Germany? I thought you were somewhat serious, but now I see you're more of a joke character here. No one would call a single provocative strike an invasion. On September 12 1939 both UK and France decided not to invade Germany that year and to wait instead. And no, I won't play an armchair strategist and make detailed plans of the allies' invasion, it was possible for them to gather sufficient forces to overwhelm Germans in the west and stop the war right in its tracks.

Poland might still have ceased to exist, but that's another matter.

next off topic post earns a timeout
Koala   
14 May 2011
News / EU tribunal overrules Polish name contest in Lithuania [150]

Almost all German resources were tied up in Poland. It's a huge distance from western Poland to western Germany, by the time they'd regroup they'd lose a lot of strategic points, German war machine wasn't in full throttle yet in 1939, they wouldn't be able to sustain both fronts then - keep in mind that the Ruhr region (the biggest industrial region) would be instantly in allied hands, they weren't receiving oil and gas from Norway etc. Germany wasn't prepared to fight on both fronts, luckil;y for them, they didn't have to.
Koala   
14 May 2011
News / EU tribunal overrules Polish name contest in Lithuania [150]

Poland is the most yellow on that map = we are the purest race in the world LOL

I never threw personal insults towards you or anybody else here. Stop making **** up. You have clear anti-Polish bias though, seeing how you spin absolutely everything concerning Poland in a negative way.

UK could have done a lot more than they have. First of all, they could have encouranged France to actually fullfil their obligation and launch invasion on Germany. Western Germany was pretty much undefended, Berlin would have been reached in 2 weeks most likely. Then, support France with logistically (food, fuel) and military (send those few divisions they had, concentrate navy on around bigger German ports etc.). You won't tell me these things could not have been done and in retrospective that a lot of people, time and resources wouldn't be saved. The war would be over in 1939, but what happened cannot be undone.
Koala   
14 May 2011
Language / Adjective endings and masculine-personal in the Polish language [22]

I won't discuss your code, but I'm pretty sure this result is not correct.

Pani chce czysty sklep.

Chcieć goes with dopełniacz (kogo? czego?) and the correct sentence would be:
Pani chce czystego sklepu.
Otherise everything seems fine. Nice sentence generator :)

Scratch that I'm not sure anymore. I think chcieć can go both with dopełniacz and biernik, nie chcieć goes with dopełniacz only though.
Koala   
14 May 2011
News / EU tribunal overrules Polish name contest in Lithuania [150]

I guess this Poland didn't like and used its usual low-blow tactics.

It was a Soviet-Lithuanian treaty. Soviets captured Polish territory, gave it to Lithuanians. Soviets lose the war, Poland naturally wants to regain all its territories prior to the war. Lithuania, as an ally to the side that lost the war, should give back the territory. It's that simple. You can't appear on a war theater, capture a territory and claim to be neutral in that war.

So you mean that Poland deliberately lied when signing a treaty. Cool, kindly never again complain about Britain and Poland in relation to WWII, even if Britain betrayed Poland (which she did not), it was just a machiavellian scheme, that's all there is to it. And what is OK for Poland is OK for the UK.

Better to lie and minimize bloodshed than to have a full blown war.
And yes, UK betrayed Poland. Article one of the Polish-UK agreement:
"Should one of the Contracting Parties become engaged in hostilities with a European Power in consequence of aggression by the latter against that Contracting Party, the other Contracting Party will at once give the Contracting Party engaged in hostilities all the support and assistance in its power."

Is dropping leaflets over German cities all UK could muster at the time? I don't think so.
France neglected their obligations even further at they were supposed to launch offensive on German territory within two weeks of German aggression on Poland.