Life / Who's Leaving Poland? [138]


The quality of life is excellent if you have the money, a lot of our foreign friends living in Poland would be living like paupers if they remain in there own country. Hospital and Health services for the rich is not a problem, One thing is lacking in Poland is organisations who would get things moving in Poland, ie a group of real estate agents who would put pressure on the government to change all the red tape associated with real estate transactions. People like you should be involved in politics especially local government, there is a real need to change all the bureaucracy, Poland needs to adopt a more self regulated system. The days of making a quick buck is well and truly over, you now have to work for it, Poland is still a good place to give it a go.

Life / Who's Leaving Poland? [138]


Pip they say that if you haven't made home in your first 2 years you never will, returning to Canada will even be worse as a lot of water has passed under the bridge in that time and everything is different, best make the best of Poland... Good Luck


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News / Polish prosecutor 'shoots self after news conference' [93]


Now thats a tall comment Mr D... do you know something we don't...to me its another sign of corruption and as always the mighty dollar lurking in the background...

News / Polish prosecutor 'shoots self after news conference' [93]

[quote=delphiandomine]Suicide (in their minds) might very well be better than being sacked in disgrace.
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He should have come out and told the truth, he would then become a national hero..

News / Polish prosecutor 'shoots self after news conference' [93]


D when you see the video and hear his introduction its a pretty poor reflection of what is truth, to me he was saying that he was loyal to the military and wasn't going to say anything bad...Polish people would prefer to know the truth..I suppose being loyal is the price you pay when you have higher rank in the military.

Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]


Assuming that your flat is now worth 350,000zl and thats a big IF... 200,000zl over a 11 year period is nothing to write home about. (I wonder how much the tax man got and other costs not to mention the stress factor)

Real Estate / Foreign investor, properties in Poland, walk away from mortgages? [209]


Who has given you advice about the value of your apartment? first time I've come across somebody in this situation. Where is your property?

Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]


D thats a pretty harsh comment to make, to be honest I agree with cms, if you don't live in Warsaw you going to firstly find it hard to get a high paying job and most of Poland is made up of small towns, if a couple could muster up say 4000zl a month, take out living costs, rent etc and I doubt if you would have much change. To borrow 300,000zl would be a suicidal as monthly repayments would be in the range of 3000zl. All said and done why is there so much obsession about home ownership as people in other countries rent, take Germans for example.

Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]

[quote=delphiandomine]Exactly. As it stands - the nephew can give Babcia a small amount of cash, she can buy the flat - and the nephew can sell it for a handsome profit once Babcia dies. An utter joke in every sense of the word - especially with young people struggling to buy accommodation. I have no issue with Babcia staying there, but when she goes, the flat should return to the State - and - crucially - be awarded not only on the basis of need, but also the basis of deserving.

Mr D, firstly you have a very simplistic opinion view on housing problems in Poland, secondly your belief of state control smell of returning to the bad days of the 50's. Babcia purchased her property at market value of that time, to Westerners this was peanuts. The real problem with the price of homes is the fact that people from the West (people like yourself) bought properties at inflated prices and these prices have set a bench mark, in reality this bench mark is artificial and unrealistic as compared to average wages, this also reflects the high price of renting. Poles for a generation were forced to rent from the state and now want to be home owners overnight, this is not going to happen, it will take a generation to advance from renting to owning and Poles need to take a reality pill to get to grips with this. Germany has a high percentage of people who rent. May I suggest people start with the purchase of a small apartment and then think about upgrading if and when they can afford it. The more people from the west enter the Polish Real Estate market the harder it will be for locals to purchase housing.

Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]


Mr D, thanks for your comments but I beg to differ on many points, firstly my auntie was offered a flat approx 35sq metres in the main street, of Gdnia, she showed me the paper work and I'm almost certain it was for 970 US dollars, that was in the early 80's, the place is probably now worth approximately 350,000 zl... The only way she was able to buy the flat was to ask a relative who was living overseas, In the 80's Poland was in dire need of US currency, you may remember that when a person was visiting Poland he would have to pay up front US dollars for every day he has in the country, he would in turn receive 35/60 zlote for one US dollar, as he entered Poland he has harassed by money traders who would offer him 400/600 zlote for one US dollar, Drunks would approach you to change 1 dollar so they could go to the Pewex Shop and buy vodka, which was cheaper in that store than in a Polish Shop for zlote (the cost was 1 dollar for half a litre) Now the point I was making is that most Poles could not afford to pay a high price for a flat so 970$ seemed to form a bench mark, remember foreigners were not allowed to buy real estate etc. So please don't say local Poles got flats for peanuts, must couldn't afford to pay for them anyhow. Remember also that the local authorities had no money to maintain these flats so it was in there best interest to give them back to the public. One other point is that those flats which hold thousands of people are in fact worth nothing as it has no real estate value (minimal) and all they worth is a few bricks and a few windows.

Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]

Well Mr D where do I start, firstly you reasoning is that of those snotty nosed communists who governed Poland in the 70's, only a small percentage of people can do well in Poland that's why so many people went to the west for a better lifestyle, one of the benefits of living in a democratic country is that people can survive on a basic wage without the need to work overtime, you may want to work all day and night but don't impose this on other people who want to have a quality lifestyle. One of the main reason why you were successful (and others moving to Poland) was the fact that you were able to use saved income as opposed to the average pole who struggle week by week to make ends meet and had nothing. Secondly Mr D to understand the housing market in Poland you need to know what happened in Poland in the 80's and post communist times. You say poles had a lot of zlote but had nothing to spend it on, some poles had money, most had nothing. You also forget the pewex stores where everything was available, interesting enough the zlote is still worthless outside of Poland. You don't understand that the US dollar was the de facto currency in Poland in those times, 2 rates of payments for locals and ones from people from the west for example if you stayed at a hotel a local would pay in zlote and a tourist in US dollars, this would translate in a local paying 1$ a night to a tourist paying 100$.

D its sometimes very hard for a person with a full stomach, cigar in one hand and a fist load of dollars in the other understand the plight of somebody who has nothing.

Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]


news to me, please explain?