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Posts by Havok  

Joined: 12 Mar 2010 / Male ♂
Last Post: 20 Dec 2011
Threads: Total: 10 / Live: 0 / Archived: 10
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From: Houston, TX
Speaks Polish?: yes, somewhat
Interests: vary

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Havok   
15 Mar 2010
Life / 3 reasons why you hate Poland. [1049]

- close-mindedness
- general rudeness (service)
- vicious jealousy for no reason.

other than that i like Poland. lol
Havok   
26 Apr 2010
Life / Smoking vs. Grilling on Balconies / High Rises in Poland [66]

Being from America, I love to grill - and it is absolutely cool to do it on a balcony over there.

First of all the multi-building apartment complexes are constructed differently here.
Most I’ve seen have only 2 floors, and usually there are places set up for that purpose outside. You should know that.
Also, I believe you would look pretty silly if you tried to grill on your balcony at some high-rise building, let's say in NYC. Anyway, I’m sure you would have to ask your landlord if they allow for that anyway, and i'm sure most would say NO... LMAO. Have you ever considered that grilling in your apartment could be considered as a fire hazard?
Havok   
26 Apr 2010
Life / Smoking vs. Grilling on Balconies / High Rises in Poland [66]

Have you considered investing in a modern piece of technology called a window?

Normal apartment complexes do not allow for grilling on the balcony. It's not about the smell, it's a fire hazard lol. No one in the right mind would allow you to grill on the balcony here. ( in the U.S) they would call the police on you.
Havok   
27 Apr 2010
Life / Smoking vs. Grilling on Balconies / High Rises in Poland [66]

and also lived in several flats (apartments

man, they won't let you have an open fire on the balcony of an apartment. Smoking a cigarette is a different story, but a "bonfire"? Come on, who would let you do that here?
Havok   
28 Apr 2010
Life / How would you describe the Polish sense of humour? [66]

Why do you think Family guy it's perverted? You know what, I thick it's very funny you think this way. : D

and I thin :P

Considering the intent ... sort of funny.
In my opinion Polish jokes are very inconsiderate, rude and personal. “Getting even with someone” is to be considered a very funny thing especially in the punch line.

Nevertheless being aware of how the other nationalities perceive funny, quite or polite can be quite useful.

Let me share a story with you. This happened a few years back.

Young and attractive Polish Business woman was invited to attend a business meetings here. One of the American VPs decided to complement the lady about her attire so he said to her: Nice to meet you, you look very nice today, may I buy a drink? Let’s talk business :)

What happened next?

She flipped and essentially called him a pervert… he just assumed she was a psycho.

Unfortunately she didn't get to close this deal that would truly benefit her company. As far as I know she was fired for that.
Havok   
29 Apr 2010
Life / How would you describe the Polish sense of humour? [66]

but you need to know the common polish stereotypes

I got it. It sounds very different when you say it in English.

Sometimes it feels like I have a split personality. I'm totally different person when I think English.
I have to force myself to think Polish to be able to get Polish jokes. It's such a weird feeling.
My transition from Polish to English was very drastic. Basically, I woke up one morning and started to attend an American middle school. Everything I’ve learned in Poland felt no longer applicable and obsolete. I guess this is the reason why I hang around PF, to fill this gap somehow.
Havok   
29 Apr 2010
Love / How to show a polish Guy I like him [56]

Guys like sex, food, entertainment and most of us are very competitive… and this is what you got to work with. very basic. If you think there is more you're wasting your valuable time.

We talk to girls mostly when we're horny and hoping to get some.

Just find out what he likes to do for fun and do it with him, he's going to get horny at one point... I'm pretty sure he'll start talking to you a lot more.

Don't give him cookies right away...

overall hot girls have it easy, others have to use their brains.
Havok   
29 Apr 2010
News / RUSSIA TO MAKE PUBLIC THE KATYN FILES... [274]

I read to day that the Russian president has ordered that all the files relating to the killing of some 2200 Polish officers in the forests of Katyn be made public....

How can be the records made public if NO ONE was recording who was shot over there.
You study history, but have no clue…

My grandpa was in Wehrmacht, spent 2 years in Russian POW camp. He told me that the only people who could write were high ranking officials. There was no official written record of him being there ever produced.

The Russian guy in charge of the camp could only count to 5. My grandpa escaped with 4 other guys and Russians haven't noticed it for days.

You will never know who was shot there for sure.
Havok   
29 Apr 2010
News / RUSSIA TO MAKE PUBLIC THE KATYN FILES... [274]

Brat,

Reason why you hear more about German war crimes is because Germans were better educated and sophisticated in documenting everything. It’s a known fact. On the other hand Russian literacy rate before WWII was less than 30%. As a matter of fact this number can not be verified because record keeping in Russia was atrocious before WWII.
Havok   
30 Apr 2010
News / RUSSIA TO MAKE PUBLIC THE KATYN FILES... [274]

Russia is/was very barbaric nation. Way more vicious than any other country, even now. They have killed their own people in millions for nothing. The only reason why Poland is still standing is because of the western countries. Don’t kid yourself, If it was up to Russian government, most of us would be Russian by now building another Kremlin in Warsaw for free.
Havok   
30 Apr 2010
News / RUSSIA TO MAKE PUBLIC THE KATYN FILES... [274]

Reason why you hear more about German war crimes is because Germans lost the war and who writes history books.

They have lost the battle but not the war. look at the big picture. The poor economy of Germany after WWI caused a reaction. Political turmoil, militarization, preparation for the battle of the century…

They are one of the richest countries in Europe 70 years later. They have won imo.

BTW

The history books were not written by Russians. They could not write back then. They have made up most their history during the Stalin era.

The only reason why we are where we are now - because communist ideas failed and Russians turned out of them

What do you think stopped Russia from overtaking the rest of the eastern Europe/Germany for 60 years? Polish spirit?

The political officers were educated and they did in fact keep very detailed records.

I seriously doubt they have accurate records of the katyn event.

Just the same way they don't have clear records of how many of their own people died building st. Petersburg. ( And never mind the names of people who died, they were just peasants)

Guys, your image of Russia looks for me like you take it from comics for simplicity level.

Sometimes things are a lot simpler than you imagine.

I've noticed this pattern with conspiracy theories in a lot of Polish. It's good to analyze, and have a skeptical mind but use it to search for the simplest answers first.
Havok   
30 Apr 2010
News / RUSSIA TO MAKE PUBLIC THE KATYN FILES... [274]

Germans where demonized for decades for what they have done. I agree it was wrong.

but...

The Russian gov have done the most atrocious things and they got away with this with no questions asked. Who is looking for Russian war criminals? Are they any except Stalin? Who was the officer in charge to kill Polish officers in Katyn?

Russia is like this retarded kid that killed your mother but the court ruled he/she is unfit to stand the trial.

The funny part is that they are still at large, and Polish tend to stick with them.
Polish stick with Germans. You’re going to be better off.
Havok   
30 Apr 2010
News / RUSSIA TO MAKE PUBLIC THE KATYN FILES... [274]

There tends to be insurmountable resentment.

Forget the resentment. Germans did. Concentrate on making money fast. Now is the time.

Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia were good friends

Germany basically used Russians.

They needed Ruskies to control the rural part of Poland which they had absolutely no interest in.

Russians of course considered this to be the best deal ever. One step closer to true Europe!
… reclaiming our lost lands from a few decades ago.

Here is also why
They were always infatuated with the idea of being closer to the civilization. And ... that's why all that love for Germans. You can observe similar patterns now. Except Germans want nothing to do with Russians unless it’s somehow lucrative to them.

People in charge are not so much different than the rest of us. It may seem like an elaborate plan to you all but in fact the whole thing really was about two simple ideas.

Russians wanted to control more of Europe. Germans where pissed off for working hard for all those years and having lost everything after WWI.
and at that time...
essentially brand spanking new Poland was totally unprepared, weak and led by totally clueless government. (1918-1939).
The reason why we had any allies at all was because of a few hundred semi-rich, famous and influential Polish families still living in England and France.

The truth is a lot simpler.
Havok   
30 Apr 2010
News / RUSSIA TO MAKE PUBLIC THE KATYN FILES... [274]

in 1939 southern Poland was just fields, villages, one or two cities and a few roads here and there. No industry at all. Strategize for a second here. If you were Germany how would you control landmass like this knowing you going west next? Russia on the other hand had a lot of experience in controlling massive and useless landmasses. Besides Germans knew Russians would love that idea anyways.
Havok   
30 Apr 2010
News / RUSSIA TO MAKE PUBLIC THE KATYN FILES... [274]

I think there is a better explanation. Industrial centers, cheap skilled labor. That's what he needed. Gerries did not worry about Poland becoming a power house. Germany was poor back in 1918 but Poland was broke and clueless. Sort of like now.
Havok   
30 Apr 2010
News / RUSSIA TO MAKE PUBLIC THE KATYN FILES... [274]

Poland fought for independence and was a new nation, a rising star before being partitioned by Germany and Russia

Poland was created to weaken Austria, Germany. Russia agreed to move the deal forward. They were horrified of Germany, Our nation was reestablished as a side effect of the Treaty of Versailles in 1919.

There is more to it, but i want to keep it simple for arguments sake :)
Havok   
30 Apr 2010
News / RUSSIA TO MAKE PUBLIC THE KATYN FILES... [274]

Clueless about what? Economical development?

Germany was in ruins, 20 years later it took them 20 days to take out the whole well developed Poland. The only thing we had by then was a well organized husaria... Let's charge some tanks!

Kudos to Pilsudski for job well done!
Havok   
30 Apr 2010
News / Polish President Lech Kaczynski and gov officials die in a plane crash in Russia [686]

The plane was only 20 years old,

Only 20 f-ing year old Russian plane… You gotta grow pot in your backyard too I bet. WTF does it mean 20 year old piece of sihit Russian plane? Is that equivalent to acceptable in your opinion? What would you say if Obama died in a plane crash with all of the military chiefs and half of congress? I would laugh my as$ off because it just seems unreal.
Havok   
30 Apr 2010
News / Polish President Lech Kaczynski and gov officials die in a plane crash in Russia [686]

land in and out of siberia in way worse circumstances

not with a president on board of the plane.. lol

I've heard of people crash-landing in Alaska on a iceberg too, you know. I have never heard of the whole government DYING on the same day.

Give me one example of a civilized country where the government got wiped in one day.

We're truly making the history here!

I'm so proud to be Polish with you guys on board.
Havok   
30 Apr 2010
News / RUSSIA TO MAKE PUBLIC THE KATYN FILES... [274]

Jed

I absolutely agree with your statement here. Finlay someone is actually researching this stuff.

Poles NEVER charged any tanks. That was a big Nazi German lie that was repeated over and over to discredit and demean Poland. I can't believe you actually believe that big lie.

come down, i know that. I meant to say that comparing with Germany in '39 we had virtually no military.

Saakashivili didn't start anything. Georgia was being violated by Russia and abused for 2 years before Saakashvili did anything

Russia Set Up Georgia for the invasion.

I would agree with Jed on this. You're just simply blabling something....

If you want to stop any beginning reconciliation...go on Olga, you are on the right path!

I would agree with you Brat too , what difference does it make if they release those records or not? Like i said before they probably don't have accurate records of this event anyway.
Havok   
30 Apr 2010
News / RUSSIA TO MAKE PUBLIC THE KATYN FILES... [274]

I'm not even talking about KatyƄ but generally what's going on in Russia now. I had no idea that you are such devoted Russia's lover, Bratwurtski :)

This is not about love or hate. Thy to use your brains for a day.
Havok   
1 May 2010
News / RUSSIA TO MAKE PUBLIC THE KATYN FILES... [274]

Do you really think the huge Russian land, sea and air force that attacked Georgia was put together in 24 hours?? Come on. That took months to coordinate and put together. So what does that say?

Yes, i agree but as for the reason let me just quote Jed.

Easy - Geogia is alternative way for oil and gas pipes from Caspian Sea and Central Asia. Monopoly is better for profit.

Georgia could easily diffuse this situation by making a deal with a bigger and more powerful Russia. Instead they insisted on playing a victim provoking Russian attack.

Georgian Government should have acted in the best interest of its citizens. That makes them equally responsible for the tragedy there. They should make a deal and appeal it later with the U.S. on their side. Another example of a government ran by a bunch of selfish idiots.

nd that Georgia was not as much a victim as a willing participant."

Havok   
1 May 2010
News / RUSSIA TO MAKE PUBLIC THE KATYN FILES... [274]

what do you think we would need to do whole

You are sort of making my point here. Everyone knew ahead of the time what was cooking, there was plenty of time to figure out how to prevent it.

I was a search and rescue swimmer in the U.S. Navy for 4 years, got out in 2k. My job was mainly to save people but I've seen people killed too, it's the most f-ed up thing. The Georgian Government should prevent it.

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GO U.S. SAR!

youtube.com/watch?v=6jlVY36E4ZU&feature=fvw
Havok   
1 May 2010
News / Polish President Lech Kaczynski and gov officials die in a plane crash in Russia [686]

i wouldn't like to feed cospiracy theories with this post

“The pilot was lured to land in the woods...” LMAO, you need to get out more. It's like saying a person who rode a horse was lured to hit a tree. I could fabricate better conspiracy theory on my own. It's like they didn't have a lot of money to work with to create this piece of crap report. "we heard shooting in the woods" ... You guys are about 10 years behind the curve of "mass media fabricating shi*t". Yes I just invented a term.

Come on, wake up Poland!