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Natasa   
18 Oct 2011
Study / The worst of Polish education. No wonder Polish universities are bottom of the list. [142]

Their arguments are:

Nobody here claims anything similar. University graduation demands general abilities at least above average. And everybody agrees on that. Here the cream is collected by Faculties of Philosophy, History, Literary theory, Psychology, Political sciences, sociology, Electro - engineering, Molecular biology, Mathematics,...If you were less gifted you'd apply for Medicine, Stomtology, Machine engineering ,economy, management in business, Law, other sciences or if you are close to population average in IQ then Technology, Agriculture and so on...

That is Belgrade Uni ranking. Novi Sad perhaps differs, we did research on abilities in convergent and divergent thinking and those were app. results.
Natasa   
18 Oct 2011
Off-Topic / The fees, cost per session of psychotherapy worldwide, especially Poland [6]

guess about 70-100,000 euro

you guessed it right, but average is this lower figure 70 000 euro if they work 38 hours per week, all costs for the practice (tax, administration, helping staff) are 40 000 euro which leaves one German ordinary psychotherapists with netto 30 000 euro per year.

Germany, no.
Natasa   
18 Oct 2011
Off-Topic / The fees, cost per session of psychotherapy worldwide, especially Poland [6]

Thank you Barney:), could you please try to guess the annual salary of psychotherapist in Germany?

(Barney thinks it’s a con, the person is clearly addicted to this therapy but giving true info for Natasa)

It's not a con if that person feels like Barney afterwards ;)
Natasa   
18 Oct 2011
Study / The worst of Polish education. No wonder Polish universities are bottom of the list. [142]

Greece is known to have very harsh selection of students, so even we had few Greek students studying mostly medicine, stomatology and sports here. They, as foreign students didn't go through any selection, there was a quote, for example 20 international students and those students were usually the lousiest with attempts and success in bribery which was some sort of non written regulation for additional incomes. It was not tolerated with domestic students, because it would spread fast around and heads would have fallen. Foreigners were discrete ;)
Natasa   
18 Oct 2011
Off-Topic / The fees, cost per session of psychotherapy worldwide, especially Poland [6]

I would like to hear if someone knows, has personal experience, about fees for psychotherapy, Poland and US, and your impression if they are expensive or cheap or adequately valued compared to other services?

And one guess, but don't look online, just try without googling, what is the average salary of one psychotherapist per year after reduction for all the costs in Germany?

please try, I missed :)))

I know nobody here has any psychological problems including me :), I just asked you if you heard anything about how pricy it is from you friends, colleagues, relatives...;)
Natasa   
18 Oct 2011
Study / The worst of Polish education. No wonder Polish universities are bottom of the list. [142]

With oral exams what matters is the level of the other examinees sitting around you in the exam..

Similar method is used at Medical faculty here. In general those faculties who still force the practice of oral exams obey the rule of not asking the same question twice. So the next student knows that he will surely not be asked anything that previous examinee was asked. They have piles with cards with questions, so it really is completely random unless professor takes out of the pile the easy questions. The effect of contrast, when the first student shines indeed is there, and grades tend to be calibrated according to first few examinees.
Natasa   
18 Oct 2011
Study / The worst of Polish education. No wonder Polish universities are bottom of the list. [142]

On the other hand on answering questions by writing text you may fail even if you have studied good cause the questions are rather few to cover the material.

It is known how those test should be made, demand that question ought to be representative for the entire subject must be met. Also certain precent of open- end questions should be there, perhaps also one short essay type of question and the rest closed questions with answers that are all to some degree plausible. So, those tests cover usually the complete exam material of 2000 pages via 4 written exams, each with more than 50 questions. It lasts longer but to achieve accuracy and fairness that is OK.

Curiously, being small group of 50 students who were on those exams, usually the rankings (grades of students) were similar from exam to exam, same people achieved more or less same ranks, proves that people who have higher abilities and put more effort were righteously rewarded for both using that method.

However you can get a very high grade deviating largely from average if you study excessively.

Yes, it was hard or impossible to get 10 in Psychology, very rarely, and it meant that person learned the subject to the last detail.

I prefer that system than the one where verbalization and personal contact can contaminate (and they usually do) the evaluation of the student's knowledge by the professor.

I gave up Law after passing Criminal law, general part and when professor told me that she will give me 9, that all facts are told, but not presented in a way it is expected by future lawyer, then she listed my student book and said that for the same reason other teachers were giving me 8 mostly. She said that facts in law sometimes have less significance than verbal presentation of facts?!, and I told her that I will think about continuing law if that is the case. Then 1999. came and ambivalence was solved. I quit. ( I was on 3rd year, and I was for the second time learning the International Public law, with all the idiotic details about UN and international legal acts, while bombs who flew against those super cute declarations were making whoooozeee, boooooom above my head repeatedly. Then it was over. Thank you good soldiers for helping me become good and poor person, not some filthy rich lawyer)
Natasa   
17 Oct 2011
Study / The worst of Polish education. No wonder Polish universities are bottom of the list. [142]

In european countries the material is not tested in the same way as in anglosaxon countries by multiple choice questions and the tests are not standardized meaning 80% or 90% of the class may fail not because students are unprepared but because questions are rather difficult.

I started with law studies and I was prepared out of 800 pages for 750. Three questions, random, verbal, nothing left nothing right from those three. Once out of 82 lessons, I learned 80 and drew out the card with the one not learned enough, I just read it, hell!! I passed 13 of those exams there, full two and a half years of horror, and decided to study psychology, which was more elite, 7 candidates for 1 student place, and IQ test was part of entrance exams. Average IQ of psychology student was 120, if I remember correctly. Then we had to memorize again 2300 pages, 2000 pages, but they mostly gave options of multiple choice written type of exams, with demanded 60 % to pass which was making it less gloomy, although for 5 years I studied in average 6 hours per day, every day, with all in total (I summed it up) 3 months of break during those 5 years. I developed some strange myopia that was gone after I graduated. Ophthalmologists who originally diagnosed it, and suggested glasses were after I noticed that reading gets only more difficult with the old ones, surprised to determine it was gone and glasses should be thrown away.

So, multiple choice promotes some sort of additional motivation knowing that there is high chance that you will be rewarded according to your knowledge, effort, if you learn 70 % of demanded you'll pass with that grade 7, that would be a C I think. Strictly verbal exams like the conservative law faculty was offering was promoting cheating (scripts instead of books, empty verbal proliferation and mostly reward rarely was adequate, somebody who learned 50% and had a luck to choose 3 questions among those got a 10 (A A), and somebody who missed 25% and had a bad luck to draw one from those 25'% was failing. It was DEMOTIVATING.

Actually, this depicts the goal of the studying those. Psychology- leftists who discriminate against less gifted people , and promote fairness, and Law, conservatives that teach you should how to get through the system and become a fraud unless you want to suffer horribly :))))
Natasa   
17 Oct 2011
Law / What are chances for Poland to join in Eurasian Economic Community? [100]

but there was NO genetic exchange. take a history lesson about the balkans.

There was but not in a direction Resident Evil said. According to Igenea, Turks have Slavic element in their genome, I think it was 9% or something like that. That could be explained by practice called Tax in blood, where Serbian children, the tallest the healthiest in some areas, south Serbia and parts of FMRY, were taken from their parents to be raised by Turks and to become future Turks and Ottoman army.

Serbs are mostly a mixture of Slavs who settled here and the population already inhabiting Balkans, and in large share a genome unfortunately with teutonics and I think some celtic markers too are there. Turks are nowhere to be found. Teutonics or Turks it is irrelevant for us. Same sh1t. Celtic is OK ;)
Natasa   
17 Oct 2011
Law / What are chances for Poland to join in Eurasian Economic Community? [100]

That is utter crap you would like to believe in that conveniently justifies behavior of the West in this area. You are both prone to cognitive slippages, letting your emotions reasoning for you.

Like with Amanda aka guesswho and Bratwurst boy, discussions are waste of time about this topic.
Natasa   
17 Oct 2011
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]

Didn't good Germans say that it has to move to the East?

I have deepest admiration for Poles being able to survive that go West :), go East game. Don't get caught again Poles, be wise. I sound like Crow now :))
Natasa   
17 Oct 2011
Love / Polish women are the most beautiful in the world! [1718]

Yes,the men fill in the gaps with combinations arising from their furious mind.

Women don't fill the gaps having inferior minds ;)We say .'Either you are ninja or minja (pus5y)'. It doesn't take much effort to determine that one. Cruel.

I mean what they decide to introduce.Although in case of slavic women there is always an uglier kolezanka in need of pomoc hanging on the boys offers of her more beautiful girlfriends.

Yes, that sounds like perfect example of symbiosis.

I didn't go out only with girls for a long time. Always with guys who like boys. I have to test how it functions. I have the perfect friend. Red hair natural, bright, pretty, 'open' type- she plays the Slavic card (half Ukrainian) where any male comparison with her makes any other girl looks like virgo intacta.

Her best friend is half Hungarian so they are seductive when they breathe.
That will be funny, can't wait :)))))
Natasa   
17 Oct 2011
Love / Polish women are the most beautiful in the world! [1718]

Generally I have noticed that slavic women have prettier girlfriends than themselves who they are keen to introduce.The reason is to augment your reality so that you can handle them in exaggeration.Opossite to that Greek women always carry rhe uglier looking girlfriends with them in order to shine among them with the usual catastrophic effects.

But Southern, if one Slavic woman has prettier girlfriend, her friend has the uglier as a company. Also, if one Greek woman decided to present her ugly friend, then her uglier friend chose to go out with the prettier ;)

Here, the best choice is to go out with the most different one. Blond with brunette or dark, girl with the big boobs goes out with the one who has good ass and longer legs. Results are always there. And knowing that men's preferences evolve around extremes, and tastes differ, magic will happen always.
Natasa   
17 Oct 2011
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]

Having no social consensus on the topic is an argument pro arbitrary, personal preference type of 'right' choice to describe Poland.

I still find this discussion humiliating for Poles, they are forced to prove that they are good enough to be the West, or not bad enough to be the East, terms being defined by the West with all positive and negative meanings attached to the concepts of West and East.

What's the point? :)
Natasa   
16 Oct 2011
Law / What are chances for Poland to join in Eurasian Economic Community? [100]

What you refer to here is simply called nationalism in its very crude form or just state of being very nationalistic in a sort of outdated and narrow minded 19th century way. Elsewhere things have evolved…

That is American view, you have the same phenomena you call it patriotism, because for lack of national bond of your citizens. You are raised form the day one to love your country, we are raised to love our nation.

I don't want to even try to discuss nationalism with you, you have far less knowledge about its routs, development its meaning, so it is futile. What you think you know is something completely else. No offense, I dealt with the subject from all sides, psychological, historical, legal, political. Second you tend to display rigid cognitive style where my attempts would be stopped for the second time. Third, you were more than once very mean, at times also vulgar when it comes to description of Serbs, so I , knowing that attitudes especially after emotions are envolved and person repeats them over and over (like you did) they become even more solid. Very rarely people change their attitudes through discussion, it is known what are the factors that have to involved, neither of us possess the traits to perform something that would make you unbiased. On my side lack of authority, on yours integrative thinking, tendency not to oversimplify phenomena, and above all mechanism of displacement you tend to use when it comes to Serbian topic, you are simply mean and angry with not much to say about the topic besides the usual things.

hmm I wonder if the Serbian media gave Russian and Greek volunteers fighting for Serbs the same psychological assessment... or did they just called them heroes..?

It is good to say that the reportage about foreign volunteers in CRO was made by BBC I think, certainly not anything close to Serbs. It sadly should have presented the support, but for those who have basic literacy it presented something completely different.

I didn't know that Russians volunteered in this war nor Greeks, until I came to this forum and was involved in shameful discussions like this one where I have constantly for the sake of TRUTH to dig out from the graves people who were victims on Serbian side. It seems to me, also to a blind one, that that side is slightly underrepresented here. That truly is causing nausea. I don't see a reason why would you be so engaged in Crow's threads, discuss American, Polish, Danish? issues that have some relevance for you and where you can be creative, not destructive and redundant.. Sadly your contribution here is close to zero.

...but of course 1945 , remember?! Yeah! Let's go kill the grandpa, it's been only 50 yeras! - grow the fvck up.

It was mostly driven by fear for survival, Croats declaring independence changed their constitution and expelled Serbs that were big minority out of it, reviving the traumatic past of the people there. History exists, like it or not. your country your issues, I am not getting involved in discussions that deal with something that I have less knowledge about, and especially I wouldn't dare to give you lessons how to behave. You displayed all of your shortcomings on one- single topic Serbs.
Natasa   
16 Oct 2011
Law / What are chances for Poland to join in Eurasian Economic Community? [100]

If anything their sympathy was clearly on the side of Croats as manifested by numerous Polish volunteers fighting in Croatian army against the Serbs

If some lost souls were there, I saw the reportage about foreign volunteers in CRO, well let's say it was hard to find one face with teeth, or not being at some moment diagnosed as a psychopathy( absence of mimic and hardly articulated sounds that were supposed to be interview), or borderline intelligence at best. It was a horror show, gallery of people that resembled circus artists ;)

When it comes to Croats, have in mind that Serbs have memory of 300 000 slaughtered Serbs by Nazi Croats, in camps, in pits, 1941, 42, 43. the parents and grandparents of those Serbs in CRO in the same region war was going on in 1991.

Fear for life is a strange thing, makes people defensive aggressive, they want to live, knowing that the same Croatian rhetoric supported in 1991. by the West lead 50 years ago to worst death camps in WWII. See under Jasenovac.

And such Orthodox Serbs are often seen as some sort of iffy thuggish wannabe Russians

Serbs just wanna have fun Flagleess :))) Nobody wants to be Russian. Serbs usually like being Serbs. No they love it. One of the social studies performed few years ago by American social psychologist about self esteem, showed that at least there, Serbs are the first in the world. Hence, they don't want to be anything else. They feel good in their skin.
Natasa   
15 Oct 2011
Love / Polish women are the most beautiful in the world! [1718]

I have to be honest I didn't notice much make up on the Greek women while I was in Greece, perhaps the places I went to were not representative enough.

Spanish women also don't use much make up from what I could have seen in one month.

Italian women I had a chance to observe more often. To me it looked like discrete make up.

But perhaps, mine and your definition of what is overuse of make up differ southern.
Natasa   
15 Oct 2011
Love / Polish women are the most beautiful in the world! [1718]

Would have thought a bit of mystery would be nice!

That is not how Slavic men function. If they are drunk, everything should be as visible and subject of augmentation as possible ;)
The competition for few good men in Slavic universe is harsh, so women simply HAVE to impress among many other non loyal girls. And tension in the trousers then serves as a guide. Colors tend to provoke it.

I also dislike the Western masculinized style of women. I hate when I see man and a woman in a partner look, wearing exactly the same things just sizes differ. Slightly.

I will defend though Mediterranean appearance, think about Italy, Greece too, where genders are recognizable, and simply pleasant for the eyes.

But then again, Spanish, Italian Greek women have expressive more faces thanks to darker features (too much make up can turn them easily into drag queens), they are pretty without much make up.

Slavic paleness demands colors. I would have done the same if I were blond.
Natasa   
15 Oct 2011
Love / Polish women are the most beautiful in the world! [1718]

western women like ''cold,frozen''

One short story.

My best male friend from childhood studied in Moscow, among many students there was a very pretty Danish girl.
He said: 'when she was approaching us, the rest of the class (Russians, Germans, international group), she was stunning, tall, blond, pretty, but there was something missing when she came really close to us, we felt the chill air around us. When she broke her arm, I hoped she will, being vulnerable, show her less strong side, and there were glimpses of something human, she asked us to paint on her cast, but no. That was it. Merely behaving in expected manner. She was simply and unchangeably cold. Beautiful sculpture made of ice. Why the beauty then?'

Slavic women, I agree with Greek women there, do have thin hair, and like slutty appearance.
Natasa   
14 Oct 2011
Law / What are chances for Poland to join in Eurasian Economic Community? [100]

Czesław Miłosz wrote

And there is strong pro Polish sentiment also coming from Serbs.
Crow can be prone to use stronger rhetoric means in his expressions of emotions toward Poles, but even though I don't have his emotional sophistication, nor share his political attitudes, I know exactly what is he talking about when he is becoming nostalgic and sentimental about Poland.

Collective unconscious common, genome closeness (feeling of kinship), I have no explanation, perhaps both work to give this result.
Natasa   
14 Oct 2011
Life / Poles - what do non-Poles just "not get" and why? [23]

It depends, does talking about death turn you on? Is blood the new cream? And is the crypt the new playboy mansion

I'm afraid I didn't paraphrase Baudrillard well. Prnography as a term is used here to denote something forbidden, what people in a way fear from, something that they don't want to be a part of their lives, like it happened before with the real pûrnography. Sex was previously subject to avoid. Nowdays it is the death. the topic we avoid.

He didn't think about necrophilia, and I'm afraid it was understood too literal, concrete which is my fault.
Apologies to Baudrillard, he is dead since 2007, Death is not forbidden for him anymore, sadly...:(
Natasa   
14 Oct 2011
Food / POLISH RECIPES! [287]

Gilt- head bream on the grill with olive oil and a bits of parsley served and devoured with boiled chard and potato, pieces of garlic and lemon juice. Unpolish I'm afraid, but tasty :))
Natasa   
13 Oct 2011
Life / Poles - what do non-Poles just "not get" and why? [23]

Anything non-food related though?

You tried with the thread about Polish sexual preferences, but people insist on changing the urges (talk about food instead of what they really prefer)!!!!! I heard from one of my mentors that 2/3 of the obesity problems are directly, or indirectly caused by problems related to sexuality.

That theme is for me, for unknown reason still censored one to majority, although many argued that topic is that used that as Baudrillard stated, paraphrasing: 'Talks about sex cannot arouse anybody these days, everybody talks about it. Death became the truly forbidden theme, hence death is contemporary prnography'. He was wrong?