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ShortHairThug   
2 Nov 2010
Life / My experience in Poland 15 years ago as an American trying to live and work there. [167]

I regret that some will be offended, such as yourself, apparently, by a hard look in the 'historic mirror' of reality that was Poland during my time there.

Assuming I’ll take it at face value, which I very much doubt, I would have to say it’s rather a sad and tragic autobiography of a broken individual, you seem to be very disappointed at the reality life has dealt you. Someone who blames the world around him for the bitter taste of defeat and unfulfilled dreams. You never stated the reason for moving to Poland especially at that time, the time of turmoil, the time of harsh changes in the economy that had to be made at the time of transition from one system to the other and all the misery that those changes bring about. Any sane person would’ve taken his time before making that move (after all what’s so urgent?) and he would have carefully considered the reality. So one can safely assume that the motive was greed, the arrogance and inexperience of youth, after all that was the reasoning behind it, wasn’t it? What do those former commies know about business anyway? You definitely had advantage, a leg up so to speak or at least you thought so. You, hailing from a rich country where capitalist system has a long tradition and is prospering at the moment, coming to a country in transition, a country in the midst of economic chaos where locals are disillusioned, struggling to make ends meet therefor not even worthy to look at as a threat or even potential competition, you'll outfox them all. To a sly individual like yourself it was all so obvious at that time and so easy, you’ll strike it rich and with strong exchange rate to a dollar on your side you just can’t fail but failed you did, miserably. The more time that has passed without any success materializing the more disillusioned with life in general you’ve become. It’s a rather a sad story of an individual with feeble mind that harbors bitter feelings for the place where he has experienced his first and only defeat in life, a defeat so great that he will never be able to fully recover from or heal and he still can’t get over it. So you project your own failure on your surroundings instead of being honest with yourself as to who and what you are, you are just a Yankee failure who given the optimal environment in Poland as it was back than could not hack it, truly sad but not at all very original.
ShortHairThug   
22 Oct 2010
History / Poles in the Crusades to the Holy Land [75]

By that standing we can say Britts were Nazi's as they had some individuals being in a Nazi party...
Come on!

Oh, Come On! It’s not my fault you guys skewed the discussion in some other direction, are you forgetting what the OP of this thread asked for? I was simply responding to the original question not butting in on your debate, history is history and if he wants to learn more about the few that did end up in the Holy Land, more power to him.

Besides I don’t subscribe to the theory that crusades were motivated by some religion doctrine and it’s all about some moral or ethical question but rather it’s about a pursuit of fame and fortune medieval style by individual knights and their Lords. For the western knights the major motivation to participate was to gain favor with his senior Lord and perhaps even bring back enough treasure to get an estate of his own or one would be given to him by his Lord for his bravery. Polish knights did not need to look to Palestine for that, there was plenty of room to the east and north both for glory as well as land. So even if there was no internal squabble among the Poles themselves at the time, Polish rulers would still have a hard time to recruit a large enough army to go to Palestine for a simple reason, it was in no one’s interest do go there neither a lesser knight nor his Lord, the pay off was none existent.
ShortHairThug   
22 Oct 2010
History / Poles in the Crusades to the Holy Land [75]

Poles didn't do Crusades and they didn't colonize either!

Poles as a nation did not participate in the crusades, at the time they were more preoccupied with internal wars and struggles for control of Piast Dynasty (family feud more important then some distant land) but there were some individual knights and princes of Piast Dynasty that indeed did participate. Bolesław I Wysoki the eldest son of Władysław II Wygnaniec who in turn was the son of Bolesław III Krzywousty, both father Władysław II Wygnaniec and son Bolesław I Wysoki while in exile at the court of Conrad III of Germany went to Palestine with the second crusade. Similarly Władysław Odonic Duke of Greater Poland while in exile in Hungary participated in the expedition of King Andrew II of Hungary to Palestine.

Prince Henryk Sandomierski and his brothers Bolesław and Mieczysław and some other knights also went to Palestine in 1154 to defend Jerusalem. As for Leszek Biały he only promised to participate but he never did. It’s also said that another Polish crusading knight was Jaksa z Miechowa or Jaxa Gryfita whichever you prefer plus some other knights that went to Palestine in 1162.

There is a book on this subject by Gładysz "Polska wobec ruchu krucjatowego w XII- XIII w."
ShortHairThug   
19 Oct 2010
Genealogy / Polish DNA? Poles have the most genes in a group includes Balts, Macedonians and Greeks. [264]

The Russian occupation time in Poland is over. Poland is a free and a much better country now. No need to stick to the old communist history and geography. You guys are free now and it's time to open up to the unknown before the 1989 historical facts.
I like Polish people, the only problem I have with you guys here and there is when we're talking about history because you still seem not to let go the old "truth".

The stupidity of your average Yank shines right through. So what is the "truth" or the "facts" that you speak of? What do you know about Ptolemy or his writings anyway o wise one? To the rest of us uneducated former commies as well as very well educated western morons, unlike yourself, (mere mortals if you will) historically speaking we know virtually nothing about the man himself, all we know is that he lived in the 2nd century A.D and worked in Alexandria. His works were translated into Latin in the 15th century, some 1300 years later and that’s the document that’s being disused here. Columbus himself read freshly translated Ptolemy’s "Geography", based his theories and plotted a course in accordance to what he just read in that book; look at the confusion that it caused when he reached the new world, that what he thought was Asia. All due to Ptolemy’s exaggerated size of Asia as presented in his work, you know the one we discuss here.

Why do you suppose Scotland is skews as much as 90 degrees to the east in his work? His fairly accurate description of the known world is based on the extent of the Roman army’s reach where the accurate measurements and the distances would have been known to the Romans therefore to Ptolemy himself, everything else past Hadrian's Wall as well as other parts of Europe where Rome had no influence was Tara Incognita to Ptolemy (here be dragons). What lied beyond that point was based on educated guess, speculation, hearsay from numerous unsubstantiated sources, that’s what he had to work with, so he did his best under the circumstances. Placement of the tribes as well as associating them with those of the Germanic or Slavic extraction is pure guesswork. Archeological evidence on the lands in question discovered so far and dating back to the time frame in question does not support this theory either. So much for the truth! The rest is simply someone else’s interpretation of his writings; wishful thinking, a whole lot of fantasy all neatly wrapped up for easy consumption by the masses and perhaps even semi coherent to the likes of you but you still have no problem excepting it as a gospel truth simply because you’re too lazy to read up on the subject matter and draw your own conclusions.
ShortHairThug   
18 Oct 2010
Genealogy / Polish DNA? Poles have the most genes in a group includes Balts, Macedonians and Greeks. [264]

Just look right and above on the map where the border is...it's clearly mapped as the Vistula!

Once again Where's Oder River then? Did they miss it somehow?
You ever seen an island in the Baltic Sea above Vistula River? Perhaps it’s lost island of Atlantis, don’t tell me its Gottland, part of present day Sweden would also be visible if that was the case besides have you noticed how the land slops upward. That’s clearly by Szczecin.
ShortHairThug   
18 Oct 2010
Genealogy / Polish DNA? Poles have the most genes in a group includes Balts, Macedonians and Greeks. [264]

We have proof that Germanics settled first as far as 2000 years back in what is now Poland.

Yet according to the latest DNA distribution study it looks like Slavs were there already. Take a look at Estimated Y-DNA distribution 2000 years ago throughout Europe.

Estimated Y-DNA distribution 2000 years ago

Face it Germans are mutts as this map clearly proves.

Link is broken here's another one. eupedia.com/europe/origins_haplogroups_europe.shtml
ShortHairThug   
4 Oct 2010
News / Polish IQ ahead of France, USA, Canada, Israel, Ireland... [50]

A link to that? Where is Germany???

Probably an American one, the same list where Mozart is said to have an IQ of 153 while actress Sharon Stone is alleged to have an IQ of 154. Go figure. BS if you ask me.
ShortHairThug   
4 Oct 2010
News / Polish IQ ahead of France, USA, Canada, Israel, Ireland... [50]

Why then does Poland lag in terms of scientific breakthroughs, inventions

Does it?? Are you forgetting the fact that Poland was not on the map for a while, you’re just looking for them in the wrong country list. Plenty of Poles listed as Americans, hmmmm???

innovative products

Obviously you never visited Polish construction site, the sh*t they come up with……

cultural trends

For sure you won’t find that in US, the media simply won’t allow it where the word Polish is synonymous with …………, propagating that negative stereotype instead.

fads

Forfiter T-shirt "Gonna give'm a cziken?"

crazes

I think the last example qualifies, don’t you?
Etc. etc.
ShortHairThug   
4 Oct 2010
Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]

Rycabel is extremely rare, only 6 people registered with that name, Kielce and £ódż region, compared to 500 some with the spelling of Rycombel with high concentration in Kielce region and Warsaw.
ShortHairThug   
30 Sep 2010
USA, Canada / Why are Polish Americans mocked in the American media? [226]

Look at your reputation all around the world before we even start talking about it.

You’re joking right? Our reputation? Based on what? Polish jokes I suppose? Most of the world is not as stupid as Americans think it is. While some might not like us they see those jokes for what they are, jokes! No matter how despicable its intention but Americans are universally disliked around the world, a feeling shown and spoken out loud more and more, I wonder why? Don’t you?
ShortHairThug   
29 Sep 2010
USA, Canada / Why are Polish Americans mocked in the American media? [226]

none of the politicians is really serious about it.

Denial.

you guys are constantly cracking on us

You’re getting a taste of your own medicine, besides your reputation precedes you, nothing that was said here about Americans is a lie.
ShortHairThug   
29 Sep 2010
USA, Canada / Why are Polish Americans mocked in the American media? [226]

Still prove it!!!

What’s there to prove when even American politicians are cracking Polish Jokes. Perhaps they’re right; you’re just too stupid to notice. You wouldn’t know an insult if it hit you on the face. Good old army training "Thank you sir, may I have another". Specter ring a bell?

I don't think that this subject is popular anywhere else in the states either.

Very popular on a Capitol Hill from what I hear. What’s more reflective of American main stream and than that? When politicians speak people listen, well usually.
ShortHairThug   
29 Sep 2010
USA, Canada / Why are Polish Americans mocked in the American media? [226]

if that was still happening like it was in those days

IF? What do you mean if? It’s still happening, perhaps to a lesser degree. Here you go. Opie “I’m surprised he knew how to dial a phone” when someone called the radio station to complain about Polish Jokes they aired previous day and all those stupid Americans calling afterward, all suggesting ..........


ShortHairThug   
29 Sep 2010
USA, Canada / Why are Polish Americans mocked in the American media? [226]

None come even close to Polish Joke.

these joke waves CAME and WENT

Are you sure?

That would have probably happened to the Pollack jokes of the 1960s were it not for Gomułka's anti-Semitic purge in 1968.

Another of those Urban Myths. Communist Jew is not a religious Jew; besides what would Americans care for an internal power struggle of the communists themselves. Sure, paint it as anti-Semitic event, make up a few Polish Jokes and call it a day. You just reaffirmed my belief in one particular group responsible for that wave of Polish Jokes with that statement.
ShortHairThug   
29 Sep 2010
USA, Canada / Why are Polish Americans mocked in the American media? [226]

Indeed, most Americans rarely if ever think about Poles

How do you explain the waves of Polish jokes through the years? BS

Polish immigrants in the late 19th and early 20th centuries were the largest single group of Central-East European bread-seekers that came to America, and naturally had to take all the arduous, low-paying jobs

BS Take Central-East out of your statement and the same holds true for all, Irish, Italian etc. hell even Asians Chinese coolies to build your railways ring a bell?

The absence of an independent Poland meant that much of what made its way into the American mainstream about Poland came from German government, scholarly or media sources

Joke of the day. Scholarly my a**, most don’t even know where Poland is, besides wasn’t there one here looking for the map of Poland from 1800’s? Media sources? Can’t argue with that.

Unlike Jewish immigrants of the same period who saved up and sent the brightest of their kids to college

Urban Myth.

in the US the image of Poles churned out by Hollywood was less than favourable

Mostly propagated by one such immigrant group to America, must have been Bolivians.

The pro-Soviet slant of WW2 propaganda reaching the US only helped entrench negative sentiments towards Poles

Blame it on the Soviets, what? Americans are incapable of their own propaganda? American GI’s were fighting alongside Poles on the western front. Surely they had to look to outside sources to have an image of Poles, as they themselves knew nothing about them. BS

Gomułka's 1968 anti-Jewish purge set off America's stand-up comics and other entertainment

Another excuse for those Norwegian Hollywood types.

It’s easy enough to point the finger at external forces

Couldn’t agree with you more.

Although they may be at each others' throats in their closed Polonian circle, they are known for their timidity, passivity and lack of assertiveness

One look at this forum tells you how timid; passive they are when it comes to their heritage.

A successful PolAm dentist may have a grand house in the burbs with swimming pool and three pricey cars, but professionally he is not in a position to propagate the Polish heritage in the American mainstream the way a book author, film director or playwright can.

Organizing and attending Pierogi Fest or any other community based event to share their heritage with their immediate neighbors is not propagating Polish heritage or positive image? Oh wait, Pierogi Fest, there’s a hidden joke there somewhere. BS, another dumb excuse, pathetic.
ShortHairThug   
23 Sep 2010
USA, Canada / Poles and Americans, what do you think, are we friends or enemies? [190]

You Yanks have a long way to go, a lot to learn about sarcasm, you’re just clumsy at it, hopeless really.. At the end of the day your statements come across as primitive, the reasoning; well let’s just say as that of the simpleton. No wonder so many think of you as Idiots. With those comments you’re just reinforcing those stereotypes, not really helping yourself in the long run. Simply put digging your own grave. If you catch my drift.
ShortHairThug   
22 Sep 2010
USA, Canada / Poles and Americans, what do you think, are we friends or enemies? [190]

I may disagree with you guys. Even though we didn't directly help Poland but we shipped lot's of war equipment to the Soviet Union and they "liberated" Poland , so indirectly we did help you.

Do you see the Irony in your statement? Let’s just pray that the day when U.S is liberated by Mexico and run by one of those Central American military juntas never comes. Let’s hope that if that day ever comes we won’t supply them with weapons, that we’re somehow better than that. Honestly do you see it as a good deed on your part?
ShortHairThug   
22 Sep 2010
USA, Canada / Poles and Americans, what do you think, are we friends or enemies? [190]

Yeah.. you would know mf'er. We weren't the ones standing in line for toilet paper on freezing winter afternoons in the 50's - 80's.

If anything you prove my point with that statement that actually was a constant reminder of the paradise that the system was creating for everyone; we lived it, its effects experienced by virtually everyone. Making everyone conscious of the reality in the process, while you lived and still live a sheltered existence. Deprived of this experience you’re blind of the reality that surrounds you, gullible and easily manipulated. You swallow every piece of propaganda fed to you as if it was some kind of a tasty morsel that only you are privileged enough to have. If anything it’s those freezing winters that thought us skepticism, to be weary of the government and those in power ready to do anything necessary in order to stay there, even if it meant betraying their country and fallow man in the process, selling it off bit by bit, a healthy dose of it too. It’s precisely this shock therapy that allowed us to throw off the yoke that bound us for so long. Perhaps you should try it, it will restore your sight and it will finally allow you to see that illusion for what it is. Contrary to your belief, it won’t make you less patriotic but it just might set you free.

You scarcely rebelled against that commie sh.t sandwich at all and you have the balls to call somebody "naive".

When you’re right you’re right. To be naïve one has to assume a person is incapable of his own thought and opinion, he would have to let the others do the thinking for him. Hard to believe that such a thing can even be possible in the U.S, I mean the best education money can buy, top notch universities that go with it, that national myth of individualism you have and at this day and age? No, definitely not; it’s not the naivety that blinds you to the reality that surrounds you.; it’s your stupidity.

you don't see us saying

Sure I do, you and your kind constantly boasting you save Europe, you rebuild Europe, that if it wasn’t for us etc. Funny thing is you actually believe every word of that crap. Like it was you who liberated us from communism. By your own admission you did diddly squat for us yet expect us to be grateful for your imaginary help and act like we owe you something in return. What a f*cking joke.

When reminded of the facts suddenly it’s all lies. How could that be? It’s in direct conflict with what you’ve been thought all your life. That national myth you build for yourself (an illusion if you will) when in fact it’s your actions that created that post war reality in the first place, the hell we had to lived in, and here we are; you throwing a tantrum for those words shatter your illusion of America the just, grow up.
ShortHairThug   
21 Sep 2010
USA, Canada / Poles and Americans, what do you think, are we friends or enemies? [190]

Naive is buying into Communism, which... you did.

I thought this subject was already covered, but since you were playing hooky that day let’s refresh this topic so it has a chance to sinks in. Buying into or was it Sold into? Ah the freedom loving Americans with their grand illusion of themselves. Ignorance is bliss.

instead of "what can I do for me".. it's "what can the state do for me".

These days; American philosophy is more along the lines of corporate welfare "What can the state do for corporations", priority is not quiet the way you describe it or even in that order but hay it's the belief in that illusion that counts. Individual is a distant second to that of the state and big business, a necessary evil and nuisance at times to the ruling class but you (the individual) do come in handy to pay for the mistakes of the rich and powerful.

Naive? We don't have as many illusions as you guys.

True, difference being. Deep down inside we know it, it’s the hope that makes those illusions naive, while you believe every word of it, hence no illusion, no problem.
ShortHairThug   
20 Sep 2010
USA, Canada / Poles and Americans, what do you think, are we friends or enemies? [190]

why are there so many now living here, and many more still working on the move?

I know many that have returned, seems to be a new trend now and what’s more what starts as a trickle turns into a raging torrent. What use to be true at one point is not necessarily the case now, things change you know.
ShortHairThug   
20 Sep 2010
USA, Canada / Poles and Americans, what do you think, are we friends or enemies? [190]

Poles adore to kiss American a55es...

Those days are quickly coming to an end. Final destination for your average Pole are EU countries where they build new lives, set up families etc. which in time will bring a far greater sentiment and loyalty to European nations then US. The less migration to US the less sentiment for that continent, as for rebel politicians; well let’s just say they are quickly thought a proper pecking order within EU structures, soon you will see less of those rash decisions favoring US policies.