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Posts by Lenka  

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Lenka   
3 Feb 2011
Life / Are Poles Dis-Loyal [58]

I think swearing allegiance to a foreign power does amount to betrayal. Living elsewhere - no problem. But when you pledge allegiance to a foreign power...well. Lenka:

But sometimes it was the only way to stay alive.Maybe it's not very honorable but I can understand it.

And this is why sadly wjhy many of those peasant rednecks that moved to North America now look down on people here. I've noticed time and time again - people seem to think that Poland owes them something because they sent a few dollars over here.

They helped but if they think they are better just because of that then they are just idiots and we shouldn't care.
Lenka   
6 Feb 2011
Language / Rzeczpospolita Polska - translation? [42]

Erm, it's an exact(ish) word-for-word substitution, no?

Yes it is.And the word commonwealth was typically English invention.In Polish it was also Rzeczpospolita.
Lenka   
14 Feb 2011
News / Which modern developments harm Poland? [83]

What I think is the worst? The rat race, the "always be first and the best" attitude, if you're not original and popular than you're nothing...Many things...Mostly the attitude that you have to be Someone.
Lenka   
14 Feb 2011
News / Which modern developments harm Poland? [83]

Who is the blame: parents, the school, the church, the media, peer pressure?

Parents.Who else?Why the school or the church?

Check out the Amish/Plain People stuff on another thread. They get by without all that crap and are probably happier and much richer in themselves for it.

I agree but I wouldn't give up my PC :)

Nevertheless, a bank in Poland (a well known one) did a very private survey of their richest 10% of clients a few years ago and were surprised that over half of them hadn't been abroad, even for a holiday, in the past 10 years and tended to drive mid-range cars.

I always thought that REALLY rich ppl don't show off.They have big money but they don't have to brag about it-they know what they have.

There is beautiful word in Polish:nowobogaccy (nem money)-that's the kind of ppl that always talks abot what they have.
Lenka   
14 Feb 2011
News / Which modern developments harm Poland? [83]

The media?

Media give opportunities but it's parents job to raise their children.

What you don't understand is that during "communism " times it was (and still is) much better for you not to show off.I know a guy easily worth 10 milions PLN and he is driving 95 VW Passat and when you ask him how is he doing he will tell you that he is not doing good at all.

I think it's not that.Ppl with class don't show off and it has nothing to do with communism-it was always a
faux pas to be flashy.

We say "Nouveau riche"

We have nuworysze but it's about ppl who were promoted to the upper class(by money or education) but are still not accepted there.The word nowobogaccy means ppl that are wealthy but stupid and with bad taste.
Lenka   
15 Feb 2011
USA, Canada / Expat Poles swearing allegiance to the US - how did you feel? [157]

It's just a saying not some bloody Satanic ritual..

It's not just a saying if you respect yourself and what you swear.And the problem with swearing allegiance every day is that you forget that you give your word of honor and it becomes just a sentence like some poem that you have to say.

I'm not embarrassed of swearing allegiance to the US and I have no regrets.

Give me one reason why I should feel different about it.

You shouldn't but what if you're also emotionally connected with different country?I'm not saying that you like it better but just the same?You have to repudiate the other country or lie.

It’s a really silly question anyways.

No,it's not

Just because you’re miserable in your own country it doesn’t mean that I have to be miserable living in mine.

Noone said that you should feel miserable.I'm happy in Poland but it's interesting for me to hear from the immigrants in the US how they felt in that precise moment.

Come on, where do you draw the line at patriotism and brainwashing?

When you force ppl to do what they don't want to do or when you "love" your country so much that you hate other nations.
Lenka   
16 Feb 2011
USA, Canada / Expat Poles swearing allegiance to the US - how did you feel? [157]

You've asked, here is my honest answer.

And I'm happy you did it.

I can't say that I'm emotionally connected with Poland in a positive way. Draw your own conclusions.

You don't want to live in Poland or have anything to do with this country and that's ok but there are ppl that are emotionally connected with 2 countries and that's when the problem begins.

What you've got going for you in Poland if i may ask?

This is very reasonable question and maybe someone can answer that but I cannot.For me it's more about emotions than reason.I like to travel but every time I come back to Poland I feel that that's my place on Earth.I know that in some countries my life would be easier but that is not important for me.
Lenka   
16 Feb 2011
USA, Canada / Expat Poles swearing allegiance to the US - how did you feel? [157]

They're unhappy, hate the weather, cost of living, whatever, yet they continue to sit in the damn place year after year.

Who said that I'm unhappy?That's not the case with me.I'm perfectly happy.That's why I stay in Poland-because I'm happier here that in other places.And when you say that ppl hate sth in their countries...every place on Earth has some downsides and the only choice we have is the type of disadvantages.

I guess it's just that "home is where the heart is" mentality

That's exactly what it is.

I'll never understand putting yourself through a subpar life just so you can visit mommy and daddy more often. Live for yourself first because nobody else will, that's what I always say.

And what if that's exactly what you want to do?You are living your life if you're doing things that make you happy.Even if the thing that makes you happy is visiting your family.
Lenka   
16 Feb 2011
USA, Canada / Expat Poles swearing allegiance to the US - how did you feel? [157]

You can see this in Poland so much - I know several people who don't want to work far away, because they wouldn't be able to go home at the weekends. It's the same absurd reason that means students get such big discounts on the trains - because they would whine and complain if they couldn't go home every weekend.

I don't think it's crazy when you want to spend time with ppl that are important for you.On the other hand many students don't go to home for weekends because of love but for money and food :)
Lenka   
16 Feb 2011
USA, Canada / Expat Poles swearing allegiance to the US - how did you feel? [157]

It seems obvious that those that have, or are applying for, second citizenship, do not have a real problem with the oath. Some might wish the wording was a bit different, but that's not going to stop them from their goal.

Yes,for many ppl their goal is more important than some oath.I understand it and accept this.That's why it would be interesting to know what emigrants think of the pledge.

The group that says the oath is a betrayal, seems much more suspect. My guess is that they do not have much of a chance of obtaining a second citizenship to start with.

I wouldn't say that.My friend's mother applied for German citizenship for her daughter and when papers came my friend refused to take German passport.Also,one of my teachers could have U.S. citizenship because of her husband but instead they're both living in Poland.
Lenka   
18 Feb 2011
USA, Canada / Expat Poles swearing allegiance to the US - how did you feel? [157]

So someone asked you why you continue to stay in Poland.....and you don't even know why.

I know why but it has nothing to do with material things. I like living in Poland,I like Polish mentality, I like to be close with family and friends.

You could live better in other countries, provide for yourself better, give your children or future children a better life, have a better/easier lifestyle, yet you just can't seem to pull yourself away.

I said easier not better.Yes,I could get better money,maybe a better job (just maybe bcs I have humanistic mind and good international jobs are usually for ppl with degree in science),but that's not all.As for a lifestyle...I don't know if it would be easier or better.Children...even if we assume that life in other country is better now who can give me a guarantee that it will be also a better place for my children?

Deep, incredibly dependent emotional attachments to mommy and daddy to the point where they'll give themselves along with their children a life several steps down from what it could be, all so they can eat mom's pierogi and piernik.

You don't choose what your feelings are.But even if we could choose it's a matter of priorities.For me family is really important and I like to be close to them.

Even when I was 16 or 17 I thought that I'll go abroad but only for a year or two.I like to walk through my town and think that every place is familiar,that everything brings memories.

I'll never understand it but if that's the life you choose, you must accept the consequences.

I know that my decisions have their consequences and it's not like I don't think what the pros and coins are. Maybe I'll change my mind someday but as for now...I'm happy that I'm living in Poland.

P.S. Sorry it took me so long to respond but I'm not here everyday.
Lenka   
20 Feb 2011
News / Which modern developments harm Poland? [83]

I have yet to see a priest in Poland who doesnt have a new car

Your only chance for that is to watch "Ojciec Mateusz" :D
Lenka   
22 Feb 2011
Language / An email translated from Polish to English using translator [24]

but it isn't and Pan is capitalized thus it's "you"

It can have capital letter because of respect not to the person who he wrote to but to the man he met.And some ppl have so strongly in mind that it's impolite to write about someone in small letters that they always write in capital letters.

One of them was a gentleman or a businessman looking for ideas..

I think this is the right translation.
Lenka   
23 Feb 2011
News / Which modern developments harm Poland? [83]

No, I'm tired of scams, ploys, sucker traps, false advertising claims, celebrity claptrap, commercialist popculture and, above all, of those who divide the world into 'us, the movers and shakers' and all the rest just ripe to fleece.

And you have every right to feel tired but this things are nothing new.Just look how religions are used and were used forever.Or how kings ruled their countries.They thought that they know better and even forced ppl to do as they wanted them to live.Commercials and pop stars were always present only in different proportion.Even monkeys are vulnerable to fashion.
Lenka   
23 Feb 2011
News / Which modern developments harm Poland? [83]

Everybody has their set of likes and dislikes but what does that have to do with anything?

And you can learn what type of person your interlocutore is.For example:

Jan Pośpieszalski TV talk show...

That suggests that you prefer right wing ergo you're probably a conservative type ergo you're not really in new ideas,new style of life.
Lenka   
26 Mar 2011
Feedback / Why PolishForums? Give us your stories! [60]

I'm not sure but I think I typed Poland in google to see what sites will appear and that's how I found PF.At first I was just reading and observing and after a while I registered.
Lenka   
27 Apr 2011
News / Raising Poland's legal drinking age to 21 [95]

I don't think it's a good idea. What's forbidden is more appealing. What's more if you raise legal drinking age you should also raise the age in other regulations.It's funny if you can vote and join the army but you can't drink.
Lenka   
27 Apr 2011
Life / How could things have gone so wrong (Poland church dress code) [195]

Church territory-church rules.If you don't like it simply don't go there.Every intelligent person knows how to behave and knows,that in some situations and places you must behave in a certain way no matter what you think of that (e.g. you think that dress code is stupid)

if the male should be covered for modesty and respect, then so should the female.

Of course they should but many girls are like the author of this thread.
Lenka   
30 Apr 2011
Life / "Tele PRLe" Are they Kidding! [6]

My family also didn't feel opressed.It was hard but not so bad .And you are shocked that ppl joke about PRL?They were joking about it even during PRL times so I don't understand why you started this thread.
Lenka   
2 May 2011
History / Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians? [869]

The young ones, under say 60, don't know what the Polish people had to put up with both the Russians, and the Germans. They need read the history of Poland, more so the last 75 years, than they will understan.

I understand but I don't think I should hate these nationalities because of that.Hating someone I've never met and know nothing about? It's simply ridiculous.

or Poles should hate Czechs. Learn history people!!!!!

Yeah,I'm sure they should be even grateful for our huge help before, during and after the WWII.
Lenka   
2 May 2011
Love / Polish songs to say sorry [13]

youtube.com/watch?v=zqco6hhRCD0

Lyrics:
Przepraszam cię
za mój flirt, za kłamstwa uparte
jakże twojej miłości nie warte,
moja dobra, najlepsza!
Przepraszam cię

Może...

Do you want translation?
Lenka   
2 May 2011
Love / Polish songs to say sorry [13]

I,m not a poet so my translation won't be the work of art-sorry for that :) :
I'm sorry
for my flirting and for my stubborn lies
they are so not worth your love
my good, the best (author is refering to his girl .it's like dear,dearest)
I'm sorry
for your tears unneeded to anyone
for my late returns to home
let's go back to peaceful harbour
like never,no-one,lovers.
my good,the best
for not sleeping during long nights
for waiting for me during the day
For all the things you don't know about
for all the things I know about - I'm sorry
Maybe...

Then he speaks to other men about saying sorry but I never send you that part (even in Polish) because I assumed that it won't interest you. I have a bad day so it's not good translation but I hope it'll help you. Good luck with your girl.

Rather not because in chorus there is something like that:I'm sorry but ce la vie! I can't change the way I am. I'm sorry but ce la vie. I will learn to breathe without you.

You are perfectly right.I thought about that song but I've read the lyrics and chose another instead.
Lenka   
2 May 2011
Love / Polish songs to say sorry [13]

has put a smile on someones face :)

That really makes this day a little bit better :)
Lenka   
2 May 2011
Love / Polish songs to say sorry [13]

Bartolome
Did you read his post or are you deliberately trying to make fun of him?
Lenka   
2 May 2011
Love / Polish songs to say sorry [13]

I'm probably over-sensitive but I didn't know how fluent you are in Polish.I shoud have know better :)
Lenka   
3 May 2011
Love / Polish songs to say sorry [13]

Bartolome
He noticed it all by himself:

I saw his post I saw the funny side of it

but I will be more careful in the future.I will just close my eyes when your name will appear on the screen ;)