News / Should Poland leave the EU institution? [147]


trade in what? China is the new player in this field who will trade in anything. The big issue is that Poland will have to repay its debts and thats the catch 22 situation, this would leave Poland bankrupt and a new Greece.

Law / How deep is the Gloom in the Poland's Economy [84]

Sorry but I think this post is not for you, you don't have to be a Rhodes Scolar to work out that France/Italy/Germany are in dire trouble. I don't think Poland is buried in gold. Please refer to the IMF home page for forcast.

Law / How deep is the Gloom in the Poland's Economy [84]


This post is not for you, The current state of the economic crisis is nothing to be laughed at, look at the IMF predictions and then make valid comments

Furthermore, Poland's economy is the only one in EU that continued to grow from 2009 to 2010 (source: Wikipedia)

We are talking about 2012

Law / How deep is the Gloom in the Poland's Economy [84]

Thanks for responding Pawian, it would be good if you stopped attacking the messenger and start giving examples/facts, my interest in this topic refers to a IMF global forecast and a article in thenews.pl/1/12/Artykul/54175,Budget-shortfall-for-2012 I think forum members are pretty much switched on and aware of articles on the global financial crisis. Lets not live amongst the fairies and assume Poland will not be effected in a second downturn, the question I was trying to pose is how it will effect people in various industries, my particular interest is the building sector. my mention of trolls was tongue in cheek, sorry but sometimes people have there own agenda, its a serious topic.

Law / How deep is the Gloom in the Poland's Economy [84]

Thanks for your comment Mr D, how will this effect building cost, ie people wanting to build? How long will people sit when they are facing a huge mortgage? This could suggest price of real estate coming down. As I have stated in previous post, I believe that real estate in Poland has not gone up in the last 2 years, but still cheap for people living in the west. The biggest problem is the red tape when wanting to do something.

Travel / Poland in photo riddles [3134]


a Jelcz bus!

Law / How deep is the Gloom in the Poland's Economy [84]


I've never seen a house/apartment for this price, Poles would love to have a large free standing house, but know that could not afford it, both to build and maintain. Thanks for your view, but you seem to be all over the place, firstly a house is only worth what somebody is prepared to pay and secondly in a major economic downturn all rules of investment go out the window. Just look at the American situation people borrowed to buy mac mansions and almost overnight the price of their investments fell by half and secondly no one wanted to buy into a sick housing market, these well off people were forced to walk away and ended up living in cars at local parks. I know the situation in Poland is different but one thing is for sure if there is a second economical downturn people will be forced to sell at rock bottom prices. Poland seems to be going well but who knows, how is it going to pay for major reforms and pay retirement pensions. Has somebody done a audit on the state of Polands finances?

The cost of building you say is up to 6000zl a metre, (seems very) I wonder what the real cost is or are these inflated by the builders.

I like your last comment that your only care for my Polish family and friends, sounds nice but that type of thinking is negative and could easily be your undoing.

Real Estate / Cost to build in Eastern Poland - Ideally per m2 [71]


Not as bad as it was many years ago Mr D, don't forget people built there own homes on cheap labour (few bottles of vodka) and sometimes used stolen materials etc. Things have tightened up especially with regard to getting permits and inspections. I wonder how construction companies arrive at a figure of 5000zl a metre, not withstanding it takes a average person 2 months to get this sort of money.

Law / How deep is the Gloom in the Poland's Economy [84]


sounds like doom and gloom when building in Poland, however if you divide the costs into 13 its not that bad? the fact remains people never lay foundations in the winter, its done in summer, leave for 1 years to allow the earth to settle and think about buildling in the 2/3 yr.. I know getting permission to build is a nightmare, if one neighbour objects it can really put a spanner in the works, I'm going through a paper warfare with my miasto, its 13months and still counting, I predict it will take me 4 years to complete my project. The easy way is to bribe people, but I'm not prepared to do so. Don't doubt what you are saying, but I sense things are getting better and this sick communist mentality is disappearing, or maybe not!

Real Estate / Cost to build in Eastern Poland - Ideally per m2 [71]


thats sums it up, yeah....what do you call a shark though???

News / Europeén Union will finance the 2nd Warsaw metro line. Good news. [60]


Who is paying for it and is it a loan?

News / Europeén Union will finance the 2nd Warsaw metro line. Good news. [60]

Mr D, Buddy, friend, can I just take you aside and just say slow down and relax, drown your first glass of vodka, people are entitled to have a point of view as people welcome your point of view. Can I just say nice to get a new metro line especially if you get it for nothing, what a windfall joining the EU.. wow.

History / An American studying medicine in the PRL 1978-1985: my story [142]


excellent story, this has not changed in Poland except it is not so blatant, its replaced by the line that I have no money to buy my medications!

Law / How deep is the Gloom in the Poland's Economy [84]

Not doubting Mr D, but its strange that the EU is having trouble keeping some EU countries afloat and it has this sort of money to give free of chargeto Poland etc.. somehow me thinks something will have to give! Who is providing the money or is it being loaned by China?

Law / How deep is the Gloom in the Poland's Economy [84]


Have to use your communication skills to get these people back on track. I don't think the EU has a bucket load of funds to give away, notwithstanding the crisis facing some of the EU countries. When Poland slips into recession these people like Mr D will still be in denial., I hope not.

News / "Shale Gas Revolution" will make Poland a Leading Country in Europe! [202]

Interesting enough the Germans want a ban on shale gas extraction, or at least want a public hearing on the matter, I suppose when they buy/reclaim Poland they will have it on its own.

Life / Looking to immigrate to Europe. How is life in Poland? [116]

Anandi, just my two bobs worth, a lot of the comments from forum members is pretty good, but sometimes when you fall in love with a place immediately its a bad sign, to really enjoy Poland its a very slow gradual process, ie you don't really like it but it grows on you. I can understand that leaving a place like SA any place is great, but what will you do in Poland and how is your kasa, how much money do you have? What are the prospects of getting a job, Jobs in Poland or good jobs in Poland are rare, most jobs are low paid and be aware of the hidden crime rate in Poland, many new comers to Poland have been caught with their pants down so to speak, and please never trust anyone with your money, seek professional and independent advice.. good luck for now. Have you been to Praque?

News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]

[quote=pgtx]about promises.. in 2008, Kaczynski "promised" to leave the scene if his party doesn't win the 2011 elections...

Who cares what he does, and people can change there mind, the sad fact remains that only a very small percentage of the population voted....I don't think the election result reflect a accurate picture..

News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]


Its not a small percentage Mr D but a very small perecentage...less than 1 in 2 bothered to vote!!!! what a democracy... lol

News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]

In most democratic countries voting is compulsory, you should stop making up the rules as you go along...its time for a reality check and realise that most Poles are not even bothered...why should outsiders like you even bother...

Life / Looking to immigrate to Europe. How is life in Poland? [116]

Seanus take the top of the class for your comments, I tend to agree, but remember that its horses for courses, some people are doing very well thank your very much but they are of the minority, interesting enough that bloke that got 10% of the vote, I would love to know his claim of fame, part owner of polmos and ex communist thug I suppose!! How did he get his hands on polmos probally purchased at a fire sale from the ones in the know in government. One thing is absolutely clear Poland is NO place for young people thinking of a career path (may be OK if living in Warsaw). People returinng to retire in Poland with a nest egg, its still very attractive. One thing people who have not lived in Poland have not experienced is the red tape around everything you do, especially in business. A person on 3000zl a month will never be able to afford to build, whats changed hmmm nothing I suppose they couldn't afford to build under the communist system...

Law / Not earning yet but spending from previously earned money and other Poland tax issues [22]


Sorry Mr D have to challenge you with this one, my understanding is that if where you come from a country which has a taxation agreement with Poland you do not pay tax unless the money earned was derived from Poland, the agreement is such that a person should not be taxed twice... are you telling me that tourist have to pay income tax

Life / Looking to immigrate to Europe. How is life in Poland? [116]


yeah the lucky few, the rest do labouring type work and have higher education....

Law / Not earning yet but spending from previously earned money and other Poland tax issues [22]


I don't think Mr B would accept a free kotlet, your comments only fuel more confusion, How is the tax office going to know where the money comes from, besides its his money and tax has been paid....

Law / Not earning yet but spending from previously earned money and other Poland tax issues [22]

[quote=hythorn]you ought to declare that income, the fact that I paid tax on it is irrelevent
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its a gift not income.....

Law / Not earning yet but spending from previously earned money and other Poland tax issues [22]

Don't confuse fringe benefits like a company car/rent etc, this forms income, but giving somebody a few hundred zlote, fair crack of the whip, get serious will you...what happens to a person working in the UK and transfers his money to a Polish Bank, has he to pay more tax,, don't think so.

Law / Not earning yet but spending from previously earned money and other Poland tax issues [22]


we are not talking about million dollar transactions hmm, you may want to read this link: krakow-info/taxes.htm

Law / Not earning yet but spending from previously earned money and other Poland tax issues [22]

Best to seek professional advice on this one, I was only trying to highlight the double tax rules, ie a person living in Poland receiving a pension from the UK say is taxed in the UK, he cannot be taxed again in Poland.... A person transferring money to a Polish bank account from the UK cannot be taxed on that amount, it has already been taxed..if it were otherwise nobody would bother relocating..... you should read the tax agreement between Poland and the country you come from..

UK, Ireland / Getting the most from my hard earned money (transfer money from England to Poland) [41]


Mr D how many times do I have to tell you that if you have paid tax in GB and transfer money you cannot be taxed again, stop this nonsense about telling people to tell the polish tax authorities about money transfers....If the money was earned in Poland he would have to inform the tax authorities in the usial form....pls stop giving wrong information to people...