News / Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government [538]


I hope the Polish educational system doesn't abandon its focus upon the Humanities. Engineers are frightfully boring.

News / Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government [538]

Torq, I said they were boring that doesn't mean they don't serve some redeeming purpose. As for the abusive language you've used against me I must say that coming from you, an apologist for both the Habsburg imperialist domination of Southern Poland as well as the racist abomination that is Zionism, I don't feel you are qualified to judge me nor any other sane person on this discussion forum.

History / Were Nobles during Commonwealth constituting the Nation of Poland? [37]


Accumulating wealth wasn't the only way to be admitted into the slachta as it is said that common soldiers were sometimes enobled for bravery upon the battlefield. As for the story regarding their Sarmatian origins the szlachta didn't weave the story entirely themselves, rather a book, written by Tacitus at around 100 AD, was discovered in Herschfeld abbey and sent to Italy in 1455, this book became known as The Germania. The tome placed the Sarmatians to the East of the Germans in the place Poland now occupied and so the Szlachta inferred that the Sarmatians must be their ancestors. There may actually be some truth to this genealogical claim because there are words in Polish that linguists claim are of Iranian, rather than Slavic origin, such as the name of the pagan diety Swarog as well as the monotheistic Bogu. People in other places in Europe almost certainly have Sarmatian ancestry. It is said that the names "Serb" and "Croat" both originally designated Sarmatian warbands, and it is a definite fact that many Alans (another name for Sarmatians) settled in France in the area of Orleans. The most direct descendants of the Sarmatians alive today in Europe are the Ossets who still speak a Persian tongue. As for this thread's titular question the answer is certainly yes. The Commonwealth was a noble republic not a popular one.

Life / New Polish generation prefers black culture? [145]

Czesław Miłosz wrote that upon his arrival in the USA he found that African-Americans were like Poles. The creativity and emotional exuberance of both peoples are in stark contrast to uptight Anglo culture.

Life / New Polish generation prefers black culture? [145]


What did Miłosz say that demeans a nation, and which nation was demeaned?

Life / New Polish generation prefers black culture? [145]

It's true rock and roll has both black and white forebears but the term itself originated amongst black Americans as a coital euphamism before it was used to designate a genre of blues music. I think Polish youth like hip hop because it is a freer art-form than earlier styles of pop music and that appeals to the poetic unbound nature of their spirit.

Life / New Polish generation prefers black culture? [145]

Hip Hop music is clearly what the thread is about and mentioning it doesn't dumb down the discussion. Hip Hop is the aspect of American black culture that the Polish in question youth prefers. Baggy pants have been a part of white cultures from France to Kurdistan for centuries and are thus not specifically black, nor is smoking weed, nor is conspicous jewelry. What aspects of specifically black culture are Polish youth into besides Hip Hop music? Is there a youthful Polish craze for eating pork fat laden Soul Food? Are Polish youth attending Protestant churches and listening to the repetitive histrionics of a sweaty fopishly dressed peacher before joining the rest of the congregation in a boisterous gospel singalong whilst dancing? I think not.

Life / New Polish generation prefers black culture? [145]


If the Jatts are indeed descended from the Massagetae, as some ethnologists believe, then you, Cheesymac, maybe distantly related to the beloved Polish literary character Pan Zagloba.

Language / Is Polish amongst the best-sounding languages in the world? [123]

Swahili is widely acknowledged to be the language that sounds the most beautiful, and I am sure you all would agree if it wasn't developed by black people.

Language / Is Polish amongst the best-sounding languages in the world? [123]


Research it yourself you stupid Nazi transvestite and then go die.

Life / The Legacy of Polish Poster design [36]

Here in Southern California we have a museum named for the cowboy/actor Gene Autrey and several years ago they had an exhibition of Polish movie posters that had been created to advertise Amercan Westerns when they played in Poland. The quality of the graphic design on all of them was superb, as was the creativity they displayed. I.E. The poster for the Richard Harris film titled "A Man Called Horse" featured a bizzare looking horse/man that wasnt a classical centaur but rather had a man's body, a horse's head, and the look of agony. The most fascinating aspect of the exhibition was that the posters revealed the fact that Poles strongly identified, not with the cowboys of the movies, but with the indians. Now I see that this is totally understandable given Poland's history and style. The boastful, expertly equestrian, Plains Indians bedecked in feathers are actually very very similiar to Poles when one thinks about it.

Life / The Legacy of Polish Poster design [36]


The similarity between Plains Indians and Poles stems from an innate spirit of aristocratic cockiness that both peoples share which is essential rather than superficial.

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Life / The Legacy of Polish Poster design [36]



Ironside, you underestimate the complexity of the Plains Indian society. While it is true that their military technology was well behind that of their European contemporaries, when compared with their rival Indian tribes the Plains Indians look alot like Poles when compared with their European neighbors. The Plains Indians by having domesticated and militarized the horse became the central continental overlords of North America just as the Poles did in central Europe with their own variety of artillery supported equestrian based military technology. The parallels are there for anyone with eyes to see, but you insist upon the distinguishing the Plains Indians as primitive and the Poles as civilized in a myopic manner.

History / 'Defamation': The Anti-Semism Industry & Poland [188]


Because they have been negotiating the 2 state solution for 20 years and all that time the Zionists have been illegally settling the territory that the 2nd state is suppossed to occupy. Plastic, it is estimated that 2/3 of the money donated to Democrats for their election campaigns comes from Jews and 1/3 of the money donated to Republican candidates comes from Jews. Until there is campaign finance reform in America the Jewish minority will have our politicians in their pockets and this means that the Palestinians will remain dispossesed, because when it comes to their ethnic state in Palestine American Jews, who are otherwise mostly liberal and enlightened, become irrational racists.

Life / The Legacy of Polish Poster design [36]


Read my posts Ironside, I didn't say the Plains Indians were the military match for the winged hussars, but rather that the Plains Indians and the Poles have a similiar chivalrous spirit that resulted from a similiar equestrian tradition. The Polish posters I saw at the Autrey Museum indicated that some Poles felt this way too. You, on the other hand, seem to be mired in an outdated form of European chauvinism. Both peoples admirably defended their steppe lands against foreigners and both peoples lost, but they both kept their noble spirits alive. Indeed, I have paid the Poles a compliment by comparing them to warriors like the Souix, but if you want to be offended by having your ancestors compared to non-white aboriginal Americans, then so much the worse for you.

History / 'Defamation': The Anti-Semism Industry & Poland [188]


We need campaign finance reform and we need to be able to call racism racism even if it is Jews that are perpetrating it. I guess the insistance on using the 1967 boarders as a starting point for negotiations in Obama's speech this week was a bit of a start, but it is a sad testament to the power of the Zionist lobby that even such a meager bit of even-handedness is seen as an affront to the "special relationship" between the USA and the Zionist Entity. The tail will probably still wag the dog.

Genealogy / Polish DNA? Poles have the most genes in a group includes Balts, Macedonians and Greeks. [264]


Why does their calling themselves Macedonians bother you so Greco? Here in the USA many of our states have Native American names but no one gets upset when a non-Native American from say Kansas calls himself a Kansan. Places often keep their old names despite having newer residents.

Genealogy / Polish DNA? Poles have the most genes in a group includes Balts, Macedonians and Greeks. [264]


Tadjiks are not Turkics they are Indo-Europeans just like Poles and Greeks.

Genealogy / Polish DNA? Poles have the most genes in a group includes Balts, Macedonians and Greeks. [264]

Are you sure he agrees with you? Wouldn't Slavs living in Macedonia for hundreds of years now be able to call themselves Macedonians according to your reasoning, but that is exactly what Nick objecs to seeing it as:

Genealogy / Polish DNA? Poles have the most genes in a group includes Balts, Macedonians and Greeks. [264]


Are Slavophone Macedonians Slavs in your estimation? I assume not. If a Slav living in Macedonia could speak Greek and followed Greek customs would you ever call him a Macedonian?

Genealogy / Polish DNA? Poles have the most genes in a group includes Balts, Macedonians and Greeks. [264]


You are right Nick this is indeed ridiculous pseudo-philology. For it to be true, given the similarity of all the Slavic languages which indicates that they didn't diverge from proto-Slavic until around the start of the Common Era, then the Balkans would have to be the original Slavic homeland, which it clearly isn't because we know who was living there at the time and they weren't Slavs.

Genealogy / Polish DNA? Poles have the most genes in a group includes Balts, Macedonians and Greeks. [264]


People from Lesbos are still Lesbians. Their title became synonomous with girl on girl eroticism because the ancient lyric poetess Sappho, who composed verses on this theme, was from Lesbos.

Genealogy / Why are some Polish people dark complected, and others very light [511]

Sunlight didn't "increase" at the end of the Glacial Period. In fact people moved further and further north as the glaciers retreated and thus went into areas with more and more diffuse sunlight. This is because the curvature of the earth which is unchanging.

Genealogy / Why are some Polish people dark complected, and others very light [511]


The UV rays of the sun are not prevented from reaching one's skin by cloud cover.

Genealogy / Why are some Polish people dark complected, and others very light [511]


This is because the axis of the earth is tilted relative to the sun and thus the sun's rays are less diffuse in the Summer.

Genealogy / Polish DNA? Poles have the most genes in a group includes Balts, Macedonians and Greeks. [264]


Nietzsche claims Polish roots for himself in his book Ecce Homo.
As for the amateur ethnologist PolskiMoc's claims, it does seem probable that given the linguistic and genetic affinity of the Aryans (Indo-Europeans who went into South Asia) and the Slavs that they do indeed share the same ancestors, but in claiming that the Aryans were exclusively blond and blue-eyed he has bought into Nazi lies. THe blondest people on earth are not even Indo-European at all but rather Finnish. The Proto-Indo-Europeans were not from the extreme North but rather Anatolia or the Pontic Steppes in Southern Russia. When they migrated into northern Europe they interbred with the indigenous population and it is that indigenous population that was very blonde and red-haired. The darker Poles are more "Aryan" than the fair ones.

Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]


It means derived from topography. In your case from a bit of land that people see as a corner. The Spanish equivalent of your surname would be Rincon

Genealogy / Polish DNA? Poles have the most genes in a group includes Balts, Macedonians and Greeks. [264]


Pre-Indo-European Languages? How would a linguist go about studying such languages? Surely you must mean Proto-Indo-European. If so, then you are right about Baltic being the closest living language branch to Proto-Indo-European, but wrong about Slavic. The other language closest to Proto-Indo-European is Sanskrit, which died out as a lingua franca before the time of the Buddha but has been kept around in its ancient state, by the Brahmins, for saceradotal purposes .

Genealogy / Polish DNA? Poles have the most genes in a group includes Balts, Macedonians and Greeks. [264]


You are right Nick "Indo-European" is not the term that refers to the ethnic-racial group from which the Indo-European speakers originate. The proper term for the speakers of the original language from which all the other Indo-European languages can trace their genealogy is Proto-Indo-Europeans. No one knows what these people looked like and as they spread throughout Asia and Europe they interbred with the peoples already living in the places they migrated to, and so today's Indo-Europeans are all an ethnical mix with both Proto-Indo-European and non-Proto-Indo-European origins.

UK, Ireland / Poles in the UK, you know were the door is [105]


Gogol did have Polish ancestors but Nikolai Gogol hated Poles fanatically, see his novella Taras Bulba. Fyodor Dostoevsky was also a fanatical Russian nationalist who also maligned Poles in his stories, and his father's ancestors were Lithuanians not Poles. Charles Bukowski was a German-American.