Chicago Pollock
16 Apr 2010
Life / Do Russians and Poles get along? [53]
Which chick is the heavy weight, the Pole or the Russian?
Which chick is the heavy weight, the Pole or the Russian?
Chicago Pollock
18 Apr 2010
News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]
Why didn't Germany invade Switzerland in World War II?
Every able bodied man in Switzerland is in the reserve military, has a rifle and is trained to use it.
This is what Poland needs to do. Every able bodied man needs to have a rifle and be trained to use it. Citizen armies are much better than professional armies in a democracy. Poland can't depend on NATO or the United States. If Poland would have done this 200 years ago there wouldn't have been any partition. You're 200 years late, but it's not too late.
Why didn't Germany invade Switzerland in World War II?
Every able bodied man in Switzerland is in the reserve military, has a rifle and is trained to use it.
This is what Poland needs to do. Every able bodied man needs to have a rifle and be trained to use it. Citizen armies are much better than professional armies in a democracy. Poland can't depend on NATO or the United States. If Poland would have done this 200 years ago there wouldn't have been any partition. You're 200 years late, but it's not too late.
Chicago Pollock
18 Apr 2010
News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]
Bratwurst Boy, Germany had plans to invade Switzerland but Hitler was dissuaded when the Swiss made no bones about resisting Nazi war machine. They (the Swiss) took about about a dozen German fighter craft right quick. Germany could have taken major Swiss cities but countyside would have remained Swiss (due to reserve army) Ageements you speak of occurred later.
Convex, that explains Polish Partition And why Poles don't defend themselves...Poles don't trust Poles. That's why i wouldn't live there. They've had a bloody history, ripe for the picking.
Bratwurst Boy, Germany had plans to invade Switzerland but Hitler was dissuaded when the Swiss made no bones about resisting Nazi war machine. They (the Swiss) took about about a dozen German fighter craft right quick. Germany could have taken major Swiss cities but countyside would have remained Swiss (due to reserve army) Ageements you speak of occurred later.
Convex, that explains Polish Partition And why Poles don't defend themselves...Poles don't trust Poles. That's why i wouldn't live there. They've had a bloody history, ripe for the picking.
Chicago Pollock
18 Apr 2010
News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]
Here's another opinion:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland_during_the_World_Wars
Here's another opinion:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland_during_the_World_Wars
Chicago Pollock
18 Apr 2010
News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]
Hmmm, you must have overlooked this:
II
Switzerland was surrounded by territory controlled by the Axis Powers from 1940 to 1944.
At the outbreak of World War II in 1939, Switzerland immediately began to mobilize for a possible invasion. The entire country was fully mobilized in only three days. The Swiss government began to fortify positions throughout the country. The total strength of the army and militias grew to over 500,000.
In the course of the war, detailed invasion plans were drawn up by the German military command,[7] such as Operation Tannenbaum, but Switzerland was never attacked. Switzerland was able to remain independent through a combination of economic concessions to Germany, military deterrence and good fortune as larger events during the war delayed an invasion. Attempts by Switzerland's small Nazi party to effect an Anschluss with Germany failed miserably, largely as a result of Switzerland's multicultural heritage, strong sense of national identity, and long tradition of direct democracy and civil liberties. The Swiss press vigorously criticized the Third Reich, often infuriating its leadership. Under General Henri Guisan, a massive mobilization of militia forces was ordered. The Swiss military strategy was changed from one of static defense at the borders, to a strategy of organized long-term attrition and withdrawal to strong, well-stockpiled positions high in the Alps known as the Réduit. This controversial strategy was essentially one of deterrence. The idea was to make clear to the Third Reich that the cost of an invasion would be very high. During an invasion, the Swiss Army would cede control of the economic heartland and population centers, but retain control of crucial rail links and passes in the Réduit. Switzerland was an important base for espionage by both sides in the conflict and often mediated communications between the Axis and Allied powers by serving as a protecting power. Despite public and political pressure some higher ranking officers within the Swiss Army were sympathetic towards the Nazis, notably Colonel Arthur Fonjallaz and Colonel Eugen Bircher, who led the Schweizerischer Vaterländischer Verband.
Portrait of Henri Guisan on a commemorative coin
Nazi Germany repeatedly violated Swiss airspace. During the Invasion of France, German aircraft violated Swiss airspace no fewer than 197 times.[8] In several air incidents, the Swiss (using 10 Bf-109 D, 80 Bf-109 E fighters bought from Germany and some Morane-Saulnier M.S.406s built under license in Switzerland), shot down 11 Luftwaffe planes between 10 May 1940 and 17 June 1940.[8] Germany protested diplomatically on 5 June 1940, and with a second note on 19 June 1940 which contained clear threats. Hitler was especially furious when he saw that German equipment was shooting down German pilots. He said they would respond "in another manner".[8] On 20 June 1940, the Swiss air force was ordered to stop intercepting planes violating Swiss airspace. Swiss fighters began to instead force intruding aircraft to land at Swiss airfields. Anti-aircraft units still operated. Later, Hitler unsuccessfully sent saboteurs to destroy airfields.[9]
Hmmm, you must have overlooked this:
II
Switzerland was surrounded by territory controlled by the Axis Powers from 1940 to 1944.
At the outbreak of World War II in 1939, Switzerland immediately began to mobilize for a possible invasion. The entire country was fully mobilized in only three days. The Swiss government began to fortify positions throughout the country. The total strength of the army and militias grew to over 500,000.
In the course of the war, detailed invasion plans were drawn up by the German military command,[7] such as Operation Tannenbaum, but Switzerland was never attacked. Switzerland was able to remain independent through a combination of economic concessions to Germany, military deterrence and good fortune as larger events during the war delayed an invasion. Attempts by Switzerland's small Nazi party to effect an Anschluss with Germany failed miserably, largely as a result of Switzerland's multicultural heritage, strong sense of national identity, and long tradition of direct democracy and civil liberties. The Swiss press vigorously criticized the Third Reich, often infuriating its leadership. Under General Henri Guisan, a massive mobilization of militia forces was ordered. The Swiss military strategy was changed from one of static defense at the borders, to a strategy of organized long-term attrition and withdrawal to strong, well-stockpiled positions high in the Alps known as the Réduit. This controversial strategy was essentially one of deterrence. The idea was to make clear to the Third Reich that the cost of an invasion would be very high. During an invasion, the Swiss Army would cede control of the economic heartland and population centers, but retain control of crucial rail links and passes in the Réduit. Switzerland was an important base for espionage by both sides in the conflict and often mediated communications between the Axis and Allied powers by serving as a protecting power. Despite public and political pressure some higher ranking officers within the Swiss Army were sympathetic towards the Nazis, notably Colonel Arthur Fonjallaz and Colonel Eugen Bircher, who led the Schweizerischer Vaterländischer Verband.
Portrait of Henri Guisan on a commemorative coin
Nazi Germany repeatedly violated Swiss airspace. During the Invasion of France, German aircraft violated Swiss airspace no fewer than 197 times.[8] In several air incidents, the Swiss (using 10 Bf-109 D, 80 Bf-109 E fighters bought from Germany and some Morane-Saulnier M.S.406s built under license in Switzerland), shot down 11 Luftwaffe planes between 10 May 1940 and 17 June 1940.[8] Germany protested diplomatically on 5 June 1940, and with a second note on 19 June 1940 which contained clear threats. Hitler was especially furious when he saw that German equipment was shooting down German pilots. He said they would respond "in another manner".[8] On 20 June 1940, the Swiss air force was ordered to stop intercepting planes violating Swiss airspace. Swiss fighters began to instead force intruding aircraft to land at Swiss airfields. Anti-aircraft units still operated. Later, Hitler unsuccessfully sent saboteurs to destroy airfields.[9]
Chicago Pollock
18 Apr 2010
News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]
If it weren't for Swiss rifles, Switzerland would have become another Austria.
Germany would have sustained heavy casualties with Swiss invasion.
Historical fact, the Swiss stood up the German war machine and Germany tried to save face with those agreements.
If it weren't for Swiss rifles, Switzerland would have become another Austria.
Germany would have sustained heavy casualties with Swiss invasion.
Historical fact, the Swiss stood up the German war machine and Germany tried to save face with those agreements.
Chicago Pollock
19 Apr 2010
News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]
See this map of WWII Europe:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Second_world_war_europe_1941-1942_map_en.png
There's a big hole in the middle of the Axis Powers. It was Switzerland. Strategically that hole wasn't in the interests of the Axis Powers.
German agreements with Switzerland were a face saving smokescreen.
See this map of WWII Europe:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Second_world_war_europe_1941-1942_map_en.png
There's a big hole in the middle of the Axis Powers. It was Switzerland. Strategically that hole wasn't in the interests of the Axis Powers.
German agreements with Switzerland were a face saving smokescreen.
Chicago Pollock
19 Apr 2010
News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]
"The infrastructure in Poland is terrible, there just isn't any way to get around that. Parts are getting better (IC rail travel, highways), parts seem to be getting worse (B roads, city roads)."
That's one way to get an infrastructure, develop your National Guard as engineering units. Have them start rebuilding your roads.
"The infrastructure in Poland is terrible, there just isn't any way to get around that. Parts are getting better (IC rail travel, highways), parts seem to be getting worse (B roads, city roads)."
That's one way to get an infrastructure, develop your National Guard as engineering units. Have them start rebuilding your roads.
Chicago Pollock
19 Apr 2010
Chicago Pollock
19 Apr 2010
News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]
Switzerland avoided two world wars because they didn't lay down and say "gee, which boxcar is for me", or "we're going to which gulag?" No they threatened to fight back.
Switzerland avoided two world wars because they didn't lay down and say "gee, which boxcar is for me", or "we're going to which gulag?" No they threatened to fight back.
Chicago Pollock
19 Apr 2010
News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]
Swedes and Spanish had fascist leadership. Quisling and Franco. Switzerland was a democracy and publicly opposed Germany. What was Poland, a democracy? In any event they opposed Hitler. If you're going to publicly oppose the guy you have to be prepared to fight.
Swedes and Spanish had fascist leadership. Quisling and Franco. Switzerland was a democracy and publicly opposed Germany. What was Poland, a democracy? In any event they opposed Hitler. If you're going to publicly oppose the guy you have to be prepared to fight.
Chicago Pollock
19 Apr 2010
News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]
"And nobody else did? ;)"
That's a broad question, you can write a book on every individual country's response to WWII. Poland has sustained too many slaughters in it's history. They need to learn how to avoid 'em. First thing you have to do is define the problem, once you do that the solution becomes a lot clearer.
"Poles don't trust Poles". Is a good start and how do you build trust? Give the lowliest peasant a rifle and tell him he's responsible if Poland gets invaded.
"gorliwość", is everything. That's what a pro army doesn't have.
"And nobody else did? ;)"
That's a broad question, you can write a book on every individual country's response to WWII. Poland has sustained too many slaughters in it's history. They need to learn how to avoid 'em. First thing you have to do is define the problem, once you do that the solution becomes a lot clearer.
"Poles don't trust Poles". Is a good start and how do you build trust? Give the lowliest peasant a rifle and tell him he's responsible if Poland gets invaded.
"gorliwość", is everything. That's what a pro army doesn't have.
Chicago Pollock
20 Apr 2010
History / The great mistakes of Poland's history? [216]
The Past is the past, modern day Poland can't change it. Now that you have your country how do you plan to hold it?????????
The Past is the past, modern day Poland can't change it. Now that you have your country how do you plan to hold it?????????
Chicago Pollock
20 Apr 2010
News / Do Poles in Poland really feel betrayed because there won't be any US Shield? [288]
Kasynski (sp?) requested missile system from Bush. Now that he's dead no need for missile system.
Kasynski (sp?) requested missile system from Bush. Now that he's dead no need for missile system.
Chicago Pollock
20 Apr 2010
News / Do Poles in Poland really feel betrayed because there won't be any US Shield? [288]
The Kaczynski's were Bush puppets.
If his death wasn't an accident (I don't know if it was or not) that's probably why he died.
The Kaczynski's were Bush puppets.
If his death wasn't an accident (I don't know if it was or not) that's probably why he died.
Chicago Pollock
22 Apr 2010
News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]
If you believe this than there is no hope.
Avoid alliances with other countries and look to yourselves. Instead of fielding a professional army, construct Reserve National Guard Units in every province and county. Put most if not all 18-26 yr. olds under arms (rifles will do). Train the troops for the day if and when you are invaded by a foreign power. Supply your troops with small arms designed and constructed in Poland (rifles are easy to manufacture). Make most of your National Guard Engineering Units so that they can act in National Emergencies and also slowly rebuild your infrastructure. Engage the lowest elements of your society. Pull together.
The performance of the Polish army in any future conflict will depend on one thing only.
To what extent they are betrayed.
To what extent they are betrayed.
If you believe this than there is no hope.
Avoid alliances with other countries and look to yourselves. Instead of fielding a professional army, construct Reserve National Guard Units in every province and county. Put most if not all 18-26 yr. olds under arms (rifles will do). Train the troops for the day if and when you are invaded by a foreign power. Supply your troops with small arms designed and constructed in Poland (rifles are easy to manufacture). Make most of your National Guard Engineering Units so that they can act in National Emergencies and also slowly rebuild your infrastructure. Engage the lowest elements of your society. Pull together.
Chicago Pollock
22 Apr 2010
News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]
Originally the National Guard and US Coast Guard were volunteer. No pay. It's what is called good citizenship. Poland should start demanding more of its citizens. You're building a nation.
Originally the National Guard and US Coast Guard were volunteer. No pay. It's what is called good citizenship. Poland should start demanding more of its citizens. You're building a nation.
Chicago Pollock
1 May 2010
Genealogy / The last name is Krzywoszyja. Help? Am I Polish? [30]
Racist is an often misused term on this board. Racist means that a person believes that he or she is superior to another solely due to their race. A Caucasian cannot be racist towards another Caucasian.
Racist is an often misused term on this board. Racist means that a person believes that he or she is superior to another solely due to their race. A Caucasian cannot be racist towards another Caucasian.
Chicago Pollock
2 May 2010
Love / Are the Polish the most suspicious people in Europe? [73]
Yes, that's been my experience. Poles don't trust anyone. Maybe has to do with 200 years of occupation in their own country by foreign powers.
Yes, that's been my experience. Poles don't trust anyone. Maybe has to do with 200 years of occupation in their own country by foreign powers.
Chicago Pollock
2 May 2010
Love / Are the Polish the most suspicious people in Europe? [73]
Havok, that's the problem with Polish People. Maybe that's why they've been invaded and occupied for the past two hundred years. No trust, no political consensus. You know that old adage, "Divide and conquer".
Havok, that's the problem with Polish People. Maybe that's why they've been invaded and occupied for the past two hundred years. No trust, no political consensus. You know that old adage, "Divide and conquer".
Chicago Pollock
2 May 2010
Love / Are the Polish the most suspicious people in Europe? [73]
I was raised in Little Poland Chicago. My folks were suspicious of everybody including the neighbors. I finally went away to school in bumf*ck, USA and found the American people open and candid. They trust everybody. I had to learn to not be sooooo suspicious (ya know imagination can get away from a guy). But the answer is somewhere in the middle. Some suspicion is okay, just don't over do it.
Being Spanish, he probably was. He didn't stand a chance with that super sleuth Polish Chick.
I was raised in Little Poland Chicago. My folks were suspicious of everybody including the neighbors. I finally went away to school in bumf*ck, USA and found the American people open and candid. They trust everybody. I had to learn to not be sooooo suspicious (ya know imagination can get away from a guy). But the answer is somewhere in the middle. Some suspicion is okay, just don't over do it.
Our friend here form bumblefack Spain is upset because his polish girlfriend dumped his as$ on suspicion of him cheating on her.
Being Spanish, he probably was. He didn't stand a chance with that super sleuth Polish Chick.
Chicago Pollock
15 May 2010
Love / Are Polish still very traditional when it comes to relationships? [31]
Izvirai
Polish families have a lot of say so in everyday affairs. They're a PITA (painintheass). Steer clear and you'll be fine.
that's a Roman Catholic thingy. It's salvation through faith and charity. Unfortunately the Protestant Reformation didn't make it to Poland.
Marriage is a civil contract. I know this is going to be hard for modern women to swallow but because women are the child bearers they are at a disadvantage and need to be protected through contract law. the marriage contract was originally designed to keep the guy from "buggering off" after having a slew of kids and leaving the burden of family support to the local community. It's in your favor, ladies.
Nonsense, of course they can. think commitment. Next time get a marriage contract, FROM THE GOVERNMENT.
Complete and utter nonsense. Guys are interested in good cooking and sex. It's the women who are interested in how much a guy makes. that's a women thingy. That's why so many successful women don't get married, they constantly compare their earnings with their husbands (Poor b*stards, don't have a chance).
Izvirai
and whilst it doesn't bother him at all, he did say that its something his family will probably strongly disapprove of once they know how serious our relationship is and that we are planning a future together
Polish families have a lot of say so in everyday affairs. They're a PITA (painintheass). Steer clear and you'll be fine.
Salvation through suffering,
that's a Roman Catholic thingy. It's salvation through faith and charity. Unfortunately the Protestant Reformation didn't make it to Poland.
I do understand why some women get all emotional and fluffy when you declare your love to her infront of the community though. It means you're showing the whole world you're her guy and her guy alone. I get that. But with all these rules and financial agreements it feels like a form of control to me. Perhaps even a sign of distrust? The most important thing to me is equality, and I really can't see how a man and a woman are equals within the institute that's called marriage.
Marriage is a civil contract. I know this is going to be hard for modern women to swallow but because women are the child bearers they are at a disadvantage and need to be protected through contract law. the marriage contract was originally designed to keep the guy from "buggering off" after having a slew of kids and leaving the burden of family support to the local community. It's in your favor, ladies.
says that you'll love her forever. Noone can promise this.
Nonsense, of course they can. think commitment. Next time get a marriage contract, FROM THE GOVERNMENT.
that is true, but I have noticed that good men are not comfortable when their gf or wife makes more money than they do. The users, yes, they have no problem with it, but most men prefer to be the main bread winners.
Complete and utter nonsense. Guys are interested in good cooking and sex. It's the women who are interested in how much a guy makes. that's a women thingy. That's why so many successful women don't get married, they constantly compare their earnings with their husbands (Poor b*stards, don't have a chance).
Chicago Pollock
17 May 2010
News / "POLISH death camps" term used by "Parade Magazine" Anti-Polish Bigots [249]
there is no anti Polish bigotry in the United States. Most Americans don't know what a Pole is other than something to hang a flag on. Once Poles learn to speak fluent English, they melt into the general population (Nobody ever asks me what nationality my last name is, never).
The only time that a Pole with confront Polish jokes is from other Poles. There are 10 million Poles living in the US of A and if the society was discriminatory, they would have left a long time ago.
there is no anti Polish bigotry in the United States. Most Americans don't know what a Pole is other than something to hang a flag on. Once Poles learn to speak fluent English, they melt into the general population (Nobody ever asks me what nationality my last name is, never).
The only time that a Pole with confront Polish jokes is from other Poles. There are 10 million Poles living in the US of A and if the society was discriminatory, they would have left a long time ago.
Chicago Pollock
9 Jun 2010
History / Why Poles love Russia [105]
skysoulmate
Question: is Norweigan sentence structure the same as English??
skysoulmate
Translation...
Sasha said: Really... I always thought the Notdic folks prefered neutrality.
Sasha said: Really... I always thought the Notdic folks prefered neutrality.
Question: is Norweigan sentence structure the same as English??
Chicago Pollock
14 Jun 2010
Language / Is the term 'Polak' derogatory?? [254]
ShortHairThug,
Nope. In Chicago where I grew up, People of Polish origin either referred to themselves as Polocks, pollacks, however you want to spell it, or Polish. The term Pole was never used. The only derogatory term for Polish people that I know of was "DP" short for displaced person. In other words DP would stand for someone just off the boat.
Polish jokes come from established Polish people making fun of Polish people just "off the boat". Making fun of their ignorance about the "New World". Poles poking fun at other Poles. Polish people do have a sense of humor, though a bit different than the English or American. Other ethnic groups did the same thing.
Nigger is a low class black and is meant to be derogatory. Pollack or Polak is not a derogatory term.
ShortHairThug,
When spoken by anyone from North America in fact it its ALWAYS derogatory, it was spread by the American Jew who propagated Polish Jokes eventually becoming synonymous with a word "Stupid" as in "You’re such a Polak."
Nope. In Chicago where I grew up, People of Polish origin either referred to themselves as Polocks, pollacks, however you want to spell it, or Polish. The term Pole was never used. The only derogatory term for Polish people that I know of was "DP" short for displaced person. In other words DP would stand for someone just off the boat.
Polish jokes come from established Polish people making fun of Polish people just "off the boat". Making fun of their ignorance about the "New World". Poles poking fun at other Poles. Polish people do have a sense of humor, though a bit different than the English or American. Other ethnic groups did the same thing.
Nigger is a low class black and is meant to be derogatory. Pollack or Polak is not a derogatory term.
Chicago Pollock
14 Jun 2010
Language / Is the term 'Polak' derogatory?? [254]
convex
True, Americans are ambivalent about Poles. They're invisible. Most Americans couldn't find Poland on the World Map.
convex
I was under the impression that most Americans really don't care enough about Poles or Poland to actually use a slur against them.
True, Americans are ambivalent about Poles. They're invisible. Most Americans couldn't find Poland on the World Map.
Chicago Pollock
15 Jun 2010
History / Poles as Iroquois of Europe [42]
The Iroquois developed a confederation of six tribes that were very powerful. The confederation was known for it's democratic institutions. The Iroquois were noted as fierce warriors but cannibalistic The would eat the body parts of the defeated Indian warriors. They'd make a feast out of it. I don't quite understand what Bismarck meant when comparing the Polish to the Iroquois.
The Iroquois developed a confederation of six tribes that were very powerful. The confederation was known for it's democratic institutions. The Iroquois were noted as fierce warriors but cannibalistic The would eat the body parts of the defeated Indian warriors. They'd make a feast out of it. I don't quite understand what Bismarck meant when comparing the Polish to the Iroquois.
Chicago Pollock
3 Jul 2010
History / Polish historical myths - to break or not to break them? [257]
There are Blacks in Chicago with POLISH last names. Those Polish Buggers get around.
There are Blacks in Chicago with POLISH last names. Those Polish Buggers get around.
Chicago Pollock
5 Jul 2010
Language / Do Poles prefer US American or UK English language? [147]
It's not ghetto speech as much it is a separate American English dialect from the region of the South where they originally came from. America has different accents but dialects are rare, i can only think of three: Appalachia, South Louisiana Cajun and Southern Black. There may be more that I don't know of.
I've found many Poles really freaked out by black gehtto speech. Anybody on PF agree?
never heard of that. You are making things up again
It's not ghetto speech as much it is a separate American English dialect from the region of the South where they originally came from. America has different accents but dialects are rare, i can only think of three: Appalachia, South Louisiana Cajun and Southern Black. There may be more that I don't know of.
Chicago Pollock
7 Jul 2010
USA, Canada / To move back to Poland from the USA or not to move back....that is the question [119]
Move to Poland, if you don't you'll always regret it. If it works out great, if it doesn't you'll learn to appreciate where you're from. You could always go back. Just expect to spend a bit of cash. Every time I've moved it cost me money. If you can afford it, I'd keep my house in the States and wait to see if a permanent move to Poland is what you really want.
Move to Poland, if you don't you'll always regret it. If it works out great, if it doesn't you'll learn to appreciate where you're from. You could always go back. Just expect to spend a bit of cash. Every time I've moved it cost me money. If you can afford it, I'd keep my house in the States and wait to see if a permanent move to Poland is what you really want.