History / Poland and Muslims (Tatars and others). [81]


and I am the queen of sheba.

watch the video then comment.

Obama the Muslim
youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY

History / Poland and Muslims (Tatars and others). [81]


are you saying that the president of the usa talks trash?

you must be because pretty much the entire video is him talking.

he makes some good points you know, you shouldn't be so hasty to deride him.

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I would believe he was a Christian if he had a better handle on the scripture he misuses here and there in the soundbites on the net.

either way I wouldn't expect an auto-biographical work to be anything but flattering.

I read somewhere in the past that his mother worked for Tim Geithner's father, that she was very into marx, communism and the whole bit.

Which actually does explain many of his own views on those items.

anyway I just threw the video at ya as an item of interest.

I actually have no comment on it. There it is straight from the horses mouth. the left side of the horse's mouth today anyway.

we can do a breakdown on what comes out from the right side tomorrow!

News / Crucifixes to stay in Polish schools [364]


no, I get the point quite well.

Read the Humanist Manifesto, there are 2 parts, 1 and 2. I am sure it's still online. This is what human secularism is based on.

used to be at infidels.org, may still be there I am not sure. Originally, they even had a church.

They decided it wasn't wise to openly call themselves a religion though. They do not believe in God.

History / WWII Polish Exiles in Uganda [36]


I have no idea where you get this stuff from. I have said from the outset that I am a Polish American. Maybe where you live people are desperate to fit in quickly and forget the past.. but in America, everyone is from somewhere else unless they are a 100% native american. Some people's ancestors have been here 400 years, some are just arriving today. There isn't a great big effort to erase anyone's genealogy like you seem so set upon doing.

In America.. we can discuss.. hispanics.. blacks.. africans.. latinos.. east europeans.. asians.. europeans.. and we can take each of those groups and break them down further into.. british. scottish.. Mexican.. Nigerian.. Polish etc.

Perhaps your desire to see your self as British rubs off on your view of anyone who sees themself as Polish-American or German-american or Mexican-American... I would guess, it has more do with you receiving some sort of government benefit from the UK than anything else. Or, there is something in your past that you are trying to forget.

But that doesn't mean everyone has to forget just because you feel that way. There are Polish communities all over the east coast and midwest. We call them Polish for a reason, which you simply do not comprehend.

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Actually it means only that you are a citizen of the UK. Citizenship has nothing to do with genetics. I can assure you, as much as you try to deny it.. to a true Brit descended from Normans you are, and will always be, a pollack.

If one of your children ever encounters an odd genetically inherited disease you will learn quite quickly how Polish you are, or scottish or whatever the case may be, as the doctor himself will have to teach you something you obviously resist.

I really am done arguing this point with you sjam. I am happy to hear you have acquired true Norman genes via your environment. If you can bottle this gene changing formula you stand to make a fortune, especially in places like Uganda.

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A lot of people would disagree with you. Invisible to us generally perhaps, but lack of proof, far from the truth.

Perhaps it would be more proper to state, God has not revealed himself to you. Because millions of others do say, He has revealed Himself to them.

maybe it's just something you need to work on.

History / Life in communism vs democracy in Poland [234]


The difference though.. is that under the examples we have to work with.. with communism the media is heavily controlled by the state.. whereas (ideally, without restrictions) with democracy the media is controlled by private corporations. At least in democracy we are free to use or provide alternative media for an alternative point of view to the corporations.

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Sorry, I can't, He has already revealed Himself to me.. many times.

Once you know the truth there isn't any turning back.

Millions have seen aliens have they? Maybe a few thousand make that claim, but millions? I'd like to see you prove that. Kim Jong.. is the result of people who deny God and worship men in his stead, exactly the same path you are on.... And what issue do you have with muslims who revere Mohammad as their prophet? He is their prophet, there is no doubt about it. You know muslims.. deserve some respect.. they are often a truly, sincerely, deeply faithful people. Funny thing is.. when they meet God finally.. (since so many of them do actually search).. they start preaching Jesus.

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oh please. do some research on things of a spiritual nature. Oh I forgot, you don't believe in those things.

sleep paralysis

Sleep paralysis is a condition that occurs in the state just before"The Nightmare" by Johann Heinrich Fussli, 1781 dropping off to sleep (the hypnagogic state) or just before fully awakening from sleep (the hypnopompic state). The condition is characterized by being unable to move or speak. It is often associated with a feeling that there is some sort of presence, a feeling which often arouses fear..

gotcha a demon do ya?

Jesus can cure that too.

Most people are quite fearful of facing what is inside them.. the demons.. the monsters.. you should give it a try though.

I haven't any issues with people of any religion. Religion, per se, can be a issue. However, when people seek God, sincerely in truth, that is a different matter altogether. Learn to differentiate between the cradle follower of religion and the sincere seeker of God. Big difference. You'll find seekers of God in any religion.. even satanists, wiccans, new agers.. often just end up there for a short while because they are lost and seeking, albeit in all the wrong places. you can find plenty of testimonies on the web, at youtube, wherever. Funny thing is.. those sincere seekers of God.. they all end up preaching Jesus.


and the jews too. shall we discuss mormons? humanists?

but that's religion for you. Islam seems to going through a phase quite similar to what the Catholic church went through in the middle ages. It is 500-600 years younger than christianity so that's still right on time historically. I hope they have their reformation soon.

I heard a show put out out by al jazeera radio, I think it was at youtube.. I may have a link I could look around.. but some Imam was complaining that 6 million or so muslims convert to christianity each year. give it some time, God is working on this. The muslims, the jews, they can write all the laws against christian proselytizing they want.. it will not stop God from his work.

I do respect the muslims for taking certain strong stands here and there against humanist atheistic movements especially, as poorly educated as some muslims are, simply due to poverty.. you know they have a lot of problems some of these are the poorest of the poor.. but on the other hand some of them are very well educated and they hold their ground on a lot of issues christians cave into. Yeah, i do respect them for that, absolutely.

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This is a really big problem.. truthfully.. Look at Islam, I cannot honestly say there is anything within it that compares to some of the grosser teachings of kabbalistic/talmudic Judaism.

Kabbalistic/talmudic Judaism is actually the thing that Jesus preached against.

If Islam, as an institutionalized religion, protects the neighbors of the jews from the deceptive practices of judaism, who am I to say they should halt doing exactly what they are doing? They know more about these things than christians do, they have dealt one on one with these issues for a few millenia.. and if you need an education in it, the teachings of muslims who fight against kabbalistic/talmudic Judaism are actually one of the best places to start.

You can call those teachings anti-semetic if you like,, but bear in mind, a large majority of muslims are semites so that opinion is.. useless, and even extremely racist. A jew is not a semite to the exclusion of his non-jewish semite neighbors. That idea only works in the mind of a jew.

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Pretty much yeah. A hateful semite just like other hateful semites.

Hate seems to be a long standing tradition among semites, on both ends of the spectrum. Which is why saying one group is better than the other is pure nonsense. Jewish supremacists, muslim supremacists, not much difference between them really. Both groups have been working to destroy Christian values and culture for quite some time.


I did read the post.. I was jerking your demon infested knee.

History / Poland and Muslims (Tatars and others). [81]

Those kebob stores don't sound very kosher. Definitely not run by real muslims. Sounds like someone's unwanted list has migrated to Norway.

Raping Norwegian women? Well, it sure beats sending them off to the brothels of Israel I guess.

Sounds like the norwegians need a dialogue with their new muslim community. And an education system to work with them. There are lots of muslims in the USA and we have not seen any of these problems.

History / Poland and Muslims (Tatars and others). [81]


I'd probably be safer eating one of those nasty kebobs, minus the ones with human flesh, than I would be getting a flu shot.

at least I would know what made me sick and could sue the kebob shop owner.

xcuse me, Dariusz, but what makes you think those Somali gangs are acting upon muslim influences?

There really are no more issues here with muslims than any other group. It would be real nice if they were absolutely perfect above and beyond the rest of us. But they're not. Saying there is a problem among the muslim community in the USA is nonsense.

If my cat ever goes missing it would probably be because a bear ate it.. or a wiccan needed a sacrifice. That is closer to home for me, dariusz.

News / Crucifixes to stay in Polish schools [364]


The JDL and other Jewish organizations in the USA are some of the most outspoken concerning removing religion from schools, not allowing kids to pray at school, have bible studies etc. They have been working extremely hard to define 'hate laws' for any speech that criticizes Israel. Yet they are not shy about criticizing other religions, Islam especially.

I think if you investigate you'll also find they are very much behind removing most of the other religious symbols that have been around in the USA for hundreds of years.

Quite a few congressmen do speak out against this, and they often mention the jewish organizations and lobbies as being behind it.

I was raised catholic too.. all pollacks are catholic aren't they?

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Check out this guy and what he has to say, he has quite a history on these matters.

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American support has been gained through a lot of fraud and deceit.

They don't have to live with that.

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no not really, it's the old guard enabled that, had they known they surely would not have allowed it. a new generation is taking over in congress etc.. more informed.


no uh uh.

non-denominational.

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fraud and deceit flourish when opportunity exists Seanus, you are not so naive to not realize that.. most of the horrors in the world.. history.. are crimes of opportunity. Today.. the past 10-15 years really only.. we have digital media that has really opened the floodgates of information.. instant video.. this is a historical thing really. It is no longer possible for deceit to be as rampant.. people everywhere have cameras.. cellphones..

catholic.. well nothing put me off really.. I got saved after not going to church for 15 years, just looking for God, you know.

I couldn't return to the catholic church because they teach that other churches (baptist, whatever) are cults and by then I had so many friends in other churches.. what was the use of buying into that idea. I did try though.. but left after being told that again.. that baptist and other churches are cults. eh. I am not into we are the first and only church thing.

I respect the catholic church. But like any large organization it allows.. for opportunities of corruption.. that smaller churches don't have to deal with as much, that's all. The catholic church has it's pros and cons. Keep in mind it was established a very long time ago, it fulfilled a purpose back then... organized armies, fought the muslims.. etc.

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Which is exactly why people like the JDL are working so hard to define hate laws. there is too much information for them to sweep away anymore so they have to try to legislate it.

but they won't succeed. people talk you know. they always will.


There is no critical difference Seanus. I have met many many very faithful in every church I have ever visited (at least 10-12 different denominations over the years).. and their faith is quite real everywhere... with the exception of 'modern' churches that are today allowing things like homosexuality and other things to creep in. Those can be very cold churches, you feel it just sitting there. rather odd. empty. simply cold.

Everyone is in a different place in their walk Seanus, but the goal, for the individual, setting politics of church heirarchy aside, is the same.

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But you are talking politics, and I am talking faith.

Politics and faith don't really mix. Expect problems.

It's been a REALLY long time since I looked into the catholic/protestant irish thing. Sin fein, the irish defense groups, all of that. But if I remember correctly.. the protestants pretty much came from England, the native irish populations were heavily discriminated against.. under British rule to force ireland into the empire .. were kept from jobs etc.. ended up up in dire poverty because they were irish and catholic.. .. we could go to the famines that never really were etc.. This is all so much more about politics and British subjection of the Irish than faith.

I don't know.. faith wise.. from my perspective I don't see all that much difference between the church of england that calls itself protestant and the catholic church under the pope in Ireland. They seem very similar, catechisms, sacraments, etc.. I am sure though I don't know all the details of the anglican church either.. that one I have never visited, just read about here and there. But historically, England has gone back and forth on the issue of catholic/protestant during the past 400-500 years, depending who sat on the throne. Bloody Mary and that aftermath is even the reason a lot of the protestant pilgrims originally came to America.


I can understand that would be a big concern. Considering history, you never know when someone is going to come along and start using religion to assert their political views and agendas.

I have always kind of felt (as an adult, as a child I didn't comprehend the issue) that my Polish family's reverence of the pope is more than just a little bit misguided. I'm pretty sure, but not absolutely certain, that if I had stuck with that mindset I would have never gotten saved.

I've had one issue since I was kid that has made me question things along these lines.. when I was 7 or so.. my mom bought me a children's bible.. this big thick thing.. she didn't want to buy it for me.. I insisted.. it was illustrated real pretty.. catholics don't always read the bible keep that in mind.. (my sister bought my grandmother, at age 75 or so, her first bible, as an example) they learn catechism.. anyway.. shortly after I read that, and I did love it.. it was only NT, not much OT in there.. I had a couple really weird experiences.. I saw this ghost in my bedroom at night, twice, wearing a monks robe, a dark brown.. and when the thing looked at me, under the hood there was no face, just a very black space.. which struck as me as very evil. So I grew up sort of thinking, there must be lots of priests and popes in hell. And you couldn't shake that from me because of that ghost.. But at the same time, I looked for God because I needed answers. Kind of haunted me all my young life, that experience. Today though, I realize, in any church, there are good leaders and bad leaders.

God is real MareGaea, He isn't a figment of anyone's imagination, but many people like to imagine that as truth.. it's a lie though.

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Well of course, Seanus, acutely aware.

But those tenets are only truly applicable to people who do not really seek God. they go to church on sunday, they sit in the pews, they absorbs stuff like sponges, they never think for themselves.

You are going to find that everywhere, in every religion, in every church, even among athiests.

in essence what I am trying to say, is that a person, no matter their church or even religious background, when they seek God,, they find him, and none of that matters anymore. But.. these people still go to church.. so you cannot look a at church of any denomination and say.. oh, these people are fools. it just doesn't work that way.

faith is very individual matter.. grouping all people of a denomination into a category of left, right, wrong, right.. doesn't work.

Go, Seanus, visit the churches like I have.. sit with the people get to know them, who they are.. you will see what i have seen.. good people, bad people, everywhere.. all mixed together. basically you have to let faith into the picture here and understand that God will work this out for those who truly seek Him.

Give the Catholic church credit they are due Seanus.. the strength (and numbers) of that organization, for better or worse depending on the year.. has nonetheless held communities together and maintained the faith during times of hardship like they have seen in Poland, Russia etc. Even Cuba, strong catholic faith there. There is something about this organization that works really well here and there throughout history.

Not certain i can put my finger on it perfectly exactly at the moment yet though. Send me some ideas! I just know what I see, it's undeniable.

You know, for all the bad things we could say about the church.. also, much of europe's (and America's freedom) is due to the catholic church.. protestantism came later and elaborated that in matters of faith, and freedom to worship. Especially for women.. who were treated as chattle during the time of Christ.. by jews.. by muslims still today.. at the time of Christ.. the jews were actually even debating as to whether or not women even had souls. Christianity is descended from judaism, minus the teachings of the Talmud. If it were not for the Catholic church.. and the insistence on certain values.. women everywhere might be wearing burkas today. which obviously would affect every other sector of society.

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No, He's not, not at all, quite the opposite. God is love, really.. you know, and this the big thing.. when people get saved especially at the first moment when God, through Jesus btw, reveals himself.. His spirit, this massive thing that literally shakes the house.. he is Love. and Life.. Peace .. using CAPS for a reason..awesome amazing. no human words to describe it.. not in our vocabulary.. not human.. but an experience many humans have had, with God.. Jesus.

The bloodshed, that is a human thing. when man tries to play God, lots of trouble.

I'm real sure God was there for lots of people, moving them out of the way of trouble. He has done it for me a few times in my life as well. That, is a relationship with Him you need to establish.. takes time, perseverance, and the word you hate most, faith. Faith.. to trust Him even when things don't seem to make sense to us.

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well, likewise, I give it a go.. don't expect perfection on this because I cannot aptly describe the experience of being in his presence.. etc that stuff.

There are for sure, indications in the OT of a son, some son, in Isaiah we see this most notably.. you can go straight to genesis even.. and say.. if you believe that God created man, how much of a leap is it to say, He would send his son, or even have a son, or a few or more.. not of this earth.. in the OT in Job for instance.. we hear tales of the 'sons of God' and angels.. some have fallen, a third of them leaving.. 2 thirds are still with God.. we even hear of the daughters of God briefly.. so right off if you question that God has A son (not to mention many sons of God).. you are arguing with scripture..that's your choice.. I choose not to go there at this stage of my career.. We hear of angels being sent to Abraham to warn of the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.. even they walked the earth as men.. I'll let you take that from there as that should be obvious enough and head in the right direction for more clues as to 'son' or 'sons' from on high.

Is Jesus God himself// some say yes.. I question that.. only sort of.. he is God.. in that the spirit of God is very strong with him.. a consuming fire if you will..major powerful.. not human.. really powerful spirit.. getting saved and being in his presence leaves no doubt of that.. an awakening moment.. pretty cool.. as Christians we are not really ever taught that Jesus IS God, the father himself.. though some do preach that, it's not really biblical, or strict doctrine.. we are taught however that Jesus is our mediator with God. And there is absolutely no doubt about that in my mind.

your own people say God stopped talking to man a long time ago.. some christians say it too.. i would agree.. but now he sends Jesus.. Yashua Hamashiach.. and He did not stop listening to our prayers.. even the blood crying out etc.. he has not stopped intervening.. but instead of meeting man like He met met Moses, now Jesus is the one He sends. And there appears to be an awful lot of authority vested in this guy Jesus.. because honestly, his presence sends you straight to your knees.

and you will never doubt again. takes about 5 seconds for that amazing insight, all the questions about God you ever had, to be answered.. to take place. It's just a shortened thing when we say Jesus is God.. what's usually meant is.. the authority of God.. Including an awesome amount of his power, glory and grace. He may have been born and walked this earth.,. but the invisible guy that saved me.. is not human.

Felt his hands on me a few times too through the process.. like a person standing right next to me.. I was one of those people who said.. i am a good person.. what sin.. how much sin do i have ( i could name a few things that's all).. you know what he did to me in my obstinance? He put his hand on my head. It felt it just like a human hand on my head.. I am sitting there saying to myself.. this is not real.. not happening.. I swear.. his hand on my head and my entire life flashes before my eyes in a few minutes time.. he shows me lots of sin..

I repented indeed. He is God. Or of God.. or very close, whichever you prefer I really don't think the details of that truly matter one little bit, as God sends him to us to do His will.

I have read here and there in Christian doctrine that Jesus is our judge, he comes to judge. I think there may be some of that in Isaiah as well. And it very much describes my experience. better to be judged, and forgiven by Jesus I am real sure, than to face the judgement seat of God as simply a righteous man. In his presence.. my life.. felt like nothing.. he is much more alive than we are.. his spirit exudes life. fills the room.. He imparts certain things of that to us also. if anything ails you.. you get healed in his presence. amazing. you're never the same after that.

Yes, he is God. Maybe not directly the father.. but so close..

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]


You failed to mention that a lot of catholics hate baptists too.

fair is fair.

need I mention kick a jew day:

naplesnews.com/news/2009/nov/23/north-naples-middle-suspended-kick-a-jew-day-email/

small planet or something else is happening here? Naples Florida has one of the highest per capita incomes of anywhere in the USA. just a tidbit of stats for what it's worth..


same here...

History / Poland and Muslims (Tatars and others). [81]

mephias
Education.

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It would appear that way.. I have no argument with your opinion.

Except that I am a Christian extremist.. umm.. not really, not even close. But your own views are rather extreme I do have to say.

Try using a mirror and call the spade a spade.

I have a great respect for Torah following jews.. have no doubt. You.. are obviously not one of them.

your people are actually... these people.. born of the same the same muslim dirt you mock in every way shape and form. Even real jews call your kind interlopers and usurpers.

timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article3499122.ece

and this thing your people are trying to enable.. the destruction of Christian europe.. is going to turn around and bite you so hard in the ass you won't recall your mother's name. Much less your zionism. and the rest of the world will be quite happy to forget it too.

Christianity will not die.. we know our God. You.. are completely lost.

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

I have to agree. people are like this every where you go, it seems to simply be human nature to identify with your own 'group'.

I grew up in a place where pretty much every day was kick a pollack day. And that was with a large polish community nearby to kick,. And I will never forget, it was so funny.. I was probably 11 or 12 years old.. my parents take us on our regular summer vacation tour America thing.. we did that every summer when i was a kid.. one or two weeks.. my parents would drive us to visit some new place we had never been.. so this time we head toward Norfolk Virginia where I had an older cousin working for NASA.. and we are in this little store, Hampton maybe, I forget exactly.. my 2 sisters, my mom and myself.. and we are talking.. and I hear this little girl in the next aisle saying to her mother that we talk funny (no southern twang) and before you know it, this little girl, she must have been all of 8 years old about 3 feet tall.. comes straight up to me and kicks me. really hard, in the shin. She says at the same time 'Stupid yankee!"

OMG it was so funny.

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Well, someone is doing it. I know for a fact the Jewish groups in the USA do push harder than anyone to secularize the schools. And they team up with the homosexuals a lot of the time to get this stuff out there. Fringe groups really, with noisy voices and lots of money, that's all.


no, actually I don't. but the leadership options we have had the past few elections.. more.. are hardly anything to praise either.

Seriously, and I'm sure you agree, there are good people and bad people in any 'group'. Unfortunately the whole world at this point seems to be running under some sort of very corrupt something or other and what we end up seeing a lot of is the worst of human behavior all over the place as a result.

My views really are quite moderate.. maybe now and then i post some of the more extreme views, but only because that is what people are saying.. I don't necessarily always agree with 100% of everything. rarely. But since those views are more commonplace than ever I do pay attention.. You really need to take a listen to the stuff that is on tv in the USA these days. Pretty extreme a lot of it, all sides, secular, jewish, christian, muslim.. all sides. people arguing. We actually cut off the cable television several months ago because it was so obnoxious and then the 'entertainment' shows even worse with all the vulgar stereotypes blatent sex and cursing etc. So obnoxious. you have the tv on.. and your kids are sitting there.. and even the commercials.. viagra viagra.. . yeah, Christians hate this stuff, and saying so is not extreme.

and it is really weird that jewish women are trying to make wearing burka-like clothing the newest great thing. I hate to have to point that out to you. What's next? Women are chattle? Some of the extreme jewish traditions.. and the extrem muslim traditions.. yes, obviously,

just LOOK.. they are the same exact thing from different sides of the street!

Jews have committed genocide on other people btw.. have you not read the Tanakh? Of course the history of Bolshevism/Soviet Russia is also hotly debated.

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Just because some Christians you criticize all Christians? Or Poles? Or Palestinians?