Life / Why oh Why do Poles drive so incredibly poorly [100]

OK now I see you actually ARE drunk, therefore no point in continuing conversation.
bye. Have a nice kac.

Life / Why oh Why do Poles drive so incredibly poorly [100]


why do you insist on that? No my life is not miserable. Now stop being so hateful yourself and pour yourself another vodka. Sad little man.

In fact the Polish people in my family and of my acquaintance DID put me off drinking. Sorry if the truth upsets you.

Life / Why oh Why do Poles drive so incredibly poorly [100]

in fact i don't drink these days, the Polish put me off..
I made that comment about your English because you were claiming that something you had written had a quite different meaning to the words on the page...ergo either your English must be shyte or you are babbling nonsense.

Life / Why oh Why do Poles drive so incredibly poorly [100]

nobody said they were the 'worst in Europe', they merely gave their anecdotes and opinions, and you got unreasonably upset by that.
Step away from the bottle, do yourself a favour.
Sure you can make your little attempts to patronise me, if that's how you like to relate to people, but it's still pathetic.

Life / Why oh Why do Poles drive so incredibly poorly [100]


well perhaps i could put it down to your poor use of English, but I doubt it. You know exactly what you said, dont try and backtrack and blame me now.

I am perfectly objective thank you. Do not try and patronise me, it's pathetic.

I wondered if you were stoned or drunk because you dont really sound quite rational or...normal.., and you sound rather spiteful, if you want to know.

Life / Why oh Why do Poles drive so incredibly poorly [100]

is it drink Pawian? Have you started early?
It's really odd coming to a forum where people give their opinions, to give an opinion, only to be told that you are here to 'present the black side of your miserable life'.

Projection perhaps.

Life / Why oh Why do Poles drive so incredibly poorly [100]

yes, well that bit is true. Again, it's fact. If one sees that shaved head and little roll of neckfat on the bod behind the wheel, one hangs back..:)

Look i am not saying that Polish are the ONLY bad drivers in the UK, but if there were a 'top ten' they would be up there, along with Indian geriatrics. I am quite sure that in India at some point in the past, one just bought a licence, with no test..

Are you misunderstanding me wilfully Pawian? We know some English run riot when abroad. Me denying that is like you denying that some Polish drivers are atrocious, and arrogant with it.

Life / Why oh Why do Poles drive so incredibly poorly [100]

Sex (not gender) has everything to do with being dismissed as 'hysterical' and 'having a mental condition'.just because you have an opinion. Check your arrogant responses.

I dont come here to present the black side of anyone's miserable life, thank you. My life is far from miserable. I was responding to the thread title, because it IS an issue round here, sorry if you dont care for facts and the reality of other peop-le's lives in countries where you dont live.

It's like if some Polish person said that they were upset by the English drinking too much in Krakow. I wouldnt tell them it was their imagination and they they were quite wrong about the English, because it is their lived experience

Life / Why oh Why do Poles drive so incredibly poorly [100]

Pawian, in the course of this conversation you have dismissed my lived experience as 'imagination' ' my bad day' 'forgetfulness' and 'hysteria', and that i 'have a mental condition'. Just WTF?

I have really hit a nerve haven't I?
Would you talk to another man like that? I dont think so.
Get a grip of your responses and some self awareness.

I am merely reporting what i have observed, in the country where I , you know..live.

Life / Why oh Why do Poles drive so incredibly poorly [100]

Yes they drive their cars from Poland.
YOu are right, the ones that drive with UK plates are even scarier, because they cant be identified.

Life / Why oh Why do Poles drive so incredibly poorly [100]

why? because there are so many Polish drivers round here. Local slaughterhouse y'see. Attracts them like wasps to a sugar pot.
Other reasons i cannot go into here.

Life / Why oh Why do Poles drive so incredibly poorly [100]


i might be slightly biased, I admit, but in my wide driving experience Polish drivers in the UK are fecking awful, with little consideration for other road users.

I don't hang back/ resist overtaking for fun, or because of my "imagination", or '"my bad day" (whatever that means?)

No, it is for practical and real reasons.

There, is that better?

Life / Why oh Why do Poles drive so incredibly poorly [100]

'lay off the smoke' = stop smoking marijuana

Life / Why oh Why do Poles drive so incredibly poorly [100]

oh lay off the smoke, Pawian.
Milo and I see Polish drivers on a daily basis and it's no fun.
Strangely it is never Polish women at the wheel, only men...:)
I suppose I could do some academic research into it, but I doubt I would get the funding, tbh.

Life / Why oh Why do Poles drive so incredibly poorly [100]


no, I am merely reporting what i have regularly observed as a long term driver in the UK. Sorry if that hurts your feelz but i cant help that , nor do I care.

Life / Why oh Why do Poles drive so incredibly poorly [100]

If Polish drivers cannot adjust to driving on the correct side of the road for the country they are in, then they shouldnt drive, frankly. I have driven in Czechia and whining 'ooh i am not used to it' is no excuse for poor driving.

And frankly Pawian, you DO sound very arrogant, as ever, just dismissing my experience as 'imagination and forgetfulness'...what kind of response is that?

Not sure where you have stayed Lenka, maybe West Wales...? :D Mostly our motorways and A roads are pretty good.

Life / Why oh Why do Poles drive so incredibly poorly [100]

who drives in the UK? you or me?
oh yes , it is me. Hardly my imagination.
Your comments merely back up what i said about arrogance.
Maybe some Polish drivers dont think that UK driving rules apply to them, i dont know.

Life / Why oh Why do Poles drive so incredibly poorly [100]

is it? why?

I think that Poland must have the lowest driving standards in Europe, from what I have seen.

And yet at the same time, some of the most arrogant drivers. I am honestly curious about it.

Life / Why oh Why do Poles drive so incredibly poorly [100]

oh no we don't have to do that in the UK. There are plenty of foreign plates, and they are fine. It is just the Polish ones that really need avoiding.

Or perhaps it is the mentality, I dont know.

Life / Why oh Why do Poles drive so incredibly poorly [100]

because people drive more slowly.....

Life / Why oh Why do Poles drive so incredibly poorly [100]

I think the test must be an incredibly low standard, tbh. I believe, for example, that the test requires action on a skid pan. What a waste of time, that wd be better spent learning about observations and consideration for other drivers, neither of which seem to exist in Polish driver training.

If i am driving here in the UK I would never overtake a truck with Polish plates, as they have zero awareness of or care about their massive blind spot, and if I see a car with Polish plates, I will hang back or even take a different route so i don't have to drive anywhere near them.

I am not being nasty, just honest.

Life / Mishmash facts about Poland and Poles [124]


yes, the clocks changed on saturday night. Something to do with giving farmers more daylight, apparently.

UK, Ireland / Why are Polish people, especially women, so disrespectful toward the English? [437]


frankly, you were lucky to be even taken on. Our local meat facttory send recruitment teams to Romania and Bulgaria, while HR ( a Polish woman) routinely ignores applications from Brits, even while there is a massive sign outside saying 'we're hiring'. Might as well say 'we're hiring, but not Brits'.

Polonia / Poland and France cultures are similar [112]


well, apart from the ones that were deported to Auschwitz, that is.
That is what happened to many Polish and others who had moved to France, thinking it was a civilized place.
[url=en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vel%27_d%27Hiv_Roundup][/url]
Mind you i suppose it could have happened anywhere...

Polonia / Poland and France cultures are similar [112]

Yes i love the way France has 'stolen' Maria Sklodowska by trying to turn her into some kind of 'add-on' to Pierre Curie, when in fact he was her assistant.

Ditto with Chopin.

Polonia / Poland and France cultures are similar [112]

i dont see anything about France and Poland to compare. France owned a large chunk of the world and told the people there that their ancestors were 'Gauls' - Poland never had any colonies. (sorry, have been reading Ryszard Kapuscinski)

French are mostly mixed race, Polish are not.

France has carried out savage colonial wars, Poland obviously has not.

French people don't wash, and Polish do.

Need i go on?

Life / Why are Poles in other countries called "Plastic Poles"? [168]


yeh it's a Brit invention coined to describe the kind of Irish people that were born in the UK, but ham up the Irishness. ( as 'Plastic Paddy')

Life / Why are Poles in other countries called "Plastic Poles"? [168]


:D :D perhaps they are...lol

some things are grossly exaggerated by the press though, Dirk, you must know that.

Dont mention the BBC licence though , I may start foaming at the mouth"!

Life / Why are Poles in other countries called "Plastic Poles"? [168]

USA has its own problems of a slightly different nature. As i said, the reason why 1 in 5 Muslims (might be) Muslim, is the same reason that you are speaking English to me now <shrugs> - not a silly comment at all but rather germane to this thread.

Read a little history.

Life / Why are Poles in other countries called "Plastic Poles"? [168]

Joker, the USA is a histhole and so is the UK. Let's not make it into a 'which country is histier' competition. Btw i am not and have never been an 'expat'. I wouldnt use that word anyway for old Brit men who married Polish women and got stuck there, it's far too glamourous.

As i have pointed out before, the UK 'Muslim problem' comes from the same reason that you speak English. Get over it.,