News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

Fine, just give a brief definition and history of this tradition and all will be well.

News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

This so called "tradition" has no basis in reality, if it is clear and obvious explain what it is and when it was established as a tradition?

Before going further we need to know exactly what it is because it seems to mean different things to different people.

News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

What is this Jewish Christian tradition? Is it religious, political, cultural, a mix of all three and none or is it just a made up thing.

Where was this great undefined idea during Europe's religious wars or earlier before and during the East West schism? How did this so called tradition change to accommodate the changes in both Christianity and The Jewish faiths?

The Christian part is not a unified or settled idea so how do we know what the writer means before he introduces ideas from other schools of thought.

People who use this phrase usually have no idea what they are typing.

News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

Islam and Christianity have a common root in Jewishness there the connection ends. It is not clear that there is a "tradition" linking these religions other than let's be nice to people.

News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]


They do but it's still bollox there is no Judeo/Christian tradition. No one starts a religion by saying let's be bad to people, the roots are unimportant.

News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]


There is no such thing it's made up nonsense, trying to group Christianity into one group is silly let alone adding another religion.


Yes really,the nuts that trot out this Judo/Christian stuff do so because it sounds good.

News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]


Every time I see phrases like this or cognitive dissonance, suspend belief/disbelief or the elephant in the room I hang my head. It's like wood chip wall paper in the 70s everywhere but still a bad idea.

Judeo-Christian foundations what a load of crap.....

News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]


You are not European, you arrive in some other country as part of an army and expect everyone to love you, whats wrong have you run out of blacks and Jews to hate?

UK, Ireland / Agnieszka Pomaska, beautiful Polish politician [43]

Forget about what she said........
youtube.com/watch?v=KnYoFmBagmk

Love / Poland's virginity market [17]

Christ on a horse, are you scraping the bottom of the barrel for every story.

Jesus, english (as foreign) language papers are generally trash but that takes some beating. Are there no stories about how no one speaks English in the town hall or how things are better back home?

UK, Ireland / Why can't unemployed Polish people on benefits just leave UK and go home please? [240]

All I'm doing is pointing out the inconsistencies that free market evangelists gloss over.
You stated that richer countries tend to have less government intervention I'm saying that that is not true.
You want to remove benefits from the poor but not the rich I'm saying that is socialism for the rich.

Thats it really, nothing too complicated.

Its not really about winning or loosing, exchanging ideas in some cases allows openminded people to change or refine their view of things.

UK, Ireland / Why can't unemployed Polish people on benefits just leave UK and go home please? [240]

No government nothing to get in the way of the free market so all should be good after all you said that rich countries tend to have less government. Are you not astounded that Somalia isnt thriving?

If a lack of a functioning government is a problem for economic growth move next door and look at other African countries. What one finds is that as the state becomes more competent and regulatory the economy becomes more productive. Rich countries have more government intervention than poor countries. If you are suggesting that there is some kind of threshold after which government intervention becomes a hinderance I can only point you to the disaster that hit the west when socialist nationalisation saved the day. Regulation was removed in the financial sector and look what happened.

You have no problem with the state subsidising everything but the poor, look at the amount of money thrown at the banking sector for example, socialism in practice for the rich but how dare the poor be subsidised. It is morally and economically wrong to write off whole generations of people but why should they not be subsidised like the rich in the absence of any other strategy. EU citizens going to Britain have to be treated the same as everyone else the tiny amount of money involved is not an issue.

UK, Ireland / Why can't unemployed Polish people on benefits just leave UK and go home please? [240]

I dont have to leave Europe to enjoy the fruits of the state, in fact all rich countries have much more state intervention than poor countries it is clearly good for business.

That is why Germany has a better economy than Somalia....

UK, Ireland / Why can't unemployed Polish people on benefits just leave UK and go home please? [240]


The converse is true, poor countries have next to no regulation rich countries have lots.

The point is that benefits subsidise the rich by supplying a cheap pool of labour so that industry and commerce can thrive, thats the business plan Thatcher implemented. Of course they had to go back to good old nationalisation to save the western economies, its great to be able to say I told you so when the benefits of Socialism have been tested and worked.

UK, Ireland / Why can't unemployed Polish people on benefits just leave UK and go home please? [240]

Haulage companies are just an example of subsidies that free marketeers like. In places like Dublin or London the entire economy is propped up with state subsidies. Without benefits these places would stop generating wealth.

The free movement of capital means the free movement of people that's what the EU is designed for. With the lack of an economic policy beyond nationalise debt, privatise profit it's not really surprising that people have been ignored. The crazy economic nonsense of the 80s is responsible for this mess.

UK, Ireland / Why can't unemployed Polish people on benefits just leave UK and go home please? [240]

How much would things cost if haulage companies had to pay for the roads and their upkeep? Removing subsidies from the unemployed or people with large families is easy to argue while enjoying all the other state subsidies however the economic and social consequences would be too big to hide.

It's a self flattering delusion that one can be an independent man island which is impossible unless one is Robinson Crusoe.

UK, Ireland / Why can't unemployed Polish people on benefits just leave UK and go home please? [240]


I dont mean royalty, would you like to see all subsidies removed not just subsidies to individuals.

It would be strange to remove subsidies from the unemployed yet retain them for farmers and most commerce for example

UK, Ireland / Why can't unemployed Polish people on benefits just leave UK and go home please? [240]

At what point would it be OK to remove health care?

UK, Ireland / Why can't unemployed Polish people on benefits just leave UK and go home please? [240]


That would never work the middle class would be up in arms, no one to subsidise their cleaners, where are they supposed to get cheap labour, that would be a breach of their human rights.

Farmers not being subsidised is unthinkable never mind the opera or theatre, transport would be great without benefits, all those businesses having to pay for the roads they dont pay for at the moment. I'm with you, benefits should only be for royalty.

UK, Ireland / The Changing Attitude Towards the Poles in Ireland [21]


That's about it

UK, Ireland / Mentally ill people in British society [55]


I remember watching a current affairs doc, the mid week ITV one, called Italy's mad law the double meaning was intended. It was about care in the community and was seen as revolutionary at the time. Italy's practice wasn't the penny pinching variety Thatcher introduced in Britain but a true example of care in the community and the first in Europe.

UK, Ireland / The Changing Attitude Towards the Poles in Ireland [21]


What are you talking about?

I dont believe his story, he said he was treated as 2nd class in Ireland compared with his treatment in other countries then changed it to say others felt the same. I know you dont like Irish people but what are you saying?

UK, Ireland / The Changing Attitude Towards the Poles in Ireland [21]

Hi pass
You have a hard time and I must say met some strange people. Its universally accepted that the crash was caused by rampant freemarket madness, no one blames anyone other than Bankers, property developers and FF for the crash.

Irish people going on holiday.............ah crap I just dont believe your story its so full of holes, if this is your level of English its no surprise you haven't got the CEO job you feel entitled to.

UK, Ireland / The Changing Attitude Towards the Poles in Ireland [21]

Ireland's economy is based on turning the country into a tax haven within the EU that is not exactly locking out the rest of the world, nor is welcoming huge numbers of immigrants.

Could you expand on being treated as a second class citizen in Ireland as opposed to the other places you have been?

History / Future of Kaliningrad Oblast - is it possible to annex by Poland or will it become an independent country? [137]


There is no way the Russians will sell their territory to any foreigners. When the Germans started murdering people for what ever legal reason they cared to invent they lost any moral or legal claim and may think themselves lucky they were allowed to retain a country.

Genealogy / Help needed about my Polish surname, Dobbert. [73]


A £60 Ryan air ticket did.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2874]


Most countries in Europe allow for that and most European countries have sensible safeguards in place to protect the public.

We have been over this countless times the simple fact remains more guns means more gun deaths.

UK, Ireland / And you wonder why there is Anti-Polish feeling in the UK [187]

Is there any chance of you picking one username and sticking to it?
Rant away, there Is nothing more any reasonable person can add that will progress this pointless exchange

UK, Ireland / And you wonder why there is Anti-Polish feeling in the UK [187]


At the risk of repeating myself, the film makers filmed hooligans doing hooligan stuff at a football match or two. They showed the footage to Sol Campbell who said don't go to either country. He didn't say go, enjoy the countries but avoid the stadia he said don't go full stop.

It was broadcast just before the Euros began and claimed to tell the truth of what people visiting Poland and Ukraine could expect.
That was not true as we now know, his opinion was given prominence by the BBC which added weight to his words. Now when he claims that Britain is racist his opinion has suddenly become meaningless.....Other contributors to this broadcast distanced themselves from it claiming that it wasn't an accurate representation of Poland and that it was clear that the film makers were working to a not too flattering agenda, the BBC denied this.

So we are left with a situation where the program contained material from someone the BBC effectively said was unreliable yet you still think that it painted a realistic picture, I find that particularly odd.

Food / Is Domino's Pizza popular in Poland? [18]


With or without ketchup?