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Palivec   
2 Jun 2011
History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]

There's more but whats the point? Palivec is not interested in an answer.

Oh, I received the answer I expected... and it looks like no one here should ever complain again if some Western European, especially German, describes Poles as culturally backward and inferor. :D
Palivec   
7 Jun 2011
Food / Polish Pizza !! The best in the world? [329]

Polish pizza is soooooooooooo the best pizza in the world, the ones from glogow are the best ever !!!

Wasn't Pizza invented in Poland? I've heard it was originally called Picszta? Same as Sushi, which the Poles invented as Szsusczi.
Palivec   
8 Jun 2011
History / Poland: Her heroes and her traitors [214]

Add the Silesian Piasts to the list of traitors, which not only preferred Bohemia over Poland but also became Germanised...
Palivec   
9 Jun 2011
History / German Traitor And Polish Pig [96]

You probably won't believe this, but before 1945 Germans from Silesia were Silesians. Shocking, I know...
Palivec   
9 Jun 2011
History / German Traitor And Polish Pig [96]

Yes, a culture that developed at the intersection between the Polish, German and Czech culture is the same as American natives, lol.
Todays Silesians are simply the rest of a cultural-historical process in Silesia that was eradicated after 1945.
Palivec   
10 Jun 2011
History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]

Then after partitions, this multicultural city was germanised. I think it is just that it is Poland again.

I see Commie propaganda is still popular in parts of the world... :D
Palivec   
10 Jun 2011
History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]

maybe You would like to tell me where I am wrong?

Your argument is wrong. No modern nation state can claim a city, region or country because some twat from the Middle Ages owned it once. That's just 19th century nationalism. The right of self-determination is the basis of our legal system.

And you are wrong on some other things too:

Poland was tolerant so let Germans settle there

Only the city itself decided who settled inside the city walls. Part of the great privilege.

it was defended by Polish army

The city had an army itself, also part of the great privilege.

the taxes were going to the Polish crown.

The city was freed of all taxes in the great privilege and could raise their own taxes.

Then after partitions, this multicultural city was germanised

Has nothing to do with Poland or Germany but with the upcoming nationalism of the 19th century, which threatened minorities everywhere in Europe.

Not true. The military, postal system and railway transport were Polish. Same as big deal of inhabitants. The defence of Westerplatte and of Poczta Główna in 1939 resulted from exactly those roles in the Wolne Miasto Gdańsk.

Population in 1923:
Germans 327.827
Polish and Cashubian: 6.788
German and Cashubian: 1.108
Russians: 99
Jewish: 22
Palivec   
10 Jun 2011
History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]

so how You determine the boarders?isnt it by history and self determination?

By asking the people, how it was done in Upper Silesia and Masuria when Poland was re-established.

minorities were threated long before 19 century, if for example the city rebelled-minorities were punished much more severely,and I was not pointing out whose fault it was, simply stating the facts.

And I simply answered to your remark that multicultural Danzig ceased to exist when Prussia took over the town. Which isn't even true, since Prussia was also a multicultural state.

and the privileges were given by who????

Doesn't matter in this case, since the city could have decided to allow only Germans to settle in the town. So, the decision to be multicutural wasn't a Polish but a civic feat.

No mister your argument is wrong because case of Gdansk is not about the Middle Ages. It is about the fact that Gdansk was an important royal city in the long history of Kingdom of Poland well into the XVIII century.

The royal city is another PR stunt blown way out of proportion. The Polish king was "allowed" to stay in the city for three days a year. How royal is that?

And again: the legal basis for territorial claims in our times is the self-determination of the people. Not Polish people in Krakow or Warsaw could have decided over the fate of Gdansk/Danzig but only the inhabitants of the city itself. But interestingly they weren't asked when Poland was re-established after WW1, whereas in all other disputed regions plebiscites took place.
Palivec   
10 Jun 2011
History / German Traitor And Polish Pig [96]

For now, as I said, we have a different relationship with modern day Germany, and every sane person would wish for it to prosper, however definitely being careful and alert - not to forget past experiences on how the German mind works. They historically have less emotions and more machines in themselves.

You know, for some of who are living in USA or really disillusioned ... they will not understand how the German nation really went into a complete Supremacist mode ... . Its almost as though they want to remove or erase the idea. It is like denying there ever was a holocaust. Its like kicking all those graves of people killed or tortured to death ... all those families ruined, all those women who were raped. People who were humiliated ...

You should travel a bit more. Maybe read some books and hear some music too. Trust me.
Palivec   
11 Jun 2011
History / German Traitor And Polish Pig [96]

Most of the plethora of races in Germany are folks from Europe who can't wait to come to live and work here...

Calm down, read some fairy tales from the Grimm brother, listen to some Bach music, make a day trip to a baroque wonder like the Wies church or to a museum to see some paintings from Friedrich or Carus, .... and realise that your less human, mechanical animals gave quite a lot of deeply emotional works of art to the world... much more than some other nations in the neighbourhood. ;)
Palivec   
12 Jun 2011
Life / What is the reason for POLISH jokes ? [486]

This thread is about POLISH jokes. You are off-topic.

OK.
What is a Polish triathlon?
Walking to a lake, swimming a round, cycling back home.
Palivec   
13 Jun 2011
History / German Traitor And Polish Pig [96]

..NOT BOTH! Firstly - they have to go to work there (econmic reasons) because their countries are still recovering from mindless German destruction and communist regression and were not rebuilt by the allies so they could pay for their sins yada yada ... and secondly - one of the unfortunate side effects of working far away is that you have to live there aswell. Can't have everything.

They are free to go to Italy, France, GB, the BeNeLux or Skandinavia...
Moreover the majority of immigrants in Germany never suffered from "mindless German destruction and communist regression".
... it must suck when all these nice little victim theories don't work. :D
Palivec   
15 Jun 2011
History / The Greatest King of Poland? [117]

He saved the Austrians from them and look how they repaid Poland in spades.

Austria paid 500.000 Reichsthaler to Poland. This wasn't enough?
And he saved the Austrians? He provided the smaller force in a coalition army raised by the pope, where the king of Poland was the commander since he was the highest ranking participant.
Palivec   
15 Jun 2011
History / The Greatest King of Poland? [117]

Ingratitude? Poland and Austria signed a treaty. Poland provided military support, Austria paid for it. They were even. It's as simple as that... at least outside of Poland. And Poland didn't save Austria, since the Polish military contingent was the smaller one in a coalition army.
Palivec   
15 Jun 2011
History / The Greatest King of Poland? [117]

You mean in a battle against 100.000 Turks 20.000 Poles won the battle?
But yes, in Vienna you can find a monument to the Ukrainian cossacks, even in Cyrillic, to remember the "Polish" troops. :D
Palivec   
15 Jun 2011
History / The Greatest King of Poland? [117]

I love it when history becomes a fairy tale full of dragons, knights in shiny armour and evil villains. :D
Palivec   
15 Jun 2011
History / The Greatest King of Poland? [117]

No they were not even an no the treaty did not oblige Poland to go in full force, Poland could for example send a 1000 infantry and thats it, the point is Poland saved the existence of Austria and Austria took part in destruction of Poland less than a hundred years later.

The treaty defined that Poland and the HRE should support each other with 60.000 (HRE) and 40.000 (Poland) troups in case the Turks would attack Krakow or Vienna. Both parties couldn't provide enough troops since the time was too short, and the HRE fought against France, which attacked the HRE at the same time.

The treaty moreover defined that Austria had to pay 500.000 Reichthaler to Poland and take over all Polish debts from the war against Sweden... and that was 6 month before the battle of Vienna.

Read the history books there were no dragons, nor were there evil villians at the Battle of Vienna, but there was Sobieski and his winged hussars which the Tartars and Turks knew, and feared, and fled from.

They fled after the combined cavalry attacked the Turks.

No, against Turks approximately 8000 Poles won the battle since thats how much heavy cavalry was there, in the space of under half an hour in 3 charges they killed and wounded over 15.000 men, scattered the turkish centre, killed almost all HQ officers, destroyed the camp and artillery.

Oh, did they count the Turks killed by Poles separately? You know, since the combined cavalry attacked the Turks and not the Poles alone. And the HRE provided 20.000 troops of cavalry.

The German forces fought without effect for hours, the Poles took about 45 minutes to break the back of the army, Poles not only did most of the fighting but all of the winning.

The German troops you mention were mostly light infantry, the heavy cavalry of 20.000 troops you mentioned comprised of both Polish and troops of the HRE, and the Turks collapsed after both flanks attacked.
Palivec   
16 Jun 2011
History / So called "inconvenient parts" of Polish history - what do you think? [156]

The Polish trait of denying everything, even in the face of overwhelming evidence, has a lot to answer for.

Same reason the Russians get roundly mocked by those in the West - same absolute inability to accept responsibility.

Heck, even Serbs and Croats are dreadful for this. Maybe it's just a Slavic thing?

Not really a Slavic thing, more a thing of Eastern European nations. Many of these nations didn't exist for along time since they were part of Austria, Prussia or Poland; and later, when these nations were reestablished, they became satellite states of the Soviet Union. All this time nationalism was needed for self-assertion. In Western Europe however this kind of 19th century nationalism was countered with the establishment of the European Union after WW2, and these close contacts with other nations helped to push back nationalism. That's why Western Europeans often feel somewhat alienated when talking to Eastern Europeans, since they can't relate to this rhetoric anymore.
Palivec   
16 Jun 2011
Life / Are Polish roads really this bad? [237]

And who bombed the roads to bits...?

You mean, otherwise we would drive on 80yo roads today???

Back to topic: the roads aren't that bad. Polands biggest problem is the lack of highways, which makes long distance drives a torture, especially because of reckless driving.
Palivec   
16 Jun 2011
News / Visegrad Battle Group under the command of Poland [261]

Would be nice to see visegrad 4 develop not only into military and security alliance, but maybe also an independant union or commonwealth allow free trade and free travel for citizens... I think this would benefit all countries involved and free them from economic dependance on EU and NATO. This should also be an economic partnershp is what i'm trying to say.

What? These countries already enjoy free trade and travel?!
Palivec   
18 Jun 2011
Language / Why when spelling Polish names abroad, Polish letters are ignored? [68]

Poles polonize only names which are:

senat.gov.pl/k5/kom/kksp/2002/014ksp.htm

Here you have a nice example of a new Polonization. The house of Schaffgotsch, a German noble family from Silesia, becomes "Szawgocz". In a official document of the Polish senat. I don't think there is a long record of a Plonized spelling, since these nobles were unimportant to Poland... until 1945.
Palivec   
22 Jun 2011
Life / What is the reason for POLISH jokes ? [486]

Who is she ? You can publish a book even under a nick name . She is just another jewish xenophobe .

LOL, but you realise that the Xenophobe guides make fun of almost every nation? Reactions like yours just show why the Polish jokes exist. Don't take yourself so seriously.

The Xenophobe's Guide to the Poles:

https://books.google.com/books?id=QwSvmPRT4agC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Xenophobe+guide+poles&hl=en&ei=oaABToXaDojYsgbK0bizDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result
Palivec   
22 Jun 2011
News / Germany provoke Poland using Silesian question. Poland's attitude ? [124]

There are rumors that Germany using Silasian question to work against Poland. If that is correct, i ask- what is the stance of Poland? How would Polish politics respond?

Only full scale war with Polands strongest ally, Serbia, can be the answer... :D
Palivec   
23 Jun 2011
Life / What is the reason for POLISH jokes ? [486]

At the current state of matters the answer is simple: JUDENS

Every single attack in US TV can be traced back to it Jewish writers/founders/creators/executive producers etc.

Latest example?

Two and a half men show. Created and produced by Chuck Lorre or better known by Chuck Levy.

But they drink Wernesgruener in the show, a German beer. It must be a German-Jewish conspiracy... uhh, wait. :D
Palivec   
24 Jun 2011
News / Germany provoke Poland using Silesian question. Poland's attitude ? [124]

What can you make out of the name Spirro, one of early settler family there, living in Silesia to this day?

Actually not everyone went to Silesia, it were mostly Slavs and later Germans. Todays Silesians are just unique because they live in the region were Pole, Czech and German culture met. This small region was Slavic, became Polonized, then Germanized, then Polonized again, then Czechified (during the Hussite era), Germanized and Polonized at the same time... it is a huge historic mess, lol. And todays Silesians are the result.

And this also means that everyone who was shaped by the complicated history of Silesia is a Silesian. Everyone who accepts Silesia as it is, with the Polish, German, Bohemian, Austrian and Prussian past, is a Silesian. And that's why todays Silesians are so unique. Unlike most other inhabitants of modern Silesia they accept every part of Silesia, not some selective fragments. This makes them truly Silesian, while the others are just people living in Silesia.