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Posts by Ironside  

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Ironside   
21 Sep 2019
News / Poland blocks any action on climate change [569]

That is a good thing. Rather than skim out of taxpayers more money for some BS they let them keep it.
Climate is changing and there is nothing anyone can do to about it. They might as well pissh on the wind. Same difference.
Ironside   
21 Sep 2019
News / What the Polish government do to bring back home Polish immigrants? [116]

Here, in Poland,

Some things are better, same are worse and some are just different. No big deal. I think you overreacting.

why not tell people coming back from English speakung world, in advance, that their homeland, culturally is still a fairly feral, and savage country.

Are you one of those? You came across as someone who is a newcomer rather than someone who is returning.
Beside people are either more or less aware who things stand in Poland or they can check it up.
As for your opinion about culture, you are not a genius are you? Culturally English speaking countries (not only) are culturally inferior, promoting LGBT, and all that crazy neo-Marxist ideology, letting crazy fanatics run amok and terrorise and shut up those who disagree with them. It is going down the hill fast. Seems like Soviet Union won in the west - culturally.

I gather that you meant some practical issues, legislation, organization and general unhelpful attitude of a state towards its citizens.

'reverse culture shock'?just cheap election sloganeering

You said what I wanted to say.
Ironside   
20 Sep 2019
Life / Importance of Religion in Poland [187]

find the slightest fault in the church itself

the church are the people, no idea what you looking for but I have pointed out plenty of faults, they may PF job, funny you cannot notice any of it.

but the problem is that they sometimes meddle too much in Polish politics.

WTF are meowing about? Do you too have a brain of a cat? Talking rubbish and repeating slogans.
Ironside   
19 Sep 2019
News / What the Polish government do to bring back home Polish immigrants? [116]

TV because Ojciec Tadeusz is on -

Dear Sylvio F off from him, nothing to do with issues you talk about in here. Seems like you have your own BS you should dealt with a long time ago.

Also if you think that now is BAD, where have you been while PO was in charge. Not saying it is all good and dandy now,. ..

and created Poland f

What? Created a mess if anything, corrupted courts, idiotic tax system, crazy pen-pushers making decisions on a whim, no incentive to start a business and so on and so forth. Yes came back bring money - so we can tax you to the hilt, Came back put to use for the good of the country your skills and experience - yet on almost every position there is a mate or his cousin or his brother in law( not some, as much as they can even if they are retarded and do not know their own F names), family first they goes for PIS and PO. In other words go F yourself WE know better and WE don't need you, WE are jealous and resentful (being F over while they speak).

If there is a big company with money for bribes they can make a buck or too no problem, maybe a tad less now when PiS is charge.
Ironside   
19 Sep 2019
Life / Importance of Religion in Poland [187]

why the callings and attendence are dropping.

One it became more socially acceptable to not to go.
Two as I said those people were just going due to some cultural or social customs since structure of the society changed they just stopped following it.

three parent failed to pass their beliefs onto their children, sometimes due to everyday hardship and sometimes due to their negligence.
Four Soviets, removing religion from the public space, some restoration of it during post-commies times' was just a half baked efforts by weakened clergy.
Satsifed?
Ironside   
16 Sep 2019
Life / Importance of Religion in Poland [187]

So in my case it's only my perception , but with you it's the devine truth? Lmao

Yes, and it painful obvious that you see the world in certain patters which require preconception. Whilst I just draw my own conclusions basing it on some knowledge and some understanding. For you the church is a moonlit bishops are by definition conservatives and so and so forth, I wonder how you qualifying that bishop who is a homosexuals' and was kicked out for pestering young priests?

So your way of thinking is pretty stiff and stale dipped in same half-baked leftie ideas. While I see things for what they are. Sure I don't have to be 100% right, I could be wrong too but that down to missing something or no enough data.

You are wrong most of the time because you go around with preconception in your head and you ignore all the puzzles that do not fit with your word view. Enough?

Don't worry most of the people are like you or they just stick to what they know.
Ironside   
15 Sep 2019
Life / Importance of Religion in Poland [187]

I would say that they are conservative compared to the rest of society. Very much so. Recently talking about 'rainbow plague'

those are your preconception ,you see what you want to see not how the things really are, I believe only one bishop on Poland had guts to say what need to be said and society is behind him. Those who are leftie are pretty much in minority.
Ironside   
15 Sep 2019
News / Scandals, conflicts, tensions, arguments - real life examples from Poland [223]

Those judges prefer to suffer in silence.

lol! I'm sure they are and I'm sure you need to try really hard to believe them.

about a dozen people there

I'm sure that people who posted their opinions are now a troll factory. Hey it is a conspiracy all people love judges in Poland just some paid trolls working in the cellars are spreading hate. Hey it must like that otherwise your conspiracy theory goes busted.
Ironside   
15 Sep 2019
Polonia / Polonia outraged by EU interference [195]

Poland's trouble with the EU is precisely because they violated EU law.

Which law? What article or paragraph had been violated?
Ironside   
15 Sep 2019
News / Scandals, conflicts, tensions, arguments - real life examples from Poland [223]

are unable to provide one true fact that PiS trolls and haters wrote about independent judges

has anybody been sued for telling lies about people? No? There you go...off your high horse (imaginary).

also detect you

Well, I see you talking BS as usual. how a one woman and two men a troll factory? unless you want it to be so --really hard.
Ironside   
15 Sep 2019
Polonia / Polonia outraged by EU interference [195]

Which is why The British want to get out.

No, they want to get out because they think they will do a better job in keeping foreigners out. It all about it.

The EU has more checks and balances than any national government,

Are you kidding me? On what ground Mr T lunched a hate campaign against Poland? Not EU law that for sure.
Ironside   
15 Sep 2019
Life / Importance of Religion in Poland [187]

No, because you:

Listen it is not about me. It is about ability to debate. If you want to debate you need to put an argument forward not only list what I'm supposedly doing wrong. How is that relevant?, stack your arguments. Not slogans and opinions with a pinch of prejudice on the top.

So far you put one issue here:
- religion in school is bad because priests don't bend backwoods' for students near enough.. Do you know many schools in Poland or anywhere that actually do that?

School are schools and there no other way unless you into individual tutoring.
If someone claims that religion lessons in school put him off religion ,That is not even argument, is an excuse.

I disagree lesson of religion in schools puts people off religion, they are just not into it in the first place, Church attendance in Poland was always mostly a ritual and cultural thingy at least during the late PRL times. Those people or their children' just don't bother anymore to come and that is that.

think bishops are influenced by PRL

Everybody and everything is influenced by PRL and post-communisms in Poland that is a given. Is that an excuse not that is a reality - you asked and I have answered. You somehow got it wrong and are whining about it. If you misunderstood me just ask me what I meant rather than jump to some weird conclusions.

Bishops are conformists, they conform to a mainstream culture which is PC and radical liberalism, Priests that are patriotic and right wing are getting scolded, silenced or even kicked out from the priesthood while priests who are lefties are pretty much left alone. Not to mention a homosexuals' lobby that is strong and kicking. There is connection between a homosexuals' priest, soviet mole and pedophile scandals'. Why do you think Bishops in Poland haven't even touched it? Many of them are just comprised in a one way or the other and some are just opportunists and cowards.
Ironside   
15 Sep 2019
Life / Importance of Religion in Poland [187]

So you agree that state mandated preaching at them is not a good idea for the church?

It is what it is. There is plenty of things and issues I don't like, so what. It could be good or bad. The problem is all system in Poland that comes straight from PRL and hasn't been changed much and in places it had been not necessary for the better.

You clearly show with your behaviour what I mean.

Do you mean because I question your assumptions and ask you for some arguments you're unable to provide? Should I drop out of the class now?
Ironside   
15 Sep 2019
Life / Importance of Religion in Poland [187]

yes, they're teenagers, by definition they're cheeky and ignorant.

That is what I said. Thanks for agreeing with me. It is what it is. Neither of us is in the position to do something about it.
Ironside   
15 Sep 2019
Life / Importance of Religion in Poland [187]

religion is not physics. It's based on belief

Exactly so no about of back and forth will make any difference as to whether or not they are believers or not. They are there to learn what is what.

The dogmas of faith are not that different from theory of relativity or any other scientific theory.
Those are not just pulled out of someone backside on a whim but haver been worked on for centuries on the ground of other works (thinkers, philosophers).

It all stands on the works of great minds some puny kid cannot compare with. So it is exactly as if some students would challenge Einstein's theories just because ....

Anyway we can merry go around with this so why don't you put it here what exactly was questioned.

If the priests carry on that way people will drop classes andadd to the trend of church loosing parishioners.

So what? Are you concerned? An explanation is not an excuse if you cannot differentiate between those YOU have a problem.

You see we have something called the separation of state and churche.

Yes and have you seen the church making a political stand or have you seen bishops taking seats in the parliament?>Maybe there is a party financed and run by the clergy? No? So my question stand WTF are you buzzing about mindlessly?

Some individual priest that voice his opinions or views on politicks? So what? After all their people and Polish citizens too. If some Commie A-hole who oppressed people and now is getting is pension from the taxpayers is allowed to do anything in politicks even in KOD or what not, why a priest is not allowed to have a say? Totalitarian and discriminatory much?

There is no downfall of the church. I don't know what you mean.
Ironside   
14 Sep 2019
Polonia / Poles in Kazakhstan ignored by the "Polish" state. [18]

Well, in same ways they are and in same they aren't.
They're less Soviet then an alternative.
There two points:
they are better than PO alternative by far and there is nothing better that would generate support of majority of the voters - sadly.
Ironside   
14 Sep 2019
Life / Importance of Religion in Poland [187]

moved from:

about openly challenging the dogma.

If you are a student you learn what there is to learn you don't challenge while learning basics, especially big no no is to challenge the dogma a clue lie in that name. What you mean there is more outspoken opinionated fools. Anyway devil is in details but basically it is as if some students were challenging Newtown's laws of motion or better still Theory of relativity. That is all and dandy but 99,999% of students are not on the level to do that. They can only voice their opinions or repeat what they heard.

So the lesson get busted by but ...but.. ITHINK that ...which is pointless. To challenge anything properly one needs to have skills to do it and such a knowledge students do not posses. They are just being cheeky and ignorant.

IF a priest said something along the lines no debating with them, he was right although it was a tactical mistake. He should have said instead OK so I understand that St Thomas of Aquin as well as St Augustine of Hippo, Thomas More and their works you know by heart and we can move to more complex issues.

Don't get me started about ingrate upstarts.

Who cares if they were or were not affected by PRL.

hmm a normal person that ask questions that aren't rhetorical ones and a one who is not biased.

I don't care what tou get peeved with.

It doesn't answer MY question. Meaning you're just jabbering away empty slogans you don't understand, spewing BS and an utter tripe. You are the one who has to live with it not me.

priesrs get openly involved

So what? Are they not Polish citizens? IF commie criminals have that right why would you discriminate against priests?
Ironside   
14 Sep 2019
Polonia / Polonia outraged by EU interference [195]

The EU is simply a referee,

the EU is a mess. It is not a federal state as it pretends to be nether it is an international organization that agrees on some economical and pollical actions, It is an organization that pretend to be an impartial referee but in fact want to be a centralized gov. that has all the power of such a gov but not check and balances or responsibility of such a gov.
Ironside   
14 Sep 2019
Life / Why Do You Love Poland? [850]

hat teens stopped just listening without challenging

What makes you think that teens ever were listening to anything without challenging or a pinch of salt? I think you better get rid of some imaginary patters that do not exist in real life.

the bishops

the bishops as well as others were harmed by the Soviet occupation and post-communisms in Poland.

church involvment in politics

What involvement in politics,. I'm always peeved by this empty slogan that gets repeated by tools. WTF do you mean by that other than I disagree with this or that so my opponents should shut the hell up.
Ironside   
14 Sep 2019
Life / Why Do You Love Poland? [850]

you will eat that carp

yuck Who would eat something like that?

a fking satanist

Nah that is too much - Satanists to Siberia.
Ironside   
14 Sep 2019
Off-Topic / USA News and Poland - Part 2 [1745]

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Ironside   
14 Sep 2019
Polonia / Polonia outraged by EU interference [195]

No, it is quite the opposite.

Headless drivel, hence you are just a F peasant and should keep your mug shut.
Ironside   
14 Sep 2019
Life / Why Do You Love Poland? [850]

Polish, in my opinion is the assimilation into Polish society and the acceptance of those traditions, language, and customs of the country.

and take them as your own and work for good of the country.
Yep. It is an essence of the Polish culture. There is problem as in Poland exits a foreign implant and some people are part of Soviet culture. As long as you steer away from them you should be OK.
Ironside   
14 Sep 2019
News / Scandals, conflicts, tensions, arguments - real life examples from Poland [223]

PiS nominated and controlled judges

Was the info they posted on so called Judges false? No!
Those people shouldn't be judges even for a second - soviet -PO- scum.In fact they should fire all of them and take in a new bunch with some values plus change the system, I would even go with American system, not prefect but OK.

PiS is one big cesspool

Po are incompetent fools, criminals, traitors, F peasants and tools and you defend them to the hilt. Why is that? Are you one of them?

Drinking for 4 days with young beautiful women

sounds like fun but F peasant like him should stick to what he knows best i.e. being a bum, well post-commies in Poland promote zeros like him all the time.

What don't I understand about PiS and their neo-PRL management style?

That there is nothing in Poland that is better. It is sad but true. What you take for liberalism in PO rule was just a chaos of a banana republic.
Ironside   
14 Sep 2019
USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [566]

Most Poles I know are fairly intolerant,uptight, not as open minded as West Europeans, not particularly humanistic and quite prejudiced.

Hey I wound appreciate if you elaborate a tad bit more and explained in detail what you have in mind.
Ironside   
14 Sep 2019
Polonia / What are qualites of Germans? [60]

You call it a good quality? then the Borg are the best.
If you're clueless here:
he Borg are a fictional alien group that appear as recurring antagonists in the Star Trek franchise. The Borg are cybernetic organisms, linked in a hive mind called "the Collective".
Ironside   
14 Sep 2019
USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [566]

because I came to America when America was America only to watch America leave me to start morphing into a socialist crap

So, you are so called patient zero. All that bad luck you have brought on those people. Shame on you.