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Midas   
20 Mar 2011
Love / In 2009 nearly 4000 Poles married a foreigner [170]

Except that these are marriages conducted in Poland and not Ireland or the UK......., So hardly a mission accomplished than is it?

Fail to see Your point...

Many times I've encountered the people we are talking about "flying off to Poland for the wedding". It's most likely cheaper and what better way for the girls to show off their "life's accomplishment"? :-)
Midas   
20 Mar 2011
Love / In 2009 nearly 4000 Poles married a foreigner [170]

Please re-read what I wrote because you seem to have misinterpreted me.

0) Let's not get the racial issues involved in this, ok? The stats provided deal purely with nationality.

1) I didn't write in this post that Polish women are money-hungry ( though yes, I do believe Polish women to be statistically more likely to "more materialistic" than, shall we say, British women ).

2) All I wrote is that for a visible number of Polish ( and other Eastern European ) women marrying a foreigner seems to be a life goal in itself. Then they come back to Poland "showing off" their foreigner like he's some prize bull or something in front of their high school female friends at the "wesele's", family banquets and whatnot. And many of these high school female friends, aunties and whoever go completely jealous: "She married an Englishman, she's set for life, blah, blah, blah"

I could probably understand this mentality in the 70's or 80's when the country was a complete communist craphole and an average foreigner on minimum wage in UK made 5 times the Polish annual salary. Or maybe in the 90's when nobody really knew which direction Poland was heading ( think Yugoslavia ), but in the 21st century with Poland in the EU it really borders on the ridiculous. Now unless we're talking about the warzones of Africa such mentality in women is really difficult to find elsewhere.

Now I dunno if that is still the case with the Polish 20-something crowd, it sure as hell is with many girls in their 30's or 40's. Must be the upbringing. That and communism.

3) Regarding Ireland I have it on good authority that many matches made in heaven, that is ones consisting of a dashing, freshly-rich Irishman and an alluring Polish beauty that jumped off a Ryanair plane two months earlier and just couldn't help but to fall so madly in love fell apart for some mysterious reason when said Irishman's bank account dried up due to the crisis. A secret wrapped in an enigma, I dare say :-)

Now please don't throw the Polish and Irish are much alike argument in my face, it is not supported by the amount of Polish blokes marrying Irish women :-) Unless of course You want to say that this strange compability only works between Irish gents and Polish girls.

Now, since You threw the money issue in there:

4) Jewish girls are rarely hungry for money. They are, however, often materially-conscious BUT they make it known to You if You court them. You'll be frankly told You're not good enough at some point ( usually quite early ).

With Polish women it's not uncommon to find a woman who is pretending to be the next Holy Mary and telling You how she loves You for Your looks/personality/whatever, while in reality she's just counting Your money.

Again - upbringing.

If You disagree with this "materialistic angle" please read about the number of UK's citizens getting pissed off at Polish chicks for getting pregnant in the UK a lot more often than they do in Poland ( Child bennies, yaaay! ). Or about British MP's that recently got mad because a Polish NGO is advocating that Polish women should go over to the UK and have abortions on UK taxpayers' dime.

I guess all I'm saying is Polish women have a reputation for being materialistic because, quite frankly, there's a visible amount of materialistic Polish women that happen to be hypocrites to boot.

5) Given: a) geographic proximity and b) EU passport scams Ukraine is easily explainable :-)
Midas   
20 Mar 2011
Love / In 2009 nearly 4000 Poles married a foreigner [170]

1. So tell me, if a Polish girl or boy (the boy part is always neglected by you) interacts so much with another nationality, will marriages not be more common there?

Well, let's focus on the Irish example yet again. Why in the hell then there isn't a throng of marriages between Polish men and Irish women. I mean, there's a legion of Polish men in Ireland, they must be "interacting" with the local population like crazy. Why there are almost no such marriages?

Hence, as I said, if the amount of Polish women marrying Irish gents wasn't economically driven You'd see the same tendency in Polish male/Irish female marriages. As we can both see - it's not there.

2. You will see that Polish women go out of the box much more than Polish men.

Because Polish men do not see too much of a difference when it comes to female appeal. Polish women like to get into relationships with foreigners much more than Polish men.

Bollocks and unfounded generalisations.

As a matter of fact I've known quite a few Poles, both educated and not so well educated. Surprise, surprise, none of them was the "locked in the box" type of guy who disapproved of "getting into relationships" with foreign chicks. Quite the contrary, a subcontractor of mine in London, Polish - born and raised, a miracle handyman and a very capable organizer who unfortunately spoke somewhat limited English kept telling me ( in Polish since we both spoke it ) how he'd like nothing more than get into the pants of a certain lady we both knew. She happened to be British of noticeable Jamaican origin.

So please quit trying to make Polish guys look like narrow-minded, short-sighted people who don't get into relationships with women of other nationalities because they don't want to. The crux of the matter lies elsewhere.

3. I am sorry to say ( yes, some might claim my focus is economic due to my background ) but it very often comes down to dinero.

The amount of Polish women marrying Irish and English gents is high, because once many Polish ladies make it to Dublin/London first thing they figure they need to do is find themselves a foreigner. Some due to economics, others because they consider every foreigner a "good catch".

Same thing goes for Ukrainian and Russian women once they make it to Poland ( EU ).

4. With your materialistic attitude, you chose the worst Polish woman

Ok, since a personal argument has been used - I don't consider Polish women good material for long term relationships and I have a preference for women with a Jewish background.

With that said, I do regular business in Poland and with Poles in London and I got propositioned by Polish women numerous times, sometimes it's implied, sometimes it's laid bare on the table, often despite said women having a stable partner and a "serious" relationship.

Now I know it will be an unpopular statement here, but IMO this has more to do with my financial status than it has to do with my charm.
Midas   
20 Mar 2011
Love / In 2009 nearly 4000 Poles married a foreigner [170]

Again risking a shitstorm over my head I will agree with southern on the last few sentences.

I've witnessed this system he describes ( one guy for sponsoring that she beds once every blue moon, another for sex that she beds all the time, another guy - the husband - with him she constantly "has a headache", god knows how many else ) at work quite often with some Polish women, usually the girl that does that considers herself the new incarnation of Queen Jadwiga ( acute princess syndrome ) and believes she's special, thus - above reproach.

I'm sorry ladies, that's just what some of Your compatriots do over in the U.K. Women that do this are one of the reasons Polish girls have such a lousy opinion in U.K.
Midas   
20 Mar 2011
Love / In 2009 nearly 4000 Poles married a foreigner [170]

If a guy is hot and attractive he will get a pleasure of being with us at any time any place , he can pay with only a nice smile , but if a guy is delicately saying unattractive , well then money is an issue .

Madam, I'm very glad You posted because You exemplify what I wrote about.

You are quite simply a materialistic girl and there are many other Polish women like You.

It refers not only to UK men . Polish guys are required to meet the same standards

Quite the contrary, a number of Polish women will apply a double standard to Poles and foreigners ( favoring foreigners and considering them "a prize" ).

Unless of course You are talking about applying an equal "economic" standard to a Polish guy that got off the ferry in Dover 2 months ago with 400 quid in his pocket and a Brit whose family has lived in London for two centuries and kept amassing wealth during that period. Because yes, I've seen that done too - a girl considering her Polish boyo that came over to the UK with her a "nieudacznik" because he hasn't managed to amass equal amounts of property in a year as Brits who lived and earned money there for decades ( these she called "real men" who could "take care of a woman" ) :-).

Yeah, I do feel sorry for some Polish guys some time. Then again it's usually their fault for being too good and not realizing that some women have character traits that eliminate going steady with them.
Midas   
20 Mar 2011
USA, Canada / To move back to Poland from the USA or not to move back....that is the question [119]

Hi,

You're lucky You've made it here, most PF users won't BS You around and will tell it like it is.

My 2 cents:

1) For the whole taxation issue You'll have to consult the appropriate binding agreement between Poland and U.S. regarding what's called dual taxation. I also believe what's mentioned in this article will directly apply in Your case:

Personally I never encountered a situation in which someone living strictly of US SSD moved to Poland, so I have no idea how it will be taxed. On one hand, the Polish IRS and ZUS ( Social Security ) are greedy *************, on the other hand U.S. has always had the knack of negotiating with the state of Poland and gaining favourable results for U.S. citizens... You'll have to check for Yourself.

2) ASSUMING Your 1500 USD is left intact and equals the sum You will have monthly at Your disposal You'll be good to go, even in Cracow or Warsaw ( though in both these cities You'll be on a bit of a tight budget ).

3) As was mentioned, a number of Polish people will tell You You're not Polish because You were born in the States and nothing will sway them. Same people tell me I can't be a Polish citizen because I am a Jew. Ignore them.

4) Don't take it for granted that You'll just be able to come over to Poland and live there. While I believe there are no visas required for Americans to visit I don't know if that's the case with a prolonged stay ( You are not an EU citizen ). Explore the matter further.

5) If You have Polish ancestors You might be legible for a Polish passport ( if You don't have one already ). This might save You loads of hassle, look into it.

6) While monetarily You will be fine I STRONGLY ADVISE NOT TO MAKE THE TRIP if You want to take an elderly person ( Your mother ) with You and take care of her over in Poland.

While the U.S. healthcare system has it's flaws, the Polish national healhcare system is a dump, period. Of course, You might "go private". But should Your mother have some serious health problems Your money might not be enough to pay for the costs of private healthcare, I'm being dead serious now.

And the public healthcare system in Poland quite simply has a knack for killing off elderly citizens.

That's all from me, thank You.
Midas   
20 Mar 2011
Love / In 2009 nearly 4000 Poles married a foreigner [170]

Madam, I am sorry, but Your post about "handsome guys paying with a smile" and "ugly guys paying with money" does reek of materialism, to say the least. I don't think it makes You particularly well qualified to judge on moral issues.

Other than that - You are right that my negative opinions about Polish females are most often based on Polish girls from London, although I do get a glimpse or two at how they behave in Poland when I'm in Warsaw, Cracow or Lodz. Still - the fact that they are acting like that in London does not make them any less Polish, right?
Midas   
20 Mar 2011
Love / In 2009 nearly 4000 Poles married a foreigner [170]

My guess is that the divorce procedures are initiated by Polki who go for the bigger boot. - I confirm, it's not that uncommon for a Polish girl to come over to the UK with her Polish hubby, "test the waters" and figure she's not going to "waste her life" with a "loser" who "doesn't even own a flat".

But I seriously doubt a guy who married such a tart didn't notice any signs of materialism prior to tying the knot, so in such cases the guy pretty much got what he deserved for being a naive *****.
Midas   
21 Mar 2011
Love / In 2009 nearly 4000 Poles married a foreigner [170]

Ok, I'll tackle You one at a time:

1. Lodz_the_Boat

Absolutely :) ... I'm a Pole and I'm married to a Korean myself. Its wonderful.

What's even more wonderful is that a page ago You were claiming that Polish guys are these narrow-minded, "locked in a box" types that were "unlikely to date a foreigner" and yet here You are - Polish and married happily to a Korean chick.

You're contradicting yourself big time, sir.

So Midas, your standards to select a Polish girl is Monia?

Nope, Monia just came along to happily blend into a stereotype that's already well in existence, due to what many of her female compatriots are doing from Bristol to Aberdeen.

Do you really think that in a country as big as Poland, all people have the came way of thinking?

Nope, I'm not southern. I do believe that there are people with diverse character traits in Poland. All I said ( with examples ) was that due to economic issues ( relatively low GDP, etc. ) and the way women are raised in Poland ( and in Eastern Europe in general ) you are statistically more likely to encounter a money-hungry Polish chick than You are to encounter a money-hungry British chick.

If in 20 years time Poland figures shale gas out and the British start mass-migrating to Rzeszow looking for jobs things might become different.

Right now I'm just calling it how it is.

I would like to highlight that I am Polish and you are just a visitor or an observer. -

I'll let You know that I'm still technically a Polish citizen.

Other than that, judging from what You wrote we might actually be quite close to a consensus on certain matters, though we'd probably disagree on the numbers.

You'd say that the combined amount of Polish women that are either:

a) money-hungry,

and/or

b) ready to suck the balls of everyone with a foreign passport at a drop of a hat,

is low.

I'd say it is rather noticeable and certainly well above average for a non-African, EU country.

2. Monia:

P.5, Monia:

I will try to explain the subject for some of you who are so confused . If a guy is hot and attractive he will get a pleasure of being with us at any time any place , he can pay with only a nice smile , but if a guy is delicately saying unattractive , well then money is an issue .

P. 5, Midas:

Madam, I'm very glad You posted because You exemplify what I wrote about.

You are quite simply a materialistic girl and there are many other Polish women like You.


P.6, Monia:

Some people say that the beauty lies inside a person I don`t know if it is true , but in my case I first go for what I see .

P.6, Midas:

Unless they're ugly in which case You go, as we already established, for the money :-)

P.6, Monia:

No , me never , coz I don`t need to and I have never done it . I was talking generally about a type of women going that way . But since I don`t need to chase a wallet I always go for a hot cake .

Madam, this exchange becomes pointless once You start contradicting Yourself every hour or so.

As I just pointed out, You wrote ( I assume You were of full mental faculties at the time ) that if the guy is unattractive then money "becomes the issue".

I flat out told You that it means You were materialistic, and I was being kind because, quite frankly, what You wrote pretty much describes the way prostitutes act and think.

Now You are trying to wiggle Your way out of Your first post and it isn't really working.

Of course not ! His point of view is very isolated . Maybe some polish woman ( a sluty type ) gave him a hard time , so no wonder he hates Polish girls. I feel very sorry for people who hold so much hatred towards others . Midas - change your attitude !!!!

My point of view isn't really that isolated. A great amount of British and Irish middle class consider Polish girls to be women of low moral standards, only they are kind enough not to express this opinion publicly all that often.

Now that's directly tied into the behaviour of some ( I underline - some ) Polish women from London/Dublin/loads of over places.

Of course I am well aware that in Poland on the average a girl can pull off one slutty trick every four months, say "Kobieta zmienna jest" or some other crap and everyone will still think she's "a good girl". That's not the way things work outside Polish borders, though.

Regarding the rest of Your "argument" - I am not "changing my attitude" because it is based on years of experience with Polish people and Polish women, with me having a Polish passport on top of things. Also, I don't really think that You have the "qualifications" necessary to tell me to "change my attitude". Please keep such statements for Your doormat boyo/husband back in Poland.

Also - I don't hate anyone. I just think that for very logical reasons ( years of communism and resulting inferiority complex, low amounts of personal property, low wages, princess syndrome that has to do with upbringing ) the amount of Polish women that are either money-hungry go-getters or willing to spread for a foreigner just because of his passport is higher than in other countries.

Now for some odd reason women from Eastern Europe always take it as a personal insult, despite the fact that it is true. I find this attitude somewhat unique. Many a times I told a British lass that I am somewhat shocked by the amount of drinks many British girls will pour into themselves on a Friday night and it was never taken as a personal attack.

3. Last but not the least, southern.

I actually believe Midas is angry polish women do not let him enjoy his jewish one.He has the touch of gold as the original Midas.

The only thing that ever got me miffed on PF was the kind of anti-semitism I believed was long extinct. Apart from that I rarely get angry. However I am logical and I will tell things like they are.

Regarding my personal life, I am in a stable, happy if somewhat complicated by our respective careers, relationship with a Jewish woman that's not particularly religious. Haven't tied the knot yet, though.
Midas   
21 Mar 2011
UK, Ireland / Poles in Ireland by Peadar de Burca. They "turned their backs on a country that gave them" [195]

Why do these Poles stay in a country where they have to work a 22-hour shift and live in a room they rent with 19 other migrants and a pig called Jeremy? Do they think that this existence is better than being chased by a bear in Bialystock? I say that it isn't.

This may explain why Ireland has so many drug addicts. They roam the streets day and night like the zombies from Michael Jackson's 'Thriller' video.Dublin is the heroin capital of Europe. There are swathes of addicts everywhere in the city, all of them dressed for some strange reason, in tracksuits. Are they training for something? The Heroin Olympics? Think of all the gold medals we would win in events such as 'Throwing the Syringe', 'Synchronised Overdosing' and 'The Shoplifting Relay Race'.

You never see priests walking around the streets of Ireland. This is because they are all hiding from the authorities. Whenever a priest is spotted near an Irish village, it is announced on radio stations and families are warned to avoid the area. Then teams of men form a line and walk through the undergrowth, beating drums and cans, trying to drive the beast out into the open where they can get a clear shot at it.

The women in Poland look like women - they look like they are the result of a tryst between Rudolph Valentino and Marlene Dietrich. With Irish women, it looks like the zookeeper forgot to lock the gates

Most middle-aged Irish people think that Poles come from a third world country where the only food is baked sulphor. They are unaware that the Polish man mopping the floor is actually a trained architect with a black belt in Applied Physics.

McCoy - may You be blessed for posting the link, sir. The man who wrote this has a positively wicked sense of humour.
Midas   
21 Mar 2011
UK, Ireland / Poles in Ireland by Peadar de Burca. They "turned their backs on a country that gave them" [195]

^^ Ok, this is getting out of hand.

1) Polish people do not/did not work "hard jobs that the brits were too egoistic" for.

Polish people came over and basically drove down the wage You had to pay to find an employee in almost all corners of the market, both in the UK and in Ireland. While some of them were hard workers indeed, so were/are many Brits and Irish.

Don't expect anyone who worked a job in the UK/Ireland and suddenly found himself without one because a Pole undercut him to be happy about the amount of Polish people that came over.

2) Who do your men go get themselves involved with our woman even for temporary fun? That makes you a better human?

You honestly expect all the guys in UK/Ireland to turn down free *****? Because that's what a noticeable amout of Polish ladies are.

3) Why do the brits not do their smaller job and let the Poles do it? You are incapable of it? - please see 1.

4) I think we Poles are atleast better because we are not into making fun or demeaning anyone. - You must be joking sir...

I happen to speak Polish and numerous times I've heard Polish women slagging off British/Irish women ( for being supposedly ugly, not feminine, drunks, of low morals <sic!>, etc. ). With some Polish girls it honestly seems like a favorite past time sometimes, let's talk about how much better than anyone else we are.

And Polish guys aren't without fault in this department either, especially the big myth about them being so much more "hardworking" than everyone else.

5) Why don't you brits create stricter rules so that you don't have to take us Poles for work anymore in your countries? -

I'm not going to advocate it because I made quite a dandy profit on hiring Polish subcontractors, but if I were a British/Irish construction worker I'd be screaming bloody murder. To be perfectly clear - I hired Polish not because they are so bloody hardworking, but because they worked for less money.
Midas   
22 Mar 2011
Law / LOOKING FOR HELP AND INFORMATION TO OPEN INDIAN RESTAURANT IN POLAND..... [80]

I'm sure Ireland could really use another Indian restaurant and a small legion of Indians necessary to operate it.

And Irish people love multiculturalism and foreign cuisines. Besides - they pay in euro and the cheap Polish pay in worthless zloty.

By all means, forget Poland and head for Ireland will all your relatives and family.
Midas   
31 Mar 2011
UK, Ireland / British going bankrupt in Poland? [22]

Ukpolska - Quit being so cheeky. She's a very toned, stunning size ten who doesn't look her age, loves to help young lads out should they find themselves in a financial hotspot ( real Mother Theresa ) and thus she doesn't deserve your rudeness :-)

Sarcasm aside, I seriously believe that 90% of the time an appropriate Polish "komornik" responsible for debt recovery won't have the foggiest on how to collect on a guy who is living in the UK. That partially depends on who he is in the hole with and what kind of legal representation they get during the debt recovery process.

Btw, madam, please tell Your young boyo not to pull such stunts in the future, doing business in Poland is difficult as it is when one is a foreigner, without English lads coming over and ******* people out of their hard earned zloty, then running off back to UK looking for a way to weasel out of it.
Midas   
31 Mar 2011
Life / As a black gay man (US) visiting Warsaw this summer, will I get beat up for nothing? [65]

Hey,

1) Unless You got "I'm gay" written in white ink on Your forehead or strut around in a pink catsuit with a handbag most people won't notice You are gay and it won't be a factor.

2) Poland wasn't really that great for dark skinned people in the 1990's, although not as bad as Russia. Things have improved by leaps and bounds since, now it is pretty much like any other European country. So apply the usual rule of the thumb - the poorer the neighbourhood, the bigger Your chance of someone ( often a group of young thugs ) having a problem with Your skin color.

Downtown Warsaw - You'll be fine.

Oh yeah, with the above in mind, I'd avoid the vicinity of Legia's £azienkowska stadium during game days.
Midas   
31 Mar 2011
Feedback / A Personal Request to all PF members [119]

isnt it basically: please dont ever say anything negative about Poland?

I have a feeling he might be a tad miffed after I wrote that some polish chicks go into full slut/show me the money mode once they make it onto Albion's shores. We clashed heads over it, I recall.

Look Lodz, it is a forum. People have opinions. Some of them pertain to Poland or Polish people and not all of them are positive. Live with it.

You don't see me asking certain mass media in Poland to shut up when they complain about money hungry Jews, right?
Midas   
31 Mar 2011
Life / As a black gay man (US) visiting Warsaw this summer, will I get beat up for nothing? [65]

I was being ironic too, but it obviously went right over your head. Does that happen to you often?

Pretty much every other Thursday :-)

The thread is a oueer drama.

Didn't notice any "queer drama".

Guys, I'm sorry, but a number of Eastern European states have a reputation as not particularly friendly for dark skinned people. IMO that's very 1990's, but the reputation is still there, people will ask questions.

Kind of funny really, considering German "soccer fans" used to throw bananas at Tony Yeboah when he first started playing there, yet Germany didn't get that kind of rep. Better PR, I guess.
Midas   
31 Mar 2011
UK, Ireland / British going bankrupt in Poland? [22]

UkPolska - and I am fed up with people coming over here thinking they can screw people and get away with it, but unfortunately this is everywhere from multinational companies right the way down to individual investors.

The multinationals will **** everyone over for a few bucks, move factories around the globe, shop for tax incentives, etc. and that's a well known fact.

What boils my **** is the "individual investors".

Now, I'll freely admit I'm no Santa Claus myself and will pay no more than a market wage for contractors, architects, etc. I refuse to pay extra for plots, flats and quite a few of my would-be deals here fell apart because some Polish genius thought he could play me for a schmuck and pull some exorbitant price from his hat out of the blue.

But I don't treat Poland as a piggy bank and don't **** people out of their money. And since 2004 I've seen many a "businessman" ( often English/Irish, I have to add ) whose businessplan in Poland was based on not paying people and disappearing when things didn't work out.

andrew wright:

Easy! I was 22 years old,Self employed,Taking home £55.000 a years for 7 years,Spent my money on my Kids,My Wife, My house,Nice new cars ETC and not the tax man,

So basically your "businessplan" boiled down to ******* the state for as long as you were able, then filing the papers?

Ethical, I must say :-)
Midas   
31 Mar 2011
Feedback / A Personal Request to all PF members [119]

Marysia - stop lying.

What I wrote applies only to some polish women. Of course, I admit that the percentage of money-oriented polish women is visibly higher than in, shall we say, U.S. or France, but that doesn't mean I think ALL Polish women are like that. 30% at most.
Midas   
1 Apr 2011
Life / As a black gay man (US) visiting Warsaw this summer, will I get beat up for nothing? [65]

Zman, JonnyM and Midas, you all seem RAD! private email me, when I get there at the end of June, let's hang and have a few beers or vodka or whatever is flowing from the tap.

Sounds wonderful, though the chances of me being in Poland and Warsaw around June this year seem rather slim at the moment, to be fair.
Midas   
6 Apr 2011
News / Polish prostitute fined $820,000 for unpaid tax [18]

This has **** all to do with prostitution.

She's fronting for someone who has got a bit of illegal cash and figured "prostitution" was a loophole.

Hope they get them all for money laundering.