History / Poland - Scotland, the untold story... [75]


Thats right he was the grandson of James 11, who was deposed by William of Orange after he invaded England with the help of some English traitors.

History / Polish history is 100% glorious [297]

M-G that might be the Dutch view of what happened but not the true facts, King Billy as the Ulster Orange men call him. Invaded Britain with the help of seven English protestant politicians known as the Seven Immortals. One of them being Winston Churchill's ancestor, James11 was William's father-in law and uncle, and William was married to Mary James daughter, and Williams first cousin. The reason for the Invasion was James wife had a baby boy, which knocked Mary out of line for the succession for the throne. He arrived in Britain with an army of 16000 men,and was joined with an other army supplied by the English traitors. The rightful King was deposed he went to Ireland to raise an army, and was defeated at the Battle OF THE BOYNE. William was crowned King of England, and one of his first royal acts, was to sign a law that no catholic would ever be Prime Minister of England.

UK, Ireland / Hand washing at public toilets in the UK [75]


Easy solution buy some surgical gloves, put them on before you enter the public toilet, throw them away when you exit.

UK, Ireland / Hand washing at public toilets in the UK [75]


She's got so many arse lickers around her, she doesn't have to bother.

History / Endecja - State Sponsored Anti Semitism 1935 - 1939. [138]


Yes Modern Orthodox American Jews.

M-G In general the Americans I met I found a generious and kind people, with little comprehension as to what's happening in the rest of the world. Here is something that has always puzzled me, as you know I'm an old man. And I have known lots of Polish Christians and Polish Jews. And I can't remember any of them saying anything bad about each other, I am convinceded a lot of this crap came out during the USSR occupation of Poland, To pour scorn on the capitalist system, and to deflect the spotlight from their own ****** history.

UK, Ireland / Polish immigration in UK [491]

No we don't want the Turks, or any other F...er coming here and overloading the systems which are already in trouble. We need them as much as Germany needed Mussolini and the Turks as allies, I'm sure they were more of a hindrance then a help. And now this nutcase Cameron is pushing for a Muslim country from Asia Minor to join the EU. Britain's politicians have done more damage to Britain since the war, then Hitler did. The Turks will be a short time fix, and a long time headache. And I'm sure it's something he and Obama have stitched up together, when he was in the US.

Life / Cannabis / Weed in Poland... How much does marijuana cost per gram and how easy is to get it? [355]


Memory Lane, I remember going to a Pink Floyd gig in the early seventies, the laser show was great and the music was amazing. And we had a few joints before we went there, most likely Thai-sticks or Paki-black.

History / Endecja - State Sponsored Anti Semitism 1935 - 1939. [138]


Yes you are right I experienced the same thing myself in NY last month, and no matter what you say it will not register with them. All they wanted to talk about was what happened to the Jews in Poland, when they heard I was from Europe. They are convinced the camps were built by the Poles. When I told them the camps were built 1940 to concentrate, Polish slave labour to manufacture war materials for Germany, and the Jews did not come into the camps until 1942 they looked at me blank. As regards war dead the only people were they interested in were the six million Jews not the other 74 million. The next time I go to NY I won't cross the Brooklyn Bridge

History / Endecja - State Sponsored Anti Semitism 1935 - 1939. [138]


You are perfectly right zetigrek, orthodox Jews stay away from non Jews and secular Jews as much as possible. It is written in Torah that they should stay apart, they can do business but not socialize. Thats why 60% of the Jews is now secular. Judism was always a religion even before they left the Holy Land. So if Polish Jews were not Polish nationals what nationality were they?

Let me put it this way: Is Catholic a nationality? Hindu? Muslim? Mormon? If they are not why is Jewish a nationality?

I have posted a link which you might find of interest.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_20th-century_Poland

News / POLAND LEAVING WHAT COUNTRY FOR A BETTER LIFE?? [73]

I remember when they started the Common Market as it was called, people said it would turn out to be a rich mans club, and thats exactly what happened.

History / Endecja - State Sponsored Anti Semitism 1935 - 1939. [138]

I am most likely one of the few people on this forum who actually knew, and has spoken to Hasidic Jews who lived in Poland before the war. And what I have written above is what they told me happened. As you will know it is hard to mistake a Hasidic by the way they dress, they started to dress like that in the 18Th century. Some Polish prince gave them permission to do so, and they have continued to do so ever since. Yiddish was spoken most of the time in their enclaves, but they could speak Polish with an accent, like if a German was speaking Polish. If you knew there religion you would understand how they could not live with the greater population. All the Jews in the towns and cities living among the general public, would be secular Jews and speaking perfect Polish. A secular Jew is a Jew by tradition, and not religious.

History / Endecja - State Sponsored Anti Semitism 1935 - 1939. [138]


You have taken that quote from a Neo Nazi website "French Connection" what a sad person you are.

History / Endecja - State Sponsored Anti Semitism 1935 - 1939. [138]


Yiddish is a mixture of German and Hebrew, spoken by the Gerrer Chassidim who were the largest Jewish group in Poland. They are ultra orthodox and lived in closed communities, and only spoke yiddish. And polish with an accent, which was the downfall of some of the ones who tried to flee the Germans. The Polish Blue Police who worked along side the Germans could pick-up the accent.


M-G, Abraham Stern on behalf Jabotinsky the founder and leader of the Irgun, in February 1939 approached the Polish government with a plan to oust the British in Palestine. I idea was for the Poles to take over the mandate, and transfer the Jews to Palestine. And Palestine would become a homeland for the Jews, and a colony of Poland. The Polish government asked the British government and they refused.

Plan B, was for Poland to supply the Irgun with weapons to arm 40,000 Jewish volunteers already in place around Europe. And help establish an officers training camp, it was set up in the mountains of Zakofna South West Poland in the Spring of 1939. The guns were supplied and the camp started training Irgun officers and NCO'S, the was aim was to over throw the British in Palestine and transfer the Polish Jews. Jabotinsky had been warning Jews in Poland to get out because of what was happening in Germany but they would not listen. In late May the British rounded up the Irgun leaders, and the operation never took place. Jabotinsky set up a government in exile in the USA.

USA, Canada / Do Poles feel America is going down the drain? [149]


Convex do you mean only the ones on welfare? I do hate it when some people think they a right to produce kid after kid. And have the rest of society fund them. In Britain there are some people who have been on the dole for generations.

News / Pole loses language discrimination case in Germany; Scandalous! [97]


I agree he must have been slagging off the wife to the kids, and that is why he is not allowed see the kids unaccompanied. They have the same law in the UK, If he has been in Germany 30 years and teaches he must have a good command of German. He is trying it on, to make a bit of compensation and get back at the state.

UK, Ireland / Irish leaving Ireland again. Economy forcing them to immigrate [39]


It is very sad Aphrodisiac, nobody likes to leave their country but sometimes needs must


That will depend on the skills and the educational standards of the people who are leaving.


Well M-G you know what they say about Ireland "What you expected to happen won't happen, what you least expected to happen will happen" It must be something to do with the air, it drives people insane. Are you the same person now, as you were when you arrived six years ago.

I hope you will enjoy your sabbatical in the US, I have just got back and had a great time in DC and NY. Look after yourself, and take it easy.

History / Let's talk about the POLISH ARMY [64]


Nobody is asking you for sympathy Muslim.

Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [612]


Zimmy Poland was the only country occupied by Germany that had a death sentence for helping or sheltering a Jew. And Poland has the highest number of rightest among the genitals in the Holocaust Museum in Israel over 6000. Poland took the greatest bashing during the war, and was sold down the drain after the war. And the Jews should remember 80 million people died during the war. And the only victims we ever hear about are the Jews, this is not to minimise what happened what happened to the Jews, but the others should be remembered also.

Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [612]

Of course you are right the Jews would not write hate-literature about themselves, I was referring to the Christian educated classes. I am aware the Jews were used as political scape-goats, by the ruling classes, sometimes to redirect revolts againist themselves. And by the Church to emphasise that the way to salvation, lay with them the Christian Church. Other wise the Christians would have wiped them out in Europe long before that. The Jews were kept alive in Europe because they were an easy mark, to blame when time got tough.

I hope you are keeping well M-G and your health has improved.

Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [612]

In the 16th century most of the population could not read, I think some of the sentiments expressed by Martin Luther and the educated classes, who had access to Jewish scriptures and could read Hebrew or common Greek. Some of the writings are not nice reading for the Christians who considered themselves the true religion.

PS I hope you can understand this, I don't know how to put your quotes in boxes

Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [612]

Religious Jews live in Jewish enclaves because of their strict observance to the Torah, and the Talmud. Which would make it very difficult for them, to live within a Christian or secular neighborhood. Not impossible just very difficult, frum Jews (religious Jews) lives are completely governed by what is written in the Torah.

History / DID THE COMMUNIST GOVERNMENT OF POLAND CENSOR MAIL IN AND OUT OF POLAND [29]


M-G How well wired up for a war we all were during the cold war it was almost a case we knew the ICBMs were going to fly so lets get it over with. In 1977 my wife and I went Czechoslovakia it was very repressive the people were very nice but we could feel the underline hopelessness. When we spoke to them for any length of time they would tell us how unhappy they were. The beautiful city of Prague was in a sorry state for the want of maintenance the Soviets did not seem to have a maintenance program. We intended to stay a week after three days we had enough so we left and headed for Germany.

History / How Polish history is viewed by other countries textbooks [124]


I'm glad you do enjoy history I believe it is tremendously important to take pride in the achievements of ones country.


When my kids were young we were members of English Heritage because my wife and I thought it would bring history alive for them. And later on they told me it did help it gave them a visual impact when they learned about Kings and castles.


I never judge British people in a poor light my Grandparents on both sides are English my wife and children and Grandchildren are English. My brother and I are the only Paddies in the family it can get a bit hectic at family gatherings sometimes. As regards education I am well aware that we have a more highly educated class then we ever had. And I am proud of that because my girls and Grandchildren and my brother and sisters children are part of that group. What gives me the pip are people who are constantly running down the country like an old git I met at the library this morning and I told him to read some history.

History / DID THE COMMUNIST GOVERNMENT OF POLAND CENSOR MAIL IN AND OUT OF POLAND [29]


Darius that really makes sence I think when she showed me the latter it had a stamp marked censured. Its over fifty years ago so its looking back through the mists of time and she had been in the AK.


She used to send parcels with medicine and woolen jumpers from Marks and Spencer's but I think they all got there.


SeanBM thanks the link it is a fantastic thread and exactly what I wanted to know about Poland in those terrible times the author has done a wonderful job.


I never knew that what a bloody liberty!

History / How Polish history is viewed by other countries textbooks [124]


I suppose if I reversed the question and asked what the average Pole knows about British history I might get a similar response. And I take on board what you say about two periods of history a week your head crammed with dates and milestones in British history to get them through an exams. Made so uninteresting that a pupil would never want to pick up a history book again. I never picked up a history book until I was in my early twenties and funny enough that was about the Corn Laws.

History / How Polish history is viewed by other countries textbooks [124]

The average British or Irish person of my generation knew very little about the history of Poland. Except that Britain declared war on Germany because they invaded Poland (please note I said the average) people who knew more was because of family connections or Polish friends. When I tell people all Europe would be Muslim today if the Poles had not stop them they look at my with surprise.

News / "POLISH death camps" term used by "Parade Magazine" Anti-Polish Bigots [249]


I agree with what you say people have to take ownership of this protest themselves Which I have done today not as a Pole but as an Irishman I have written to the "Parade Magazine" stating my protest. I have never been to Auschwitz-Birkenau so I know nothing about the tour and I don't know if it is directed mainly at the Jewish victims and if the other victims are forgotten about. My friend was in a Nazi concentration camp and she told me about the lines of huts they were they were housed in mostly AK prisoners. And the terrible conditions they had to endure the starvation which caused their teeth to fall out and their periods to stop. She told me about an all woman orchestra that played at the camp I discovered only last week that Zorya was at Birkenau because that was the only camp with an all lady orchestra. She may have told me the name and I had forgotten It was over fifty years ago since she told me and she is no longer with us. I am now crying thinking of this and the insult to her and my other friends. I will stop now because I find it difficult to see the screen.

News / Poland gets a little bigger:) [82]


I wholeheartedly agree with you like the North of Ireland and the Republic of Ireland.

News / "POLISH death camps" term used by "Parade Magazine" Anti-Polish Bigots [249]


Hi skysoulmate I really enjoyed your post and thanks for the link to that nice Jewish lady. I have known many Poles most were of the generation who fought with General Anders and some with the AK. And only once did I ever here any anti Jewish comments made and that was by a guy who was brain damaged from the war. He used to blame the Jews for Hitler attacking Poland and to argue with him was a waste of time but the poor guy was damaged and who could blame them after a war like that.

Around this time the early sixty I did a lot of work for Jews mainly Polish Hasidic Jews one day I was talking to a young guy and an old man.The old man got upset and started to cry when he left us I asked my friend if I had upset him. He said no their is a lot of them cry when they talk about Poland because they are home sick. In the six months I worked in that area of London I can't remember anyone saying a bad word about Polish Christians. I was not aware about any anti-Jewish or anti-Christian feelings in Poland until I joined this forum.

I found this forum by accident looking for information on Poland to understand about the USSR occupation. To see if the Soviets tried to suppress the peoples religion and to hear it from from Poles and not get it second hand. Most of the guys I knew never saw Poland again a lot of them died in their sixties from chest complaints my mate said it was from the bad conditions in the gulags.

In my opinion it is totally unjust for that rag to refer to them as Polish Death Camps. Maybe it is the time for the Polish Government to make a direct challenge about the ownership of these sites. I don't see why Poland should have to suffer this insult when they had nothing to do with the construction of them and her citizens were murdered in them.