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I want to move to Poland (but of course we need to find a good job)


edgar
6 Nov 2006 #1
My name is Edgar, I'm 27, married to a beatiful polish girl. I've got a degree in economics and business managment. Speak, read and write english, native spanish speaker and doing good progress in polish. We live in London but really looking forward to move to Poland as close to Oswiecim as possible, but of course need to find a good job, so if anyone knows whats the best thing to do i'm open to ideas and i would really appreciate. txs. My email: slaugther@hotmail.
hello
6 Nov 2006 #2
Did you talk about your wife about it? I'm sure she knows the Polish reality a little.
rafik 18 | 589
6 Nov 2006 #3
My name is Edgar, I'm 27, married to a beatiful polish girl.

with your skills you shoudn't have any problem finding a good job in Krakow(i think it's quite close to oswiecim).this is a big and fast developing city in southern poland with a great number of english,american , german and probably..spanish companies.

good luck
lef 11 | 478
6 Nov 2006 #4
with your skills you shoudn't have any problem finding a good job in Krakow

Rafik, I think you are being too presumptuous, its still very hard for a non pole to get a good full time job....poland still has a closed shop metality.
ukpolska
8 Nov 2006 #5
Lef my friend, I have been living and working in Poland in Pulawy very successfully for the past 6 years, I have 4 jobs teaching and proofreading for translation agencies. As a "non pole”, I have found that it is very easy to find work here and have never experienced a so-called "closed shop mentality", in fact quite the opposite.
davidpeake 14 | 451
8 Nov 2006 #6
I agree with ukpolska, I'm a non pole too and have had no trouble finding work
lef 11 | 478
8 Nov 2006 #7
I wasn't referring to english teaching classes..
davidpeake 14 | 451
9 Nov 2006 #8
lef, i was not referring to teaching english classes either, i have walked in off the street to a couple of different companies, and yes the language is an issue, but once they see you are skilled its no problem
krysia 23 | 3,057
10 Nov 2006 #9
You're probably good-looking and they liked your looks.
avesh
10 Nov 2006 #10
Hey Edgar,

I wish you well with moving to poland, I live in the uk, aroung Heathrow, I have a lot of polish friends and have been told that the job market is abit dry at the moment, however I think with your skills you should be able to get an above average job due to poland now being part of the EU, there are a lot of companies trying to get into the international market, their problem is the language barrier and confidence in dealing with other international companies.

We have a Sourcing company and have been dealing with many polish copmpanies recently and found it very difficult cracking into them due to the language barrier...therefore you should have no worries, just brush up on your polish.

If you still have troubles, then email me on aveshv@fsmail.net as I may have something for you to do there if you cannot find employment.

goodluck

Avesh
Arrgghh!!
15 Nov 2006 #11
Edgar,

I'm not trying to put you off too much, but WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYY?

Really, you need to consider your move here carefully!

As many as 2 million Poles have left this country in the last 2 years, partly because they can't make ends meet here and secondly because they see no future is this mess of a country. And it is a mess, even the EU authorities are appalled by the lack of progress in Poland since EU membership in May 2004.

Even though Poland has quite a lot of attactive women, it's really got to be one of the least sexy countries in the world. I'm trying to think of a less sexy place, and it's hard. Perhaps Albania or Bulgaria? Or Kazakhstan?

Both Hungary & Czech Rep are better bets if you prefer friendly more open people with a happier (and sexier) temperament. Winter here is really a misery, especially if you are from a Mediterranean climate. And the Oswiecim area is the shits. It's in the middle of nowhere. In Poland, nowhere really means NOWHERE - like on the moon! Krakow is certainly a better bet.
lef 11 | 478
15 Nov 2006 #12
I agree with arrgghh!!,

Some people still think that poland is cheap and you can buy anything for peanuts, well things have changed.. sometimes you are better off staying where you are, and enjoy what you have..(you may loose what ever you had in transactions and wrong investments)

To get returning back to poland out of your system you may need to put a polish flag outside your house, put plenty of polish photo's in your house (inlcuding that of the pope,President and Prime Minister) have bigos on the boil (enjoy the smell) tune into Radio 1 (Warsaw) on the internet and then open a bottle of vodka... you can then enjoy poland at home and start dreaming about something else!!!!!
Arrgghh!!
15 Nov 2006 #13
You got it lef!

Was just about to get my Polish flag out and put the bigos on the boil and hang it outside, but then I remembered I'm already in Poland.

Perhaps I will have that vodka after all...

(Which is exactly the reaction that all the poor miserable Polaks have, and is precisely why everyone here can't get out of the rut they've dug themselves into...)

Edgar. Think twice!
Matyjasz 2 | 1,544
16 Nov 2006 #14
How did I know that you will get along perfectly with lef, the guy that thought that Poland is a third world country, that Poles still keep their dead in homes until burial, and that English speaker can earn for the individual lessons only up to 18 zł? :) Heh, how did I know that?? :)

Oh, and he knows what he is saying, because he has been here 10 times already. Probably only stayed in Chujowa Górka, but yeah, he can say that he was 10 times in Poland. :) LOL

PS: Why the nick change? I think that we all agreed that Dumbass really suits your personality. :)
Still, at least you have some sense of humor. Welcome back.:)
lef 11 | 478
16 Nov 2006 #15
Matyjasz

I have a horrible feeling that you are dobre wujek, using the name of Matyjasz?..If you read my threads, I took back what I said about the third world country, I meant it in a different way, I can assure you in my 10 times in poland I have seen a wide variety of poland..

:)I don't want to offend any person on this forum, but the issue of changing countries is really difficult and needs to be weighed out....sometimes it can be a big mistake..

The practice of keeping a person in a private home prior to burial is still common!
Arrgghh!!
16 Nov 2006 #16
I don't want to offend any person on this forum

Let's get this straight immediately. I DO want to offend people on this forum.

It *might* shake a few of you people out of the patriotic dreamworld you live in, get you out to the real world and actually doing something to improve Poland. Very unlikely, I know. Poland's biggest problem is that nobody cares enough to get off there arses and actually do anything to make this a better country to live in.
iwona 12 | 542
16 Nov 2006 #17
how do you know about it? Do yoy think that you are a little patronising?

I have been living in UK for 4 years and each time visit Poland it is better...more smart shops and shopping centres, roads renovated all the time ( I know for money fro UE), new flats and houses modern and well designed.... So I am not so sure what is your problem.
Matyjasz 2 | 1,544
16 Nov 2006 #18
I have a horrible feeling that you are dobre wujek, using the name of Matyjasz?..If you read my threads, I took back what I said about the third world country, I meant it in a different way, I can assure you in my 10 times in poland I have seen a wide variety of poland..

I will take it as a compliment, as I really admired his knowledge and writing skills. Also I know why you could think that I'm being him. I don't usually lose my temper, but you guys really drove me mad with your comments.

The practice of keeping a person in a private home prior to burial is still common!

You see... Even now you are not giving me any chance to get calm again.
I ask you, where! Maybe in Chujowa Górka they still keep their dead in their homes untill the burial, but certainly not here in Wielkopolska. :)

. :)
iwona 12 | 542
16 Nov 2006 #19
You got it lef!

Was just about to get my Polish flag out and put the bigos on the boil and hang it outside, but then I remembered I'm already in Poland.

Perhaps I will have that vodka after all...

(Which is exactly the reaction that all the poor miserable Polaks have, and is precisely why everyone here can't get out of the rut they've dug themselves into...)


You d better go back to overcowded, overpriced ,lefty UK - go to the pub have a few cheap beers and they pick up fat, drunk , vomiting british girl.....

That is exatly opned-mined sophisitcated ant great.

And i am not poor and miserable but from your posts it is rather you.Little man with little brain.

The practice of keeping a person in a private home prior to burial

rubbish, what happened in some homes is that body is brought home before funeral. But the same happens in USA, India.... and what?
Arrgghh!!
16 Nov 2006 #20
You d better go back to overcowded, overpriced ,lefty UK - go to the pub have a few cheap beers and they pick up fat, drunk , vomiting british girl.....

No thanks. That's one of the reasons I left the UK (the fat British girls that is). The only thing worse than Polish lumpen, is British lumpen, especially British female lumpen and most of them, especially in the North & Scotland are pretty damn ugly...

The point is in the South & London you can meet girls (or boys for that matter) from all over the world. In Poland that opportunity hardly ever arises, since there are so few foreigners here.

Britain is overpriced and overcrowded too. I agree. Don't understand what you mean by 'lefty'? If you mean liberal minded, I'd have thought that a positive thing.
krysia 23 | 3,057
16 Nov 2006 #21
But the same happens in USA,

Nope. They never bring a dead body home. It's agaist the law. They stick it in a funeral home, inject juices into it, put make-up on and then off to church it goes. And after that, you follow the coffin in your nice warm car and watch it being dumped into a hole.

When I lived in a small village near Kraków, they would bring the body in the house for three days, in case it would wake up...

But now they have funeral homes in Poland.
Arrgghh!!
16 Nov 2006 #22
how do you know about it? Do yoy think that you are a little patronising?

If you think I'm being patronizing and that makes you feel better, then sure I'm being patronizing...

How do I know about how hopeless it is to get anything done in Poland?

I am in contact with idiot Polish bureaucracy on a daily basis, and am utterly sick of it. Nothing happens in this country unless it is signed in triplicate, countersigned and stamped by all and every party concerned, and then sent to another office while a 'protokol odbioru' is signed in triplicate, countersigned and stamped again, and then sent back to the first office and lost for three weeks, before being returned to you for further countersigning. The red tape just goes on forever...

Also, no-one wants to help anyone out of genuine civility in this country. There are very few active voluntary organizations here. In that respect Poland is one of the least 'civilised' countries in Europe. (It will be toppled from the crown when Romania and Bulgaria join in January).

What I don't understand is how all you Polaks put up with all this shit... Why you don't do anything about changing the system I don't understand. You should all be deeply ashamed of yourselves. (Yep, that's me being patronizing again! Great isn't it.)
lef 11 | 478
16 Nov 2006 #23
You see... Even now you are not giving me any chance to get calm again.
I ask you, where! Maybe in Chujowa Górka they still keep their dead in their homes untill the burial, but certainly not here in Wielkopolska.

I repeat Matyjasz... It is still common practice to leave the deceased body in a private house prior to burial....usually in the country, not in the city area or high rise flats..(there is nothing wrong with this practice except it is not accepted in the west for health reasons I suppose)
iwona 12 | 542
17 Nov 2006 #24
I don't believe it- for a few days in house? In summer with pls 30 degrees?

I only know that in some regions body is brought home in the morning before funeral.
lef 11 | 478
17 Nov 2006 #25
I'm not going to repeat myself.....perhaps somebody who lives in the country could confirm my claim..
Lala Lee
19 Nov 2006 #26
What I don't understand is how all you Polaks put up with all this ****... Why you don't do anything about changing the system I don't understand. You should all be deeply ashamed of yourselves.

Let me remind who was first to brought down communism in Europe. If it wasn't for Poland, Europe would still be ruled by communism, then you would really have something to complain about. So yes, I believe "we Polaks" got off our asses long enough to do something and there is alot more work to be done. Remember, Rome wasn't built in a day.

If it's that terrible for you in Poland, then just leave....no excuses.
iwona 12 | 542
20 Nov 2006 #27
I'm not going to repeat myself.....perhaps somebody who lives in the country could confirm my claim..

I think lef taht you quite often repeat some stereotypes not confirmed really.
blur13
20 Nov 2006 #28
Well I plan on getting married to my Polish girlfriend next year and we've been discussing the pro's and cons of staying in the UK / moving to Poland (Warsaw).

Here's the list we came up with:

PROs

She gets to be back with her family
Close to her friends
Speaking her own langage in her own country
The countryside and Autumn are beautiful and the air is clean
The streets are cleaner
Shops stay open later
No carpets on bathroom floors
They don't have 2 different taps for hot and cold

CONs

Finding a job, and then living on lower wages will be tough
The motorists are mental
The language barrier for me may be hard (my Polish is basic)
TV is ****

I can't think of anything else right now, but we came up with more reasons to move there than not to move there. Although her brother-in-law thinks we should stay in the UK....
Matyjasz 2 | 1,544
20 Nov 2006 #29
TV is ****

There's always cable TV. :)
iwona 12 | 542
20 Nov 2006 #30
cable-sky tv is not much different to Uk tv.
maybe less reality shows....:)


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