UK, Ireland / Polish immigrants in the UK - victims or criminals?! [243]

The Polish invasion of 2004 was the biggest mistake the British government has made in a very long time. Keeping wages down, by , siphoning money out of the UK economy back to Poland, taking jobs from hard-working working class Brits like myself, They have taken 50 % of construction jobs in my area since 2004.

History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]

everyone here in England sees Poles as Eastern Europeans. Central European is a term only used by the Guardian or left wing papers.

History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]

I have more in common with a Dutchman or an Irishman than a Pole, I see the Dutch as very culturally similar to us. You have more in common with Russia than with England or even Germany culturally.

History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]

sorry my mistake even the guardian refers to Poles as Eastern European:

Poland is now the second highest in this table (behind India) with 503,000 people. In 2004 it wasn't in the top 60.

guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/apr/29/eastern-european-immigration-uk-general-election

Russia is neither Europe nor Asia, if you exclude European Russia, then you are still pretty Eastern.

People sometimes talk about 'Russia's relations with Europe'. ie Russia is neither Europe nor Asia. Poland is in the East of Europe. stop getting so damn touchy about it.


get over it, we do the same thing in the uk

History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]


youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5He_PGomJVs

Here is zhirinovsky saying 'Russia stands between Europe and Asia'.

History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]

All these sources refer to Poland as Eastern Europe:

stockholm.sgir.eu/uploads/Paper%20Zeilinger%20SGIR%202010.pdf
timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6934213.ece
spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,759325,00.html
economist.com/node/8080744
independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/figures-show-nu mber-of-eastern-europeans-in-britain-exaggerated-432927.html

You are in Eastern Europe on the borders of Russia. they are your ethnic brethren so embrace your Slavic roots and do not be ashamed of being from Eastern Europe.

History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]


yes, and also to White Russia, which is practically Russia.

History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]

Byelorussia = White Russia, they all speak Russian there, only a minority speak the White Russian dialect. Belarus is an artificial creation only a matter of time before Russia re-unites with Belarus.

Genealogy / Polish looks? [1410]

You look Tatar.

Genealogy / Polish looks? [1410]

Handsome can still be used to refer to women, its just a bit old fashioned, but is still sometimes used in the literary sense.

History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]


get over it, everybody in England says Eastern Europe. ffs I know it causes you allot of buthurt but stop being such a douche.Bbe proud of your slavic roots, The UN sees Poland as EE ffs look it up.

History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]


who one earth said I hate Eastern Europeans? I have a great fondness and respect for Eastern European culture. spasiba

so Lvov and Brest in the 2nd Polish republic was in Central Europe lulz who ya kiddin???. no way Torvarish, No way. the Germans see you as Eastern Europe as do the the Scandinavians. get over it for gods sake.

DER SPIGEAL : isnt nicht english

spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,759325,00.html

History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]

of course it's Eastern, I have no idea why these Polaks get so wound up about it?

Life / Do you think that Polish people are rude? [951]

yes I think that many polish waitresses and bar staff and often a bit rude here in England.

Life / Do you think that Polish people are rude? [951]

no just a bit dour an miserable, in in the bars and cafe where iv'e gone.

History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]

Poland is in Eastern Europe, Russia is not in Europe or Asia

News / Should Poland leave the EU institution? [147]

what will happen to all the Poles in the UK if you leave?

News / Should Poland leave the EU institution? [147]

they will no longer have a legal right to work here and will have apply for work permits, after which only a fraction (20% at a guess) would be granted.

News / Should Poland leave the EU institution? [147]

Ironside did you name yourself after the English King Edmund Ironside?

History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]

You're in Eastern Europe, yes the central part of Eastern Europe, but not Central Europe. Everybody in the UK, Germany Norway, and Western Europe sees you as Eastern Europe, including the media here in England.

Eastern Europe...end of discussion.

History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]

Russia is not Europe, get over the fact you are in Eastern Europe.

Life / Racism in Poland - the future [441]

will people be racist to me for being English in Poland?

Life / Racism in Poland - the future [441]


I'm of English ethnicity, not WHITE English, that's a ridiculous term concocted by the government. I'm just English not White that is an American concept of race. In Poland you have ethnic Poles and ethnic Belorussians,you used to have ethnic Jews, no such thing as White Polish.

Life / Racism in Poland - the future [441]


No you don't get me, I am English.Yes that means I'm white, but I don't like the term White English, It's an absurd term, I was making a point that no one in Poland is called white Polish, if an Pakistani man was born in Poland, he would still be an Pakistani. Yet in England I am reduced to being referred to by the government and lefty media as 'white working class' No I'm English not White I just happen to be White. I think you will find that the English are not yellow or purple, we are the same colour as you Poles.

Life / Racism in Poland - the future [441]


I am not a Jew, I don't know what you have against them? I'm an English lad who was brought up Church of England .

And if you look at the Polish pre war census you will see they are defined as an ethnicity, same applies to the Soviet Union/Russia where they are still counted as an ethnic group.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Pasternak
look at Pasternak's ethnicity in the right hand corner.

Life / Racism in Poland - the future [441]

@gumishu

The English are an ethnic group

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_people
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Canadian

The Dutch for instance have no problem saying ethnic Dutch ( who have a similar similar demographic in terms of modern immigrant communities to us), why is it so politicly incorrect to say ethnic English? I am not merely white , I am ethnic English, simple as.

Dutch census: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Netherlands#Recent_developments

causes.com/causes/189620-english-ethnicity-must-be-includched-as-an-option-on-the-2012-uk-census

Life / Racism in Poland - the future [441]


I couldn't care less about Israel, the western media are obsessed with them. There are far worse conflicts in the world Yemen, Congo, Darfur, Somalia, Sri lanka, Kurdistan that nobody seems to give two hoots about. The Turks (who are members of Nato) are bombing the cr*p out of the Kurds and the world turns a blind eye and they have the audacity to criticize the Israelis.

What Russia does In Chechnia or Dagestan is just as bad yet gets a fraction of the coverage.

Life / Racism in Poland - the future [441]


It is really cool and progressive to help encourage and fund native cultures even here in Britain such as the Welsh or Cornish, yet being proud of native English culture makes you a racist.

And no the whole England was always a nation of immigrants crap is a modern left wing piece of historical revisionism. The same can be said for example of Poland in that it was originally inhabited by Germanic,Celtic and Baltic peoples and the Slavs only came in the Dark ages and absorbed their predecessors, afterwards in turn being conquered themselves briefly by the Mongols, influxes of Tatars all of which would by the late middle ages have coalesced or been assimilated into a Polish ethnicity But no one will deny a Pole his right to be an ethnic Pole.

The native English are essentially the Anglo Saxons + Allot of Anglized Celts + Anglised , assimilated Danish and Norwegian Vikings + Pre celtic peoples who were simply assimilated by the Celts. By 1066 an English identity was already there. I am not an Anglo- Saxon as my mother is from West Devon and is probably an Anglicised Celt as are meant other people. The Normans did NOT regard themselves as ethnic English and took them about 300-350 years to embrace English identity, but also had a very limited genetic impact as they were no more than a small ruling elite.

I respect the right of to be of the Cornish to be called ethnic Cornish, and yet I chided for being proud of being English.

Life / Racism in Poland - the future [441]


The native English are essentially the Anglo Saxons + Allot of Anglized Celts + Anglised , assimilated Danish and Norwegian Vikings + Pre celtic peoples who were simply assimilated by the Celts. By 1066 an English identity was already there.The Normans did NOT regard themselves as ethnic English and took them about 300-350 years to embrace English identity, by witch time the Viking decendents of Yorkshire, the celts of Cumbria and Devon had all coallced into a responsibly English ethnicty as opposed to Anglo saxon.


London for instance has completely lost it's native cockney English identity, in England, the 'multiculturalism' we have been fore fed is apparently the only thing we are aloud to be proud of, according Red Ken Livingstone. It is racist to fly a St Georges cross, it is racist to have a parade for st georges day, yet a festival for Ramadan is not only encouraged but funded by the tax payer. I thank god Am not from London, but my grandfather is and it brought a tear to his eye to sea what it has become after visiting, it is not just London but other major cities like Birmingham and Bradford. We bend over backwards to accommodate the needs and whims of people from India,Pakistan,Africa ( put up council signs in their lanaguge,, fund their festivals, even have ethnic minotiy employemnt quotas, they are scared to offend Muslims and bend over backwards to please their every demand even install third world type toilets for them. Yet native english culture is deemed racist.

Here English people get discriminated against for not being 'ethnic' enough.

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-473249/English-girl-barred-Government-job--wrong-kind-white.html

The welsh have Welsh cultural prohects funded by the tax payer, you see flags flying everywhere in wales, no so in England.

The English are an ethnic group like the Kurds and the Appache Indians and the Serbs and the Poles or any other.

Life / Racism in Poland - the future [441]


read the whole paragagh :'(Anglo Saxons) + Allot of Anglized Celts + Anglised , assimilated Danish and Norwegian Vikings + Pre celtic people not just anghlo saxons. what I said is the peoples of the Kingdom of England had coalesed by the time of the Norman invasion into an regocnaiblly English not merely Anglo Saxon identity.

Noone in Tudor times called themslves called thelsves Ango-saxon, they were English of English culture of English identity. It wasn't until 19th centaury romanticism that some scholars beagn to take in interst in the anglo saxon elemnt.

In Russia you can be an ethnic Tatar and still be civicly and culturally assimilated into Russian culture but will not be an ethnic Russian.

In Poland you can be civicly Polish and still ethnically Belorussian.

In germany You can be civcly Turkish but will never be ethnically German.

I'm guessing you are an assimilated 2nd generation Pole.

I am English of English Ethnicity.


they are not native, they are assimilated into english identity culture, civicly English, the English have a right to be an ethnic group as do any other.