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From: Beograd, Serbia
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Natasa   
11 Oct 2011
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]

Is Cottbus Western Europe? Is Gorzów Eastern Europe?

Just playing a bit Seanus :)...:

Yes, no ....Poland is Western or Central european country
Yes, Yes....Poland is East European country
No, no.....Poland is Central or Western european country
No, yes...Poland is East european country
;)
I'm afraid we have a stalemate. Poland is either:

a) Eastern europe
b) Central
d) Western Europe
e) Poland is not country
f) this is meaningless, my attempts to emphasize the absurdity of the discussion are futile, but the underlying motives of the posters in this thread are pretty transparent and real conclusion can't be drawn.

now, seriously:

Poles who like the bait of the dominant political discourse will insist on arguments that will surely prove Central or Western descriptions, while non Poles (belonging by birth certificate to the dominating part of the world) tend to behave in two distinct manners, those with the need to debase Poles will insist on East, and those who have some family ties will insist on Central. What is the point of the discussion? Or to paraphrase one of the researchers (US, social psychology) on the topic of attitude change who concluded one of his chapters where he presented various experiments that deal with direction and possible methods of change of political attitudes with this words: ' When did you see the last time that discussion (arguments) changed somebody's opinion truly?'

And there are few other posters, those who refuse to use offered categories.
Natasa   
11 Oct 2011
News / Will you be proud of tranny (transsexual) representing Poland ? [124]

Fortunately most experts, including the pioneering team at Johns Hopkins disagree with you.

Experts agreed many times about different par excellent idiocies, like masturbation being one of the causes of blindness.

I heard our most prominent surgeons in that field Sava Perović, pioneer of sex change in this region, saying to his students that all of the research, international studies done until that moment, two, three years ago were inconclusive about solid medical condition that justifies sex change interventions. He said that 'He trusts the word of his patients (relying on report of their psychological states).

Also, when dealing with touchy subjects on the edge of science that has firm empirical base or science based on consensus of the experts, some caution is healthy.

Once upon a time in America experts also agreed on the existence of medical illness named drapetomania, illness equated with PATHOLOGICAL need of the black slaves to run away from their white masters into the freedom.

Careful.... ;)
Natasa   
11 Oct 2011
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]

There is no final and absolute criteria to resolve this vital question :)

This discussion is distasteful.
It is humiliating for Poles, regardless which of the positions is defended, pro or contra - all of the offered options. West, East or Central.

Boycott!
Natasa   
11 Oct 2011
Love / Virtual Relationship of an Asian girl with a Polish man [43]

It can work. Sometimes.
I met a guy online in 2000. and we were in quite gratifying relationship (shared evaluation) for almost 2 years. Although he was from Belgrade like me, we both hesitated to meet in person for 3 months, being afraid that the online magic will be gone. It wasn't :)

One perfect intermezzo ;)
Natasa   
8 Oct 2011
History / Why is Vatican traditionally on German and not on Polish side? [65]

I read that Vatican in the period of christianization of Slavs (we were a serious candidate too at the time, our Tzar Dushan asked for Pope's blessing for his empire, thought of converting to Catholicism, but Pope's lack of support against Hungarians), didn't have high opinion (euphemism) of the Slavic population, their officials unofficially agreed on that, that Slavic catholics have to put in more effort than others, to prove their faith to be regarded equal to other Catholics, which lasted a while according to the sources I encountered. And I didn't encounter much :(
Natasa   
8 Oct 2011
Life / Can many young Poles speak German? [72]

Survival French, Spanish, some elementary Italian and only a smattering of Romanian-:)

Bravo :))))))

Gemuetlichkeit - przytulność:)
Feierabend - fajrant

Gemuetlichkeit- prijatnost
Feierabend - fajront
Natasa   
7 Oct 2011
Life / The nature of Polish jokes? [124]

There's a vagina around me now :)

Of course Seanus, you see them too. Me too :((( But I have to complain, I prefer spears or totems over rifts.
Natasa   
7 Oct 2011
Life / The nature of Polish jokes? [124]

Southern's perception of reality is correct. Vaginas indeed are everywhere around us. Self deception mechanisms that we fell prey to are disabling the rest of us to see them. Southern's is misunderstood for seeing the reality too clearly. No conflict with the reality there.

now, seriously, one of 10 cards used fro Rorschach test, 6th card is known as sex card among psychologists with psychoanalytical background. It really has a penis drawn (it is actually a stain, nothing was intentionally drawn on those cards) and a strong to vagina associated lines and rift. Curiously nobody sees penis or vagina, it is the censored association. Only if a colleague tests you, when censoring is down, then they can emerge.

People usually give socially desirable answer like spears, canyon, river, highways etc. The problem is not that they verbalize socially desirable answers, but that they see socially unsanctioned objects.

So, I prefer the ones who manage to break through the thick layer of kleinstadt morality and perceive more accurately ;)
Natasa   
7 Oct 2011
Life / Can many young Poles speak German? [72]

English indeed seems more practical, I had to say that because it is an insult for Germans ;)
I have nothing to do with business so I didn't really need it. I used it to start reading Homo Faber auf Deutsch.
But, it is excellent for giving orders. Am Besten!

When I gave up German, I started learning Spanish at Uni. I also had a private tutor for 6 months intensively. Fast in, fast out. I understand it quite well now, but it ends there. Probably contact and effort would result with some awakening of the sleeping vocabulary. I managed to read Marquez in Spanish in that period, 10 years ago, and found out disappointed that his work sounds better in Serbian translation. We have few excellent interpreters that spiced up Marquez. One of them is from Chile. That was the time when I realized that interpreter rewrites the writer. Tricky.

I regret missing the French. I'm afraid I will close my eyes as an ignorant on that matter.

Do you speak any of the languages from Romanic group Lyzko?
Natasa   
7 Oct 2011
Life / Rate Poland (Life Quality / Culture and People / Food): 1-10! [232]

The contrast between North and South was the main factor which attracted them

We didn't see that frequent fascination by contrasts when it comes to Italian, Greek or Spanish writers, painters, sculptors, etc.
I don't think it is contrast itself, but the breathtaking beauty and history of Mediterranean area.

I truly appreciated the beauty of Baltic and North sea, and I understand that people from the North are adjusted to its climate, and prefer it.

I don't think I was understood right, my english perhaps, but Mediterranean sea belongs to some other genre. It is not the landscape. It is the beginning. Ab ovo.
Natasa   
7 Oct 2011
Life / Can many young Poles speak German? [72]

Save the always scarce memory capacity resources for something Good, don't be so generous ;)

Edit: I didn't learn German in school, but terrible adolescent crisis tempted me to start learning Deutsch. So...i bought the book, the basic level. Then I had a tutor for a year and a half. I don't know why I did it, but I suspect that some deeply rooted collective consciousness type of anxiety was the motivator. God knows why.

I should delete that from my HD and replace it with some melodic southern language.

Poles learn German, it is eine sehr wichtige Sprache.
Natasa   
7 Oct 2011
Life / Rate Poland (Life Quality / Culture and People / Food): 1-10! [232]

Those who say the baltic is not as good as the meditteranean are out of their mind

I am insane, no doubt.

So, I really liked the Baltic sea. I saw it in January. North sea I saw, touched and was blown away by the strength of the wind at the end of one August. Wonders. Truly.

But, perhaps the number of Northerners (British, Germans) who replace the North seas with Spanish, Italian, Greek coast, colonizing the Mediterranean areas still says something.

Prosaists and poets who decided to change the cold North with (missing an adjective here) Mediterranean , to live there or were frequent travelers who's journeys ended always with olive trees and Mediterranean blueness were also insane: Lord Byron who lived in Greece, Browning, Ruskin, Forster, D. H. Lawrence, Henry James,Tomas Mann, Henry Miller who wrote his best novel inspired by Corfu where he was invited by Lawrence Durrell who lived there, Joyce who lived more than a decade on Northern Adriatic, in Trieste... list is endless.

That is just a head of the list of those who don't know the difference.
Natasa   
7 Oct 2011
Life / Rate Poland (Life Quality / Culture and People / Food): 1-10! [232]

Compare the beaches:

Mediterranean sea apart from being the womb of western civilization knows also how to be chilly and empty. But on 6. of October. Water T = 22 C.

I liked the wilderness and winds of the North and Baltic sea I had pleasure to see, but Mediterranean sea has more faces to show.

The warm one and the wild one.

So, careful.... ;)
Natasa   
6 Oct 2011
Law / Difference between an expat and a immigrant (or permanet resident) in Poland [41]

It sounds like expatriate is one wandering and lost tourist, but expert in his field nonetheless :)

Anyway, i still fail to grasp the difference that makes that difference important.

Still feels like a language mean to discriminate, or to give privileges avoiding the stigma of being called an immigrant.

English is my third language, so I am apologizing for not understanding this discussion perhaps at all.
Natasa   
6 Oct 2011
Life / Can any young Poles can still speak Russian [25]

The biggest obstacle for the Poles in understanding Russian is Cyrrilic alphabet. We the Russians don't have that obstacle for everyone can more or less read Latin letters.

Being nowhere constantly, we have equally relevant two alphabets (East, West), one is taught in the 1.grade(cyrillic), the other one in the 2. grade (latin) of elementary school.

My education in large part was happening during the golden liberal socialism period, when different elem. schools had two different obligatory languages. English was the most common, and present in almost all of the schools(95%), second one was russian, then close to the oldest part of Belgrade, as a second language instead of russian that was more common in Novi Beograd, German and French were taught. Kids could choose only the school, but not the languages they will learn in particular school.

Summary: I had 5 years of English, from my 9- 14 year (most basic level), and in gymnasium my foreign language (elementary school was determining that one) was only russian. English was replaced with Latin.

Problems I had with Russian are not describable!!, we all mostly cheated shamelessly, my lexical fund was enriched with, all in total 20 truly russian words during 8 years of 'learning' it.

Russian grammar , on the other hand, I knew better than Serbian. System was for some unknown reason insisting on knowing by heart all declinations for nouns, adjectives. (in Russian)

So, I have no idea how would all that look like if there was no russian in school, but I do understand approximately 70 % of spoken russian, and I know that Russians understand me proportionally.

Written Polish is harder for me to comprehend than spoken one, and I understand it even then far less than russian.

I found the link to that chart, I am not sure about reliability of the source.
Natasa   
6 Oct 2011
Life / Can any young Poles can still speak Russian [25]

Similarities with Russian:

Russian 100%
Ukrainian 90%
Bulgarian 90%
Serbo-Croatian 65%
Polish 60%
Czech 40%

how-to-learn-any-language.com/e/languages/similarities/russian/index.html

Govoriš li srpski KingAtheristan?

Sram te bilo ako ne ;)
Natasa   
5 Oct 2011
Life / Expats/Immigrants in Poland: Needy, Greedy or contributor. Which one are you? [118]

How would you classify all these Polish girls who left Poland for Western European husbands? Needy?

The B1tches of Westwick ;)

or like Hollywood defines that phenomenon ' Eastern bloc likes western co..', a disgusting, arrogant quote existing in 3 movies. (Gone in 60 seconds, 7 seconds, Silent partner)
I heard it only once and stopped the movie.

In my vocabulary that choice is called the Despair.

This refers to all Slavic transfers to the club that pays better.

Just kidding. ;)
Natasa   
4 Oct 2011
News / US to deploy Patriot missiles to Poland [404]

p was the trigger for W

I read interviews with some Austrian and I think US historians agreeing that without that bullet that war would have happened. The CAUSES for the war were there and waiting for the right moment. Trigger itself is less relevant.

Gavrilo Prinicip for Serbs is a symbol of strivings for freedom and refusal to live under Austrian oppression (previous annexation of Bosnia inhabited by Serbs).
Natasa   
3 Oct 2011
News / US to deploy Patriot missiles to Poland [404]

Causing a world war

That was not the cause of war. The triggering factor yes.

One bullet can't be a cause unless it penetrates the container of highly explosive material.

The causes of World War I, which began in central Europe in July 1914, included many intertwined factors, such as the conflicts and hostility of the four decades leading up to the war. Militarism, alliances, imperialism, and nationalism played major roles in the conflict as well. However, the immediate origins of the war lay in the decisions taken by statesmen and generals during the July Crisis of 1914, casus belli for which was the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria and his wife by Gavrilo Princip, an irredentist Serb.[1]

The crisis came after a long and difficult series of diplomatic clashes between the Great Powers (Italy, France, Germany, Great Britain, Austria-Hungarian Empire and Russia) over European and colonial issues in the decade before 1914 that had left tensions high. In turn these diplomatic clashes can be traced to changes in the balance of power in Europe since 1867.[2] The more immediate cause for the war was tensions over territory in the Balkans. Austria-Hungary competed with Serbia and Russia for territory and influence in the region and they pulled the rest of the Great Powers into the conflict through their various alliances and treaties.

Natasa   
1 Oct 2011
Language / Passion means pasja in Polish [12]

Music, dark, silence, distance, then Bites -> blood-> struggle -> ruined furniture -> ruined clothes - > love -> (divorce?) -> hate, and then the circle is closed. Here we go again.

I didn't use word sex above, yeey and I talked just about sex.