Love / Do you think that Polish should stick to Polish? [128]


LMAO!!!
apparently, so is your brain

what is this, your pickup line?

Love / Do you think that Polish should stick to Polish? [128]


Has it ever occurred to you that Polish women have the right to be with whomever they want to be? I kinda doubt that Poland is full of submissive, quiet women who don't know any better than to be abused and taken advantage of. Trust me, they don't need a dweeb like you to "rescue" them.

The pendulum will


? WTF are you talking about?

Love / Do you think that Polish should stick to Polish? [128]

yeah, why don't you take "your people" and move off somewhere where you don't mix with others? You can keep it pure and strong, and you can even be the secretary of marriage approvals... Please, don't compromise your values for other cultures, just stay away from normal people. In fact, as far as possible.

Love / Polish women are the most beautiful in the world! [1718]

dude, too many words, too little meaning...

and who are you? Ryan Reynolds? Don't tell me Brad Pitt is hanging on out PF now...

I think if that VS model got within 200 yards of your zitty teenage ass, you'd sh*t your pants. In fact, I think you'd do that if any female got within 200 yards of you.

Why don't you go find your playboy collection, your magnifying glass, and do what you normally do in the evening.

Love / Polish relationships (race and religion) [140]

You guys are all effed up in the head.

Who gives you the right to say who should marry whom? Jarnowa, I don't know which sh*t hut village you might be coming from, but I think you should go back there, preserve your genetic purity, and f*ck a goat.

As for GK, have you ever thought that maybe it's not whether the girl is Polish, or white, or Asian, it's that only some scheming low life would actually go out with you?

News / "Poland is flourishing" [62]

Regardless of the per-capita rate of the EU funding, the truth is that government spending boosts GDP, whether it's used efficiently or not. I can see how a large deficit can be scary (and nobody needs to explain it to us here) but at least some of it went for a fiscal stimulus (read: some good old fashioned consumer spending). That's good for the GDP as well.

I don't think increasing manufacturing is the key, it's about the diversity of where the money comes from.

And, to all those people who call the Polish abroad traitors and other moronic crap like that, apparenty all the people abroad sent close to $10 billion back home last year, so if I were you, I would be nice to your American, British or Irish "Polacks" because $10B is no small change.

(I'm still curious about what Crow is planning about the Slavdom...)

News / "Poland is flourishing" [62]


:)!! Where exactly is back home?


well, it's a trick people who write articles use to catch your eye. How gripping would it be to start an article with, "Poland is doing so-so?"

Ok, so I gather it's still terrible there...

Life / Polish dentistry cost - 230 zl for one tooth cavity filling [99]

did they take x-rays? i say they should have, for that scale of dental work. if they did, you can take the x-rays and show them to another dentist, get their opinion. not sure how much leverage this will give you if they say the work was indeed unnecessary to potentially go after the place you went to, but it would be worth knowing anyway. it's not unheard of that dentists would talk people into getting unnecessary work done, just to ramp up their bill. but unless you have a way of verifying this, you will never know, so from this perspective, if you can't do anything about it, there's no point obsessing about it any more. go do something fun this weekend :)

hey, perhaps you can show the x-rays to harry, he seems to know more about everything that anyone else...

Life / Differences in Polish, American and British mentality [237]

Seriously, people, get real. You can't blame Penn's father, or a lot of others in his situation, for communism in Europe. I'm not inclined to half of the contents of my fridge to Africa, does it make me responsible for the famine there? Most of my clothes are not organic cotton, should I be crucified for global warming? You buy cheap sh*t from China, are you sending the money you save this way to educate poor children there?

Life / Differences in Polish, American and British mentality [237]


you're looping. did you take your meds today?


interesting logic structure

so, Harry, what makes you so much better, exactly? what is your claim to fame? you don't seem to be all that willing to say anything about yourself? afraid to reveal anything not-so-saintly? at least Penn is honest about his opinions and his background.

Life / Differences in Polish, American and British mentality [237]

Ok, unless anyone has trouble with reading comprehension, i think we established that Penn's father wasn't a communist. The fact that the factory made some military equipment doesn't not mean his father was responsible for the oppression of democracy in the Eastern block. He worked at a factory, he didn't run it. I doubt he had much of a say about what was made there and where it was shipped.

Stealing is never admirable, but neither is passing judgment on people you don't know. And for all the self-righteous paragons of virtue here, the fact that Poland is still perceived as a corrupt country makes you hypocrites. Sure, it's the other people who steal, and the other people who lie. Who pronounced you a saint, Harry? It's still kind of interesting that you seem to know a lot about stuff going on in Poland back then but don't want to say how you learned it. I bet if you were in the same situation, you would steal that factory steel or whatever without a second thought about it.

And there is no doubt that church's mission is to mass-brainwash people, for power and material gain, but perhaps we should start a separate church thread.

Life / Differences in Polish, American and British mentality [237]


In fact, I didn't. Please indulge me. What's the big deal? Why can't you say how you know this stuff?

I agree about the church, btw.

Life / Differences in Polish, American and British mentality [237]

why can't Harry speak for himself? He seems to know a lot about Poland in the 80s/early 90s. I would like to find out how. It's a simple question.

Life / Differences in Polish, American and British mentality [237]


Harry, can you explain the source of your expertise in all things Polish, and when you worked for the good of Poland?

I would also like to know where


came from.

Life / Differences in Polish, American and British mentality [237]

Ok, En, your point has been made mute by Penn and Marynka, so cut your losses...

Life / Differences in Polish, American and British mentality [237]

So, in effect, what you're saying is, in the 80s, everyone in Poland with a respectable position was an incompetent party loyalist? That there was no point in getting education and being smart and working hard? That an "engineer" would get hired regardless of their qualifications? Following that line of thinking, the whole "educated" class was just a bunch of incompetent idiots. Obviously, you won't agree with that statement, and you will promptly give an example of someone you know or someone from your family who did well, got educated, etc. and was not an active communist, or socialist, or whatever there was. So, in essence, you can't apply a generalization to every individual out there. As I said, you don't know anything about Penn's father and yet you claim to know him better than his own son.

Life / Differences in Polish, American and British mentality [237]


I would like to know what makes you an expert on the realities of living in Poland in the 80s.

Life / Differences in Polish, American and British mentality [237]


you can't be serious, dude... Polish tanks and rocket launchers oppressing East German civilians, LOL!!! what a drama queen!

what is wrong with you, why are you assuming that Penn is lying? what is so unbelievable about an educated and experienced guy being promoted to a manager? or what is so despicable about a father who got a promotion and provide for his family? You have no right of judging people you never met and have no idea about their circumstances.

Life / Polish dentistry cost - 230 zl for one tooth cavity filling [99]


that's kind of interesting. are things really cheaper? and are people really prone to praying on foreigners?

Life / Polish dentistry cost - 230 zl for one tooth cavity filling [99]

LOL!!!
so, wait, you're a "tourist" and while on your way to see the royal palace, you decided that you need 8 fillings??? LOL! something's really not adding up here...

where are you from? I'm going to start a toothpaste business there...
anyway, I have no clue how much a dentist charges in Poland; PLN 1150 is like US$400. that's like $50/filling; I say you got yourself a bargain. Maybe because it was wholesale...

Life / Differences in Polish, American and British mentality [237]

true, there are generational differences with respect to any large population. I was questioning P's assumption that Havok belongs to a different generation... Anyway, you can't apply generational categories to individuals. There is a lot more that defines an individual than their date of birth. I know people in their 60's that are more open-minded and adaptable than some people in their 20s and 30s. But let's assume that people here on PF are indeed from a spectrum of generations - I can't seem to find the group that's siginificantly more open to different views or welcoming to people from different countries, so perhaps while other things change, that part remains the same.

Life / Differences in Polish, American and British mentality [237]


the supposed "different generation" statement is factually inaccurate, but nevertheless, almost every thread on PF confirms that those "complexes" persist. Differences of opinion are met with hostility; neutral statements get dissected and become the basis for wild speculations, obviously a lot of people here seem to have the need to prove that they're not any worse than other nationalities.

And yes, people here do pretend not to be Polish. I won't point fingers but if one has a Polish nickname and yet you say you're not only NOT from Poland, but you don't even speak Polish, there is something to think about. If people claim that English is their native language but their sentence structure or their vocabulary doesn't reflect that, there's something to think about.

I would still like to get people's opinion regarding my interview question. Btw, saying that someone's "brainwashed by psychology" doesn't make sense. Yes, Americans contributed a lot to the field of psychology, but you can't be brainwashed by psychology, any more than physics or biology... I'm guessing they meant "self-help" books. Yes, plenty of them are silly, I agree. But the question was not about psychology. It's a job interview, not a shrink session and the objective of an interview is to make the best impression on your potential future employer, not to reveal the inner workings of your psyche or expose your deeply-held religious views.

Life / Differences in Polish, American and British mentality [237]


half of that $20 is mine, anyway

Life / Differences in Polish, American and British mentality [237]


word!

Btw, there seems to be a whole crowd of people here on PF pretending not to be Polish, which speaks for itself.


That's a bit naive to say that, particularly after you've been explaining to people that money really does not grow on trees here...

So here's a good example of a difference in national mentalities: I was recently interviewing candidates for an open position with our company. I happened to talk to a few Americans, a Rusian, an Ethiopian, and an Irish (sounds like the beginning of a bad joke...) Anyway, I asked everyone the same questions, and one of them was, Do you believe we make our own luck? Funny thing, the Americans immediately said, Yes, absolutely, and followed with a few examples of how they did from their experience. The Russian and the Ethiopian said No, you can't control your fate, you can only do so much... The Irish guy took answered with something about God watching over us, or some other BS...

Would people in Poland say yes or no to that question?

Life / What is the reason for POLISH jokes ? [486]


i wasn't trying to prove that the Polish stereotype is correct, on the contrary, i was saying all stereotypes are wrong, you can't attribute one adjective to any large group of people.

anyway, what's your answer as to why?

Life / What is the reason for POLISH jokes ? [486]


well, let's think about it. if America is just such a bunch of idiots, how come it's one of the most successful countries, where the standard of living is much higher than so many other places, including Poland, and is a leader in many areas, scientifically, culturally, and militarily? What about all those people who were telling me, No, don't go to Poland, you'll be miserable there, when i mentioned this idea? How about those who left, learned something, and came back? Are they stupid for leaving or smart for coming back? Some of the most backwards countries are the ones that close their borders for people coming in (although I don't see all that many people trying to move to Poland as out of it), and leaving. It's simple, if you don't exchange ideas, you fall backwards, and there are many things that people outside Poland have figured out better and/or faster. Are you proposing everyone in Poland stays put and tries to reinvent the wheel? You yourself mentioned in other posts that Poland is way behind as far as economic development. There is nothing wrong about copying the best ideas out there, but you won't know them without leaving your country. As evidenced by a number of people here, if you haven't lived elsewhere, you have a pretty dim idea of how things work there and why people do what they do. What about the people who leave for better life and, subsequently, make life better for people they left behind in the "old country."

To say that only stupid people leave is such a load of bs, I can't imagine anyone with half a brain would actually say it out loud. You should be happy that some people are brave and enterprising, and open-minded enough to find out what's going on in other countries, because otherwise you wouldn't have a job.

Life / What is the reason for POLISH jokes ? [486]


lol, that's what a double standard! so when there's a stereotype about OTHER ethnicities, it's rooted in reality, but if there's one about Polish people, it can't be?

they are all false. there are as many stupid Polacks as there is stupid Irish, or stupid Chinese.


i think i have to agree with D for the first time ever

ok, question then, if Polish people are so incredibly disliked and picked on by the Americans, name one thing that happened in the past that was some kind of wide-spread and well-publicized (or even government-sponsored) action against them? Like against the Japanese, for example, or people from India or Pakistan, or the Irish?

Life / What is the reason for POLISH jokes ? [486]


you're assuming that the stereotypes are actually true...


I say "Mexican," you think "illegal." That is stereotypical thinking as well.

It's not about actual harm, it's about being "different." All recent immigrants are "different." There is no more Polish jokes than any other ethnic jokes. I know it's nice to feel special, but there is nothing special about it. In fact, many of the Polish jokes have variations where the "Polack" is interchangeable with "Italian," or "Texan," or "Canadian."

Life / What is the reason for POLISH jokes ? [486]



both examples tell me that you're talking about recent Polish immigrants. Yes, they do tend to stay together, although it's not a rule, there are exceptions. But most people who claim Polish origin are not recent immigrants. Even first-generation immigrants are predominantly not recent (i.e. past 10 years). The longer you stay here, the stronger ties you form with people outside your ethnic group.


ok, if anyone has an inferiority complex about being Polish, that should cure them...


no, not really. let me ask you, you're going to apply for a job, and the boss thinks all Polacks are stupid, all Mexicans are lazy, and all Irish are drunk. Is it better in this situation to be Polish, Mexican or Irish?