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Puzzler   
5 Jan 2008
Food / What is your favorite Polish Vodka? [653]

Starogardzka wódka

- I've never tried this one. But, I expect, it can't be bad; I have never met with any bad Polish vodka. I suspect no Polish vodka can ever be as bad as e.g. Smirnoff.

What do you think, Wroclaw?
:)
Puzzler   
4 Jan 2008
Food / What is your favorite Polish Vodka? [653]

the_falkster

- Falkster - the really nice German mate is back - so nice. I feared you've given up on us, mate. Wilkommen und prosit!
;)

Sounds Nice Puzz. Your place or mine? Maybe Neutral?

- Are there any neutral spots nowadays? All's so politicised. Just kiddin.' I should be in Canada in the summer, otherwise we can meet in Poland (Bialystok, for instance?), whenever you're visiting, or in Cork, Ireland. Cheers, mate. I'm really looking forward.

:)
Puzzler   
4 Jan 2008
Food / What is your favorite Polish Vodka? [653]

regular Polish Żytnia, Stołowa, or Vistula

- Good stuff too.
:)

I would have to agree. I gave a bottle to some very close friends at Christmas, and hope to receive an invitation to help them crack it open!

- Excellent choice, Shawnie. Maybe one day we'll crack one together?
;)

Sorry i don't speak Polish

- It's never too late to learn, brother. Powodzenia (good luck) with picking out the right vodka.
:)
Puzzler   
4 Jan 2008
Food / What is your favorite Polish Vodka? [653]

Which is the best Polish vodka for my dad's birthday??

- I would recommend Belvedere. The bottle is beautiful too - long and thin, with the inward picture of the Warsaw Belweder palace (Baroque style), magnified by the liquid. No to cyk i sto lat!

;)
Puzzler   
16 Dec 2007
Life / Poles - the Nation of Liars? [478]

Just a work of advice if you dealing with offices,baanks red tape in Poland "nie posmarujesz nie pojedziesz

- Maybe it was so during communism, but today doesn't seem to be the case. I have never had any experience of this sort in new Poland. Have you, Gosiaa from sydney? If so, share it wih us, please.

:)
Puzzler   
16 Dec 2007
Language / "Poles" or "Polish people" - which is better to use? [200]

One minute they hate the Germans and then want to profit from such sales.

- The pig calling itself 'Muckal' hates the Polish people, but sticks to this forum like pig crap, and even plays an expert on things Polish such as Polish language. Needless to say, the pig is totally ignorant about those things. What a mentally confused pig. Why doesn't the great heaven bless the pig with a cancer and finish it off quickly?

:)
Puzzler   
12 Dec 2007
Life / Which nations do Poles like the most / the least? [150]

No for sure not. I've met many Germans and I can't tell they're Nazis

- You haven't comprehended it right, my smart darling. I meant: aren't you wrong when you're assuming that for me all Germans are Nazis?

I hope you get this one; if still not, I'll attempt to elucidate even further.
:)
Puzzler   
9 Dec 2007
Life / Which nations do Poles like the most / the least? [150]

Sorry, but from my personal contacts with educated Polish people I'd say they have a far greater interest in Russian culture than their American counterparts

- I wonder how many such Poles you've met? I wonder if their number is large enough to make generalisations about all Poles? From my own experience - and I can back it up with tons of supporting evidence - many American educated people have a far more admiring attitude towards Russian culture than Poles. Yes, American Russophiles are Russophiles indeed.

Isn't suspicion and fear really the same thing?

- Nope, it doesn't seem to be. - Suspicion denotes thinking ahead and the ability to act in one's defense; fear seems to denote lack of clear thinking and helplessness.

a lot of Poles admire Germans in a weird way

- Can you give any specific examples of this alleged 'weird' admiration? Well, yes, many of us (not me!) admire some of the things they make, such as cars, but you Americans also admire them, don't you? Would you call the American admiration 'weird' too?

Personally, I'm more afraid of my local Polish officials, who can make your life hell at the drop of a hat, than of anything today's Germans could do

- So your suggestion is that the Polish officials can be worse than Nazi Germans? :)

But would you agree that officials in any country, including (and especially) those in the US, can make one's life hell? Would you say that American officals are better in this respect than their Polish counterparts...?

As for our suspicions towards Germany, they are not irrational at all. I can see you don't know them, or perhaps refuse to acknowledge them?

By the way, the German suspicions towards us appear irrational and crazy indeed. It's Polonophobia at its worst. For instance, have you heard about the recent mass hysteria in Germany at the news that Poland and the Czech Republic are to join the Schengen zone on 21 December?
Puzzler   
8 Dec 2007
Life / Which nations do Poles like the most / the least? [150]

I think a lot of Poles like Russians and Russian culture

- I myself do not think so. During communism, yes, there was such a massive pro-Russian propaganda in the Russian-ruled 'Polish People's Republic' and certainly many communists were Russophiles. But the vast majority of Poles, including Polish intelligentsia, had no interest whatsoever in Pushkin, Tolstoy, Tchaikovsky, Eisenstein, and the rest of the bunch. And the Russian language, compulsory in schools, was hated and derided. And today our attitude towards things Russian appears even worse - total indifference, I would think.

As for the Germans, I don't think we are really afraid of them and admire them. We definitely do not like them and look suspiciously at them - and for good reasons.

Do you, cyg, like Russians and Russian culture, and fear and admire the Germans?
:)
PS. In the past there was some interest in Dostoyevsky - partly due to snobism (Sartre liked him!), and partly, perhaps, due to his Polish extraction (he himself denied frantically that he was of Polish origin :)).

There's a nation that, I think, should not be missing on General's list: the Portugese. Based on my own personal encounters, I regard them as nice gentle hospitable people, not Polonophobic at all. They're missing on the list perhaps because Polish-Portugese relations used to be limited in the past (the Cold War, etc.).

Yes, I always find the Greeks a funny lot with a bit of a 'chip on their shoulders'

- The Polonophobic oinky pretending-to-be-English is Greekophobic too!
:)

Ireland
England

- Both number one with me, Puzzler (I don't know Scots and Welsh well enough, so sorry for skipping them for the time being).
:)
Puzzler   
8 Dec 2007
Life / Which nations do Poles like the most / the least? [150]

We should like the Finns much more, which means getting to know them better. They don't seem Polonophobic at all. The Finns are one of the nicest nations I've ever met.

Japan

- Reportedly, our great military leader Pilsudski (beat up the Russian invaders in 1920) greatly admired Bushido.
Puzzler   
6 Dec 2007
Life / Poles - the Nation of Liars? [478]

Having lived here for 5 years i have to agree with Wroclaw Boy, seems to me that in Poland it is seen as a weakness to admit you were wrong or say sorry and so people just lie to cover up

- I was born in Poland and visit the country and stay in it for long periods, and haven't seen any evidence justifying your sweeping generalisations. The behaviour of Poles in UK is also proof of their, actually, honesty and truthfulness. Many Brit employers highly value these traits in Poles. So how is it - have you made up your sweeping generalisation just to argue a bit? You know, generalisations should be backed by evidence. Have you got any, pal? I know numerous cases when Brits have lied to Poles shamelessly and conned them without mercy. Should I make sweeping pseudo-psychological and pseudo-sociological generalisations based on this fact?

I know of one unfortunate expat

- So you used this single case to base on it your sweeping generalisations about the Poles?

I wish such types as yourself didn't live in my country. And yes, if Poles are such a lying dishonest lot, why on earth you have been living 5 years in Poland?

You know, pal, you are the one here who appear to be dishonest and a liar.
Puzzler   
6 Dec 2007
Life / Poles - the Nation of Liars? [478]

i'm wondering what cross section of polish people wroclaw boy is frequenting among

- Wroclaw Boy appears to me a kind of chauvinistic Brit. He defends his nationalistic convictions by putting down the Poles. It's unfortunate indeed. (Many other folks from so-called Western Europe seem to function exactly the same - the relict of the Cold War stereotyping and hate propaganda, still carried on by many media psychopaths). Now, it's a fact that there are many Brits who treat fairly Polish people residing in Britain, but there are also scores of those who dupe them and exploit without mercy, not to mention crude insults, beatings, and killings. There are countless press reports in Poland and statements by Poles on Polish chat sites about this. Should we Poles, therefore, assume that ALL Brits, or even the majority of them, are nation of liars, exploiters, racists and killers? Of course not. By the way, are any Brits residing in Poland treated even one thousandth as bad as some Poles residing in Britain?
Puzzler   
1 Dec 2007
Life / Poles - the Nation of Liars? [478]

the red tape that it is a pain in the ass

- That's right, buddy. The red tape is a pain on the a$$ anywhere at all.
Puzzler   
1 Dec 2007
Life / Poles - the Nation of Liars? [478]

Sorry folks but the Poles are a Nation of liars

- Isn't the above a lie? Should I, based on your statement, generalise that yours is a nation of liars?

Actually, the Poles are certainly one of the most vilified nations by some nations....

What really annoys me is that millions of Poles have succesfully made the move to England, Scotland and Ireland over the past few years and its so simple for them. They have extremely informative web sites explaining all issues invloved in such a move.

- Also many foreigners, like yourself, have - I imagine successfully - moved to Poland, and I imagine it wasn't too hard for them. Should I feel really annoyed about it?

And what 'extremely informative websites' for Poles explaining all issues pertaining to moving to England, Ireland and Scotland do you mean, mate? :)

For me in Poland the simplest issues such as buying a house organising car insurance even a visa has been blown into the biggest nightmare.

- Don't you grossly exaggerate with this 'biggest nightmare'? Have you been to other countries? E.g. I know Polish people in England waiting for the National Insurance Number 1 year or longer. Every time they inquire with the appropriate officials, they are being send from the pillar to the post. When I tried to open an account in one of the banks, I had to provide, apart from any ID I had, also verbal references - just tell I knew one respectable person in the town I lived in, and then I had to wait for the decision for a week or so. Then they asked me for another ID, another document, another bill... Have you ever tried to get on the Ryanair plane heading from Stansted to Poland? Have you seen how some Polish people - perfectly alright folks - are treated by some of the creeps in yellow vests with the words 'Here to Help' or something like that on them? I can give thousands of similar examples from various countries I've visited.

Therefore, let me ask you perfectly honestly, without any sweet lies: aren't you a bit megalomaniac as regards your own country, and aren't you using a double-standard as regards Poland?

And yes, some Polish office employees are often arrogant and not very helpful, and it's indeed annoying (perhaps even more so to a foreigner?), and the line-ups are annoying too. But isn't it similar in other countries? Speaking from my own experience, I must say that the office (sub)culture in Poland has changed temendously for the better since communism.

The title of your post may be an honest expression of your perceptions, but it's contrary to facts and very insulting to me as a Pole.
Puzzler   
29 Nov 2007
Life / Poles are not racist [873]

Everyone KNOWS very well that Brits are the Most RACIST people in EUROPE

- From my own direct experience, they are among the most tolerant peoples in Europe.

I think the anti-immigration movement in UK

I've met many Poles in Poland and the UK who are racist,

- What a nice difference in terminology - when it comes to UK, you call it 'the anti-immigration movement,;' when it comes to Poland, you call it 'many Poles ...who are racist.'

:)
Puzzler   
22 Nov 2007
Language / Polish slang phrases - most popular. [606]

There's an exact English equivalent of 'na zdrowie' - 'to your health' (zdrowie = health)

A shortened petty form of the cheer is often: 'zdrowko' or 'zdrowenko' (literally: 'healthie').

There's an almost exact English equivalent of 'do dna' - 'bottoms up' (dno = bottom).

Polish slang is often colourful indeed. Take, e.g., the vulgar phrase 'ch... na kaczych lapach'...
:)
Puzzler   
9 Nov 2007
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]

Maybe, but in geographical terms, there is a difference between East and West, North and South...

- Well, so if a large chunk of Russia should be considered European, then in 'geographical terms,' Poland should lie in Western Europe, shouldn't she? I wonder where in Europe, in 'geographical terms,' you would locate e.g. Norway?

I consider Greece as a Southern country

- I wonder why? You seem to think that Eastern European countries are those where the Cyrillic alphabet is being commonly used, don't you?

It seems that, after all, the term 'Eastern Europe' is a racial term.

It is interesting that it's the United Nations that keeps this term alive....
Puzzler   
7 Nov 2007
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]

Eastern countries write more with the Cyrillic alphabet

- Does it follow Greece is 'Eastern'...?
:)
To my understanding, the East-West division in Europe is also racial one. Check out how they use these terms in German countries - Germany, Austria. And, of course, the media racists and psychopaths, also in UK, keep the division and stereotyping alive.
Puzzler   
20 Oct 2007
Classifieds / Asian community in Poland [113]

Australia is a **** hole man! created by a bunch of immigrant british criminals who raped and murdered the native population

- Any proof of that? Isn't 'Afghan' a Britophobic hate-monger?

poor grammar and/or syntax, please rephrase

- Really? Prove it's the case. I can see the commie chutzpah (bezczelnosc) is still alive with some.
:)
Puzzler   
5 Oct 2007
Classifieds / Asian community in Poland [113]

"whitey"

- Why would you insist your use of the slur was 'playfully sarcastic'?

Randomapl has been known to lie

- So you admit you're a liar?

but not compulsively

- Another lie?
:)

Randompal is not a communist neither are his parents. never have been.

- Yeah, any one of your ilk says that. Lying again?
:)
PS. When you gonna divulge to me what 'The Truth' (sic) is? You bragged you know it, didn't you?
Puzzler   
4 Oct 2007
Classifieds / Asian community in Poland [113]

Sounds like someone doesn't understand playful sarcasm

- Hmm, where would that alleged 'playful sarcasm' be? Point it, using pertinent quotes.

I'm not speaking for myself, I'm speaking for the basic principles of economic geography

- And what would that mean? What do you specifically mean you're speaking for 'the basic principles of economic geography'? Elucidate. :)

a snot-nosed punk

- So when randompal's stupidity has got exposed by me, the type tries to convince he didn't mean what he scribbled, that it was just 'sarcasm,' and, of course, he takes on the arrogant Gombrowiczian face and starts being insulting.

What a con artist. And I have thought this type of commie liar and braggart has become extinct in Poland. Got the mentality from his commie parents?

one with a college degree

- Alas, even if it's true you possess a college degree, it doesn't change the fact that you're an arrogant fool and compulsive liar and shall always remain one.

:)
Puzzler   
3 Oct 2007
Classifieds / Asian community in Poland [113]

Haha ! Okay we're both extremely aggressive ;)

- You're a good kid. Dobranoc, sleep tight.
:)
Puzzler   
3 Oct 2007
Classifieds / Asian community in Poland [113]

And i don't think there are "inferior Europeans", don't be agressive ;)

- I'm not sure about that.

Why are you accusing me of being aggressive? Aren't you aggressive in doing so?

Everyone should have the same rights

- I wholeheartedly agree with that.

Weren't the Blacks in the UK before the Poles...

- What does it have to do with what we're talking about? Do you suggest I've got anything against Blacks living for many generations anywhere? Why would you think so?

Good night Puzzler ;)

- Good night to you too.
:)
Puzzler   
3 Oct 2007
Classifieds / Asian community in Poland [113]

We can't compare White slavery and Black slavery

- Why not? The fact you haven't heard about White slavery doesn't mean it didn't exist.

I'm talking about Africans, Asians and South Americans that die everyday (no food, no water, diseases, conflicts, etc.) If you were them, wouldn't you dream of the cool and peace lands of Europe ?

- I sure would. But if I were allowed into those 'cool and peace lands,' I wouldn't be arrogant and try to grab more rights and privileges than the hosts.

But this is beside the point.

The economical reality in Europe is as it is. Do you think it right and fair to let in Third World crowds instead of fellow Europeans?

Europe is a dream for some

- It surely is for you, son. You're living in a dream world. Watch out - reality surely will check painfully on you. Unless, of course, you die before that.
Puzzler   
3 Oct 2007
Classifieds / Asian community in Poland [113]

Ok, Puzzler, so let's those poor people die away, they are not European... O_O

- Why 'die away,' mate? If a guy from outside of EU doesn't immigrate to EU, he'll necessarily die away?

And do you prefer to 'die away' yourself ...?

Europe is a dream for some, some die while trying to make the dream real

- You mean it's Poles and other 'inferior' Europeans who should die to make the dream come true?

and what about slavery, torture, bad treatments, wars, deads, etc.

- There was also White slavery. (While living in America, I read one 'African American' female 'scholar' bragging that in the past it was Africans who enslaved 'East Europeans.' I don't know if she didn't lie, though. :)) And many tribes e.g. in both Americas warred with each other, tortured each other in ways Europeans didn't even dream of, etc.

So...?
Puzzler   
3 Oct 2007
Classifieds / Asian community in Poland [113]

By the way, Polson, Europeans 'colonizing' lands outside Europe brought in lots of goodies to those lands. I dare think without Europeans those goodies wouldn't have been there today. And the 'colonized' 'victims' utilise those goodies with great zeal. If the Euro colonization has allegedly been so bad, if the aforementioned goodies are allegedly so bad, then shouldn't the goodies be taken away by Europeans? If not, well, haven't the goodies long paid abundantly for any possible wrongdoings and abuses?

:)
Puzzler   
3 Oct 2007
Classifieds / Asian community in Poland [113]

- In other words, colonization for colonization? Are you in favour of historical vendettas? If yes, then do you agree that in the future Europeans will have the right to get even with their today colonisers?

Plus, Europe needs these immigrants workers.

- Really? You mean 'Europe' needs South American, African, and Asian 'immigrant workers'? But why, why? Can't 'Europe' have workers from Poland and other former commie bloc countries? Not immigrants, just temporary guest workers, such as most Poles in UK and elsewhere. Why e.g. France hasn't opened its job market for Poles and other new EU members, but it's been long open for crowds from the Third World? Why Polish guest workers are in many cases treated like slaves in the UK? Why so much hatred against them? You know, Polson, if you and other French want the Third World crowds to inundate France, then it's your business. I don't want to live in such 'Europe.' I know that masses of Poles (in Poland) share my sentiment.
Puzzler   
3 Oct 2007
Classifieds / Asian community in Poland [113]

Randompal thinks this is the dumbest statement ever made. And it came out of the foaming mouth of Whitey.

- Hmm, 'Whitey' is a very racist derogatory term, isn't it? E.g. it's often used - with total impunity - by Black racists and fascists. But this time it seems to be coming from the foaming hatefully yap of a White. Is there anything dumber and morally more abhorrent than one's slamming one's own people and thus undermining one's own existence? Are you suicidal, pal? If so, why don't you do it on your own and gracefully - without all those hateful utterances?

As Poland's economy improves, it will continue to draw immigrants from poorer countries.

- You seem to speak on behalf of all the Poles, which is both false and dumb. Speak for yourself, and invite all those 'immigrants' to your own house and property (if you've got any) and give it away to them, if you want to. What right a hater of Poles like you have to speak on behalf of them?

That's a fact, and you can't do anything about it.

- Why can't we (this doesn't include you) do anything about it? - It's enough not to let them in. And we'll have any right to do that - look how we've been recently treated in UK by more and more natives and also Third World immigrants living there. They all seem to tell us: 'Get the hell out of UK!' How many of us have been killed abroad for merely toiling on crappy jobs for crappy pay? And we can't work - work, I say, not to speak settle - in most of the EU countries, even though we're seemingly EU member, whereas crowds from the Third World can.

But perhaps you're too dumb to get what I'm talking about?

Absolutely true ;)

- What is so 'absolutely true'?

So if you condemn 'Whitey' for 'colonizng' all those poor victims from South America, Africa and Asia, you must surely condemn South Americans, Africans and Asians for their attempts today at 'colonizing' Europe? If you don't condemn them, aren't you racist, pal?