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Ironside   
27 Jun 2010
News / US shouldn't interfere in Polish election (Polish-American Advocacy Initiative) [60]

I hope she doesn't go because she will give our money to Poland again.

where is that money ? What about 4 billions US dollars or more we paid for some military rubbish made in usa?

You'd still waiting in line for toilet paper

What are you about? having ****** life eh?

Its like Europeans pretending that their countries are still sovereign. Very amusing to u

Sure, tell me can Pennsylvania leave the Union?I'm sure you don't need much to be amused is not a bad thing,thought.

You are a very talkative today, regained your spunk Johnny ?
Ironside   
27 Jun 2010
History / Give back Lwow to Poland and Kaliningrad to Germany - is it possible? [198]

But it does, newsflash for you Germans want stuff back, they're not willing to go to war or take it back via any sort of malevolent action, they dont have the population to do it either but they still want Wrocław back, if Poland re-aquires Lwów the question of Wrocław will rise the moment some Steinbach monkey comes to prominence in Germany.

T
Where is a will there is a way, right now I'm talking about will, and mucho depend on a way it will be done - so is good to predict some problems to find a way to avoid them- is that clear enough ?

Lwów was Polish, Wrocław was German, the situation is analogous.

Germans lost. Poland won( at last theoretically), German aggressors, evicting population, grabbing land - who seeds wind, harvest tempest or what goes around comes around :)

Similar doesn't means the same!
Ironside   
27 Jun 2010
History / Give back Lwow to Poland and Kaliningrad to Germany - is it possible? [198]

People like you want to exchange a city that Ukraine has messed up for 50 years for a city we've rebuilt practically from scratch and developed into one of Polands major metropolis.

What are you about?I don't think about exchange. I angry because some people have coded in their brains that regaining our land in the east automatically means that we have to give up lands in the west.

That connection is not logical nor right, it is connection made by communist propaganda, so deeply ingrained that some brainless schmooze cannot get it out of his head.
Ironside   
25 Jun 2010
History / Poland in the eyes of London - before WWII. [60]

No, that is the same tired old lie that Poles trot out. Find a new one.

No, that the fact, you are just making excuses, either stop making excuses on behalf of France and Britain or provide me with a prove that Polish Government before WWII signed with said country's not an alliance but semblance of an alliance.

why was Polands attempts to grab land they saw as theirs but stolen at versailles so noble and righteous

What are you about?

but Germanys far more sensable and well,justified claim over danzig and a road to East prussia

Really? Who told you that?Hitler or Stalin ?

Just dont get

Fine, stop making presumption and simply ask!

Poles, as anybody who has ever met any will know, are a nation that is never ever wrong.

Holly-molly that exactly like you Harry!
Ironside   
23 Jun 2010
History / Poland in the eyes of London - before WWII. [60]

What exactly did POLAND do in 1938/39 to stop the rise of Nazi Germany????

The Nazi Germany rise in 1933/36 so, your question is not only simple but silly, considering that Poland could avoid all this hassle consenting to German proposal of an alliance.

I'll answer it anyway - Refusing alliance with Hitler and fighting as the first country against Nazi Germany.

I think he's making some rather good points or is is okay to slander the British and expect them not to retaliate?

What point it would be? Even if sometimes he makes some sense generally he is only slandering and mocking and given that the most of the PF posters have no intimate knowledge of the Polish history and ALL the circumstances his evil twist give it appearance of the truth.

Also even if some posters use inappropriate word or expression, crux of the matter is that you cannot discus with facts, and fact is that Britain and France didn't attack Germany as they promised.

Second fact is that Poland didn't regain independence after 1945 and the rest is only silence. I think that is good that this void is filled with words and I don't think that sense of betrayal many Poles feels (passed by WWII generation ) couldn't be quenched or addressed by - you are stupid bastards and you ******* Poles deserved it all.

Which is exactly what Harry does.

That's a rather broad quote, most English people didnt even know where Poland was before WWII and to suggest otherwise is a quite rediculous.

Saying London I mean government and ruling class, not general population.

They're not going to materialise any time soon.

see above :)

Does taking part in the Nazi invasion of Czechoslovakia in 1938 count?

Yes, as it wasn't taking Part in the Nazi invasion but direct challenge to Hitler, one which he understood. The same goes for a many Czechoslovakian soldiers who often with their arms come to Poland and offered their services to Polish Army for a chance to fight against Germans. I'm sure that you know better Harry than those officers and soldiers.

Once again topic is - before WWII
Ironside   
23 Jun 2010
USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]

I mean, all the pro family, pro welfare policies - these are all fundamentally socialist. It's no bad thing!

There is more to PiS than pro family and welfare policies, its seems to me that you don't perceive it.
Ironside   
23 Jun 2010
History / Poland in the eyes of London - before WWII. [60]

Why

Dear Harry would you kindly buzz off my thread as you are not really contributing to it.
Topic is Poland in the eyes of London BEFORE WWII!
Your views (if someone is kind enough to call this pile of hummus - views) about Poland and Polish history is known to anybody who is on PF longer then a week.

You and Ozi Dan should make thread for both of you - Ozi Dan and Harry exchange their views on Poland, Polish history and life.

I-S ( its actually a pretty good idea)

Not that I do not appreciate Ozi Dan contribution.
However it would be interesting if someone shared his/her knowledge about British perception of Poland before WWII and I mean BEFORE!
Ironside   
23 Jun 2010
USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]

Why did they ever call that pis?

L&O
:)

But I actually think that once Kaczynski goes, we might see PiS finally transform into a proper modern Catholic-socialist party. And there's nothing wrong with that - Catholic social teaching and socialist economy views mixed together could be quite popular in Poland, and certainly credible if they toned down the hysteria.

I don't agree with your view of PiS as a socialist party, although some liberal extremist seems to share your opinion.
However I consent to your observation with minor modification, that politics in Poland is hysterical and lack serious debate.
Ironside   
22 Jun 2010
USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]

Nah she doesn't, but she's a PiS voter though..

well, make sure that she know your political allegation in case she would like to include you in her last will.

Not

What is really interesting is what vexing incentive you have in Komorowski election as you are Scot.
Ironside   
22 Jun 2010
USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]

Nah she doesn't, but she's a PiS voter though..

Then she is life failure pry tell me!?

What about Kaczynski lies could be more specific?
Ironside   
22 Jun 2010
USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]

easily swayed by Kaczynski's lies..

what lies?elaborate please

As for Ameripoles - my aunt lives in states and the polonia that lives in her closest area ,from what I know, is rasist and xenophobic (she is too),

You are lucky to save your pristine openness for others, must be a burden to have such a family, I hope aunt has children I hope!?
Ironside   
22 Jun 2010
Love / Polish men what is the worst thing a girl can do upon first impression? [360]

You contradict yourself in this sentence, you do realise that, do you? War = primitive, so a culture which is warlike is per definition primitive. But I know you mean well, so that's ok.

so our civilization or culture is primitive

I-S (good night, I will answer to your points some other time as I'm very sleepy)
Ironside   
22 Jun 2010
History / Poland in the eyes of London - before WWII. [60]

What you said was incomplete. I just completed it.

you made it unnecessary complex

because for those who know something about it there is no need to elaborate ...for those with no knowledge your complexity is confusing ....in fact you are showing off

How about the topic of the thread?
I-S (no bother, I feel in my guts that you would be good at it unlike history)
Ironside   
22 Jun 2010
Love / Polish men what is the worst thing a girl can do upon first impression? [360]

And you wouldn't call that primitive? I would. I'm well educated and I don't feel the need to compete with sb else as it's no use.

Well, you make money, aren't you proud that you are better at it than some?
You compete even on this very forum - but being educated and more refine - you compete with wit.

Our culture is various and all the shadows and mutation can find its niche but I can see clearly - our culture is warlike and always were like it!Primitivism has nothing to do with it!

I-S (read again posts I think you don't get what I'm saying, anybody does?)

sighs with exasperation
Ironside   
22 Jun 2010
History / Poland in the eyes of London - before WWII. [60]

hat's actually true. Early 1940, up until April 1940 Hitler

Doesn't matter what Hitler wanted! It was Britain that wanted to keep Germans in check, Britain and France.

Not correct. It's WW1 in which this aspect played a part. Not in WW2. In WW2 there were other aspects, not the balance of power. The balance of power wasn't as much an issue in 1939 as it was in the teens of the 20th Century.

balalaika ballaha ...
to make it simple .....they were willing to give to Hitler Czechoslovakia, Austria and maybe Poland but were afraid that he will go for France .... after digestion that is ...
Ironside   
22 Jun 2010
Love / Polish men what is the worst thing a girl can do upon first impression? [360]

Then tell me, if we are all so civilized and all, why do ppl still fight?

because its our culture, to be somebody to achieve, at last to be better than somebody else at fist fighting, its all there ....don't you see.

In the core of our culture and reality is war, who is more powerful ....who will rule?

If we are in a more matured civilization,

I think that you are adding some meaning to the word "civilization" - which I do not.
For me it means the world culture or western culture if you get my drift ?

You really want me to respond to that?

Yeah! What stopping you?

I-S (people?!)
Ironside   
22 Jun 2010
Love / Polish men what is the worst thing a girl can do upon first impression? [360]

Such thinking did not take over the world, clever thinking took over the world, primitive thinking only causes wars.
You can do better than this. This is plain stupid.

No, you are wrong here!
There is clear that patriarchate, private property, competitiveness between members of the same tribe, gathering of wealth and power, chief is all one packed - base of our civilization.

The mentality is the same!
First agriculture was achievement of women and it seems that first cultures of farmers were matriarchal.
In Europe and Asia those cultures were taken over by warlike culture of keepers and herders of livestock - our culture immediate ancestors (pastoralism).
Privet property found the organization of the society around profit and wealth as the highest achievement in life.
Such culture and mentality in their more matured form went over the ocean to the New World and conquered those cultures, which seemed to be build more around different values, hence inability of Indians to grasp the conception of individual land ownership.

I-S (stupid eh? )
Ironside   
22 Jun 2010
History / Poland in the eyes of London - before WWII. [60]

We've been taught history and not force fed shyt!

nah nah ...someone is angry:)

I wish we'd have allied ourselves with Germany! We are Germanic after all!

sure, according to above logic Poles should allied themselves with Russians, who would be eating **** then :D

britain went to war because they were concerned with the growth of german power disrupting the balance of power in europe.

bingo !
It wouldn't been first time :)

How about the thread topic then?
Ironside   
21 Jun 2010
History / Poland in the eyes of London - before WWII. [60]

Of course, countries act in their own interest (or they should act in their own interest) what do you expect?

I know, but our neighbours across the pond are nursing some delusions.

1938 Britain sent troops to Czechoslovakia to aid the czechs against the germans,where as,what did Poland do,oh yes,took the oppertunity to invade slovakia as the nazis marched on the sudetenland,not criket old boy.

Why, its was Czechoslovakia that refused to ally itself with Poland.
Yet I have learned one interesting detail in 1938 while Poland and Germany have reasonably friendly relations, Britain was bent on stopping Germans and was serious by the sound of it.

It speak loudly to those who listen - Britain as early as in 1938 were determined to stop Germany in Europe, so much that didn't hesitate to sent soldiers to fight against German Army.

What reasons are they then oh master historian?

Well, guess :)
Ironside   
20 Jun 2010
UK, Ireland / I have concerns over the British immigration policy so I wrote to my MP. [126]

I see nothing wrong your expectation and I don't find them unreasonable.
Although I don't see what workable system has to do with "putting British people first"(we could have a little discussion if you wish to elaborate what do you mean by above expression.

I simply in words of the politician you quoted failed to see the promise you were talking about and Amethyst didn't see it either.

I don't put much faith in politicians and tend to see thing as they really are .....
Ironside   
20 Jun 2010
History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]

Without the Brits declaring war on Germany, Poland most likely wouldn't exist today.

Without Brits giving guarantee to Poland which clearly they wouldn't been able to fulfil - Germans most likely wouldn't attack Poland.