Genealogy / Josef Surowiec from Wojkon (can't find this town) and his ancestors [24]

David, I can look in my ancestry for your Antoni. I have it till March or April, I will go
look on the Ellis island and see if I can read it. I read them pretty well. some are
really smudged, or just unreadable. but i can try :) Patty

Jozef Surowiec
Arrival Date: Jun 1900
Age: 32 Years 0 Months Years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Bremen, Germany
Ship Name: Dresden
Port of Arrival: Baltimore, Maryland
Destination: Illinois
Friend's Name: W Potepa
Last Residence: Wola Womalkowska
Microfilm Roll Number: 19
Page: 122

David, I found this one, I don't know what the ages are or dates of birth so I am doing
a guess on it.
as for the Ellis island misspellings, I find it to be true in many cases of my family where
I have found them and the spellings were chopped up badly. Most of the immigrants
didn't speak English, so if they did say their name, the person taking the name down
spelled it phonetically, this was also true for death and birth records for immigrants

don't get discouraged, that good ole brick wall smacks us all once in a while. you will
get there :) Patty

There is also a Antonia going to Chicago and her town is Krakow. don't know if this
one is yours, but she is going to Chicago, i didn't look at the manifests. just trying to
find the ones you need. I can email them to you though if you would like that :)

Patty.

Ok Antonia is going to Kazmier Rakuska 87 Elston ave? that is what it says, and she is
going to Chicago Illinois.

Food / Polish Golabki (Golomki) Recipe [35]

Well it all sounds delicious!!

I have to make mine with the lesser fat content because my daughter has to be
on low fat diet, so we have to use lean ground round or sirloin hamburger.
and I dont add the pork because of the fat.

even my mother had used only hamburger, but me being third generation, some
of the recipes are gone, and I just do what my mother had taught me but only with
the fat taken out of the meals.

we all eat the same, because preparing differently would make a headache for me
so I just do it like it is suppose to be for our daughter.

Food / Polish Golabki (Golomki) Recipe [35]

Hey! I just made those, I told my hubby to take emm to work, but he forgot, I should
have froze them, but forgot <~me bad. so they went to the GB disposal.

I have a bad habit of cooking for like thirty people.

Love / Polish men's pride! [23]

Sarah, what was it that he did?

as for pride, every man has it, depends on the argument, or situation.
but , in any case, man or woman it is always good to be one up and and be the better
person! :)

ok, let me refrase that.

as I asked what he did, he argued with his boss. well, it depends on what it was he
argued about, because if he was right, then it should be the boss apologizing.

I know money dont grow on trees, but I would never work for a cut throat employer!
and hopefully I never find out I am.. lol

Love / Polish men's pride! [23]

lol. ooopsey, my bad. brain malfunction.. lol

going back to the kitchen to fill up on more tea!!

Genealogy / Poland Genealogy Resources [130]

rootsweb.com/~polwgw/polandgen.html

To help uncover Polish Ancestry.

home.att.net/~Local_Catholic/Catholic-Poland.htm

Catholic Resources for Ancestor search.

worsten.org/galicio/indeksoj_gal/en_gal.htm

Another Useful link for people researching Galicia.

archiwum.krakow.pl/menueng.php

The State Archive in Cracow.

feefhs.org/BLITZ/HEREDITARY_NOBILITY.htm

More useful genealogy links.

Love / Are Polish men shy and take things slow? [116]

Krysia, that is such a sweet picture, aww. "teary eyed"

Love / Are Polish men shy and take things slow? [116]

This picture brings tears to my eyes also :) :) :)


Krysia, you made a very cute couple.

Life / Child Adoption in Poland? [138]


That makes sense, if I had the money to adopt I would get least two more children
boys, cause I have two girls. I already have a child with a metabolic disorder. she
looks normal, but alot happens without proper medical attention.

wanted to ask to, can someone look up Trifunctional Protein defiency in Poland?
I want to know if there are any children with this same metabolic disorder there
as well. my daughter is number 15 in the world, but I dont know where all the others
are from, only maybe two that I have spoke with.

Love / Why do Polish women prefer foreigners for boyfriends and husbands? [418]


Bunch of garbage, any man can be all of this, or turn out to be just the opposite.

just like any woman can be all of this or just the opp.

your describing alcoholics- any man can be a drinker, not take a shower for days and
reek . its called choices, we make our own choices.

if you choose the wrong path, then yeah, later on it will bite you in the arse.
but sorry, dont agree with this I have to knock down polish men crap.

there are plenty of them on here who are sucessful and very well mannered and
have morals, so your assumption is really kinda off the wall.

but narrowminded -quit wastin the threads post more intelligent conversations please.

Love / Polish women are the most beautiful in the world! [1718]


Those arent women those are women trying to be men lol hahahaha. kidding.

as for the slob part. I have seen some really nasty looking dudes with their butt
cracks hangin out (plummers butt) and showers dont look like they were on the
agenda that day!! lol

Love / Polish women are the most beautiful in the world! [1718]


lol frank, again some are. but, this could be result of laziness, lack of funds, or
both!

quote=Patrycja19, Post #70 ]seen some [/quote]
no not all of emm are. but I had to throw that in there. lol

I am sure there a men with plummers butt all over the world. lol


Frank Quit stirrin the pot. ok so you like polish women, that should be the end
of the convo.

your a man, should know that others would take some offense to that statment
because in this big old world, you know you cant say things like that without
taking some deep thought into how it might affect others.

I personally dont care if anyone thinks American women are fat, ugly, whatever.

I know what i have to do personally to keep up with the times. dont let little statements
from these guys get at ya. we all have beauty/good souls. with out a woman the
man is not whole!
Plus, be pretty sore with the hands "know what i mean" lol

I am sure that there is much agreement to that statement!

Love / Polish women are the most beautiful in the world! [1718]


Maciej. lol

did u keep distance?? lol sometimes there is green fog coming from these
plummers butts, so its best to stay at least a block or so away in case of
downwind!! lol

sorry frank highjacked the thread. butt all in good fun.


Frank, I dont have to tell you or any other man about ROSEY ? she is the girl
of your dreams, she stands by her man, lol. ok she holds her man.

Besides the only time a man needs to call up ROsey is when he is in the doghouse!


I know you meant no harm, your shouting out what you feel. but at the same
time, you have to remember that and I have said this before, real people real feelings.

gosh, do I have to send you to your room?? lol

Love / Polish women are the most beautiful in the world! [1718]


yes there is a saying here in the USA< ya cant rape the willing lol .

Shoot, forgot the smack ok "SMACK" go to your room ! ma Signature!

Love / Polish women are the most beautiful in the world! [1718]

lmao!! :) :)

Love / Polish women are the most beautiful in the world! [1718]


get off yer high horse,. it was a joke, and not directed at anyone . as for buffoons
thats a original from when 1659??

I was talking to frank, and I never once insulted you , if you dont like my posts
then dont READ THEM!!!!!!!!! Why dont you take your big mouth and go
wash it cause its spitting out green fog!

Matter of fact, I was sticking up for you, and miranda for franks saying
what he did, and here in America we do have slang that refers to that with
People who are nimphomaniacs. it was a joke.

but, forget it, frank have a go at it. shes lost it big time!

Love / Polish women are the most beautiful in the world! [1718]

Frank, that was my post to Amathyst.

as for she never had it, What are you referring to?

I see alot of confusion in cultures, this is really bad.

no wonder so many are fighting! because we dont understand one another!

Love / Polish women are the most beautiful in the world! [1718]

Ahhhhhhhh.... ok, I probably need to go make cup of tea and wake up some more :)

it is true, I was referring to your saying I might like it comment ... nothing to do with
actual Rape Victims, she went a blew it way out of line..

Then she says to you to stay out of her persoal space. and its a public forum?

someone needs their midol!!!

Love / Polish women are the most beautiful in the world! [1718]

Agree with Frank, he was being positive. I understood their posts too, because
saying that, basically you were generalizing, even though its your personal opinion
and I myself didnt take it personally, but again, being on this side of the fence, it
is a statement that can hurt feelings in SOME cultures.

But I know you meant it as positive towards Polish Women and how you feel
personally. And this also should be taken into consideration.

Work / I want to move to Poland (but of course we need to find a good job) [117]

Yep its you, Hey Casper :) so did you set a wedding date yet?? lol

I still remember :)

Work / I want to move to Poland (but of course we need to find a good job) [117]

how sweet, your getting there, BTW Ive been able to view the other forum and read
some of those posts you put out there, have to say, good ole Casper, you had me
LMAO dude. to funny. your G/F is Lucky, cant find all of the above in one man :)

ok back to the board :) good to see you again. hope you will hang out for a while
lots of interesting stuff going on in here :)

P

Love / Polish women are the most beautiful in the world! [1718]


To all whom see this post as offensive, it wasnt meant to be, I will apologize to
the whole forum (MINUS SHELLEY) for my comment as we do live in different
cultures, Rape is not funny, but it was used in different context then to the one
shelly is referring to and I want to clear that up before the Queen of hate comes
back. MY views are not what she is letting others think, so to clean my slate of
any Wrong comments, I should have Kept that one to myself as certain people
get off finding reasons to be a ***** !!!!!

Love / Polish women are the most beautiful in the world! [1718]


ya have the right to think anyway you want to. its per ones choice. good for you
for stating your personal feelings on the issue.

USA, Canada / Polish people in Alaska [41]

They get Payed to live there..... looks like were all moving to alaska :) lol

Life / Alcohol problems of Polish people [141]


my two brothers drink, one alot, one sorta mellow, but gets happy drunk.

Ive heard this is more a genetic issue, Rather then Nationality.

Drinking in Moderation is fine. my brother will probably die soon, his liver is
probably looking like a marshmellow from all the wisky, I love him dearly, but
this isnt genetic, its mentally challenging to stop, especially since his body now
needs it. will probably send him into heart failure.

so dammed if you do and dammed if you dont.
sorry to have dismantled this post, but its not Polish that just drink, its all nations
and it isnt genetic, no one forces that bottle to your lips. but once your body needs
it, your stuck forever.
as far as drinking the stuff strait, I dont know how anyone can drink it strait and
not know that it can do something to your liver.
People who have liver failure , in the end stages BLEED OUT>

meaning it comes out of every hole in your body. and there is nothing any doctor
god or anyone can do for you. you blood drains from your body.

I drink to, maybe once every 6 months, sorry to have such a crappy feeling towards it
but, watching people I love around me die , well, nuff said.

Life / Alcohol problems of Polish people [141]


u r right, I wish my brother would just stop, hes the most coolest brother in the world
helps me in so many ways, he still works, isnt a menace to society, like always in the
hospital, he works hard, he just likes his drinks, but he has driven and lost his license
and think has a temp one. before my mom died, when she was getting sicker, with cancer
he had went to jail for the DUI which was his third.

he served his time, came home on mothers day, my mom said that was the best
mothers day gift she ever had, and we all sat together and had nice dinner, she
was very proud of him.

when she died, he signed the papers (no cpr) which is what I was going to do, knowing
that might send him back to drinking, the nurse brought the paper to him, after
that he felt as though it was his fault, so he turned back to the bottle.

but he stayed sober till she passed and after wards for about six months, it was
eating at him.

I know what you say is true, because he has done it. and its weakness for all who
become addicted, something sends them back to it.


for quitting that is. he said he was sorry to her for making things hard for her.
we all had a good cry, hugs. just alot of support.

Life / Alcohol problems of Polish people [141]


I just want him to stop, but he wont listen till something happens, which now he
dont drive at all while drinking (smart) but he still drinks till he passes out.

hes good brother, great uncle to my children (spoils emm rotten) he works good
he cooks, he saves his money, so its not like hes ruined his life material wise. its
his body, hes just tearing it up, and its hard for me because I see it all the time
where I work.

Yes, Moderation is better then bingeing, <~Ive seen Pts come in and they stopped
breathing, their heart couldnt take it, their body gave in to it.

one of my best friends fathers choked on his vomit after drinking all night.

it is very sad.

Life / Alcohol problems of Polish people [141]


I used to drink every day of the week, then stopped. havent done it since, I had no
symptoms of wanting it again, even on the days that I didnt drink, no shakes, no
nothing, my dad drank, mom drank, my mom was alcoholic, but, once someone told
my dad, well stop drinking or you will have another stroke, he did. same with smoking

my mom, she could drink every day, then stop for a week, then drink two days, stop
drink again, then go a month without it, but she would get so belligerent when she
did drink, my dad was quite, he would just sit and drink, no loudness, no anger, just
worked in the garage, but he drank like my brother as he was younger, and many
nights come home penniless.

my whole family minus my sister, <~she drank too, but moderately, then once in while.
so , you see, there was plenty to blame it on, but, the real blame is within the person!

I dont drink, maybe once every six months, one small drink, then I am done, it dont
make me want it more, when I was out Partying when I was in my 20's yes, it was the
cool thing to do. but never had any shakes, and I see plenty of women who are
alcoholics come thru my hospital, yes, they say proof that it is a gene, but
what did they blame it on back when the cavemen were here? after all, the cavemen
didnt drink, but yet, they are part of our history if we want to use genes?

Maybe they smoked dinosaur poop! lol that is why we are all messed up.


yes, I drank, I went out to bars, nightly, and no, didnt do it to me, so this theory
might be right in some ways, but, I dont buy it.

science has been proven wrong before many times, this is a temp fix till they find the
real truth, but I am living proof that the chemical described is not the reason, least
my opinion , and I am sure there are many more like me.

put it this way, with the money I spent in bars, I should own one.
I dont doubt, that chemical is not produced, but I dont believe in that gene theory
at all.

Ps, I started going to bars to meet guys when I was young, I hated beer, and it took
me a long time to actually choke down mixed drinks when I started trying them.

like I said, cavemen didnt drink, Hey, who knows when the first alcohol beverage was
created??

Is alcoholism inherited?

Research shows that the risk for developing alcoholism does indeed run in families. The genes a person inherits partially explain this pattern, but lifestyle is also a factor. Currently, researchers are working to discover the actual genes that put people at risk for alcoholism. Your friends, the amount of stress in your life, and how readily available alcohol is also are factors that may increase your risk for alcoholism.

But remember: Risk is not destiny. Just because alcoholism tends to run in families doesn't mean that a child of an alcoholic parent will automatically become an alcoholic too. Some people develop alcoholism even though no one in their family has a drinking problem. By the same token, not all children of alcoholic families get into trouble with alcohol. Knowing you are at risk is important, though, because then you can take steps to protect yourself from developing problems with alcohol. (See also "Publications," A Family History of Alcoholism - Are You at Risk?; Alcohol Alert No. 18: The Genetics of Alcoholism.)

All of the above, contradict each other.

The genes a person inherits partially explain this pattern, but lifestyle is also a factor.

then it says BUT:

Risk is not destiny. Just because alcoholism tends to run in families doesn't mean that a child of an alcoholic parent will automatically become an alcoholic too. Some people develop alcoholism even though no one in their family has a drinking problem

Sorry, but Again, I say, science can be wrong, "WHICH GENE?"

I do believe it is a disease. but not a gene.
Nor will I buy that story ever.

but, I do Question Science when they will find the gene that makes us smoke
cigerettes also. I will definately give up on emm then.

Love / Polish Girls vs Russian Girls [813]


now why would you ask a stupid question like that, when you chose a name that
(donkeys penis) is surely saying you have some really strange fantasies!