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Paulina   
7 Nov 2021
Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 2 [1680]

Is it some kind of a border pole? It looks like there's a fence with barbed wire in the backround...
Paulina   
7 Nov 2021
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

The problem is that docs never know for sure when this moment comes

Yes, exactly. If it wasn't for this new law, the doctors wouldn't have to wait for a woman's condition to get worse.
Paulina   
7 Nov 2021
Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 2 [1680]

I think what also matters in this thread is having fun and I just wanted to give other people an opportunity to have some fun too ;)

Whose head is it?

St. Wojciech (Saint Adalbert of Prague)? He's the patron saint of Poland.

What is this woman`s job?

Street merchant selling fruit - in this version she's selling oranges (there's another painting in which she's selling lemons). This painting is well known because of it's history - it was stolen by the Nazis from the National Museum in Warsaw during World War II and recovered by Poland only in 2011 (I like Gierymski's paintings, btw):

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewess_with_Oranges
Paulina   
7 Nov 2021
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

Lenka already wrote what I wanted to write, so I guess I have nothing to add. Maybe besides that I agree with maf - in my opinion both PiS and those doctors are to blame. PiS - not only for the new abortion law, but also for the atmosphere that they created in the country (+ Ziobro's personal vendetta against that doctor).

@gumishu, this article is an answer to all your arguments - read what one of the doctors cooperating with that organisation Federacja na Rzecz Kobiet i Planowania Rodziny has to say - he deals with this problem first hand:

wiadomosci.wp.pl/smierc-pacjentki-z-pszczyny-spodziewam-sie-pokazowego-procesu-lekarzy-6701541733378656a
Paulina   
6 Nov 2021
Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 2 [1680]

Well, I've guessed two riddles in a row already, so...

What is this person and what is he/she doing?

A peasant boy looking at storks :)
Paulina   
6 Nov 2021
Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 2 [1680]

What is this woman`s job?

This one is too easy for me, so I'll leave it for now - maybe someone else will guess it :)
Paulina   
6 Nov 2021
Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 2 [1680]

it is one of Polish cities in the past.

Ah! I had a closer look at those domes - is it Kraków??

This fire wasn`t in Poland but involved Poles. How?

They came with Napoleon. I'm guessing it's the great fire of Moscow in 1812?
Paulina   
6 Nov 2021
Language / Grammar - difference between "jaki" and "co" in Polish language [43]

That seems too much like a translation from English to me...

Well, yes, I must say that it doesn't sound like the most natural option to me... It would be OK though when asking about the type of a building - a semi-detached house, a tenement house, a block of flats, etc.

If I'm asking about function, I can imagine myself asking 'Do czego służy ten budynek

I would use it if I was inquiring about a building which function isn't obvious to me. For example, the answer could be: "Do przechowywania towarów - to magazyn". So, when visiting a factory, for example: "A w tym budynku co się robi?" (rather than "Co robią w tym budynku?"). And the answer: "Tu są montowane części."
Paulina   
6 Nov 2021
Language / Grammar - difference between "jaki" and "co" in Polish language [43]

'What's that building?'

In Polish it's exactly that: "Co to za budynek?" It's a perfectly normal sentence. One could add "jest" ("Co to jest za budynek?"), but I'm guessing that many people in fast, everyday speech would just say "Co to za budynek?". It's shorter, faster. It's like "What's that building?" versus "What is that building?"

when there is a more precise and correct way of enquiring which is to say 'jakiego typu/rodzaju?'

Yes, this is more precise. So, "Jakiego typu/rodzaju to budynek?" would fit, for example, only "a semi-detached house" and maybe "a brick building" (although Poles would usually ask in this case "Z czego jest zbudowany ten budynek?").

You can also ask "Co to za typ/rodzaj budynku?"

And in other cases:

a) a post office

"Co to za budynek?"

If someone inquired about a post office building by asking "Co to za typ/rodzaj budynku?" my first thought would probably be "budynek użyteczności publicznej" (public building) lol So, in my opinion it's better to just ask "Co to za budynek?"

b) an example of early 19th century architecture

"Z jakiego okresu jest ten budynek?" (what period) or "Z którego wieku jest ten budynek?" (which century).

I think that asking about "typ/rodzaj" would make sense if the answer was "kamienica z XIX wieku" ("a tenement house from the 19th century").

And jon357 is right - "Co za budynek!" ("What a building!") is an exclamation, something completely different than "Co to za budynek?". Although I can imagine such use in a very colloquial, sloppy speech. For example, one guy says that his friend saw some spooky, haunted building, but his friend gets embarrassed and upset and claims that he didn't:

- Adam powiedział, że widział wczoraj jakiś nawiedzony budynek na wzgórzu!
- Co za budynek znowu? Gdzie? Wcale nie... Żadnego budynku nie widziałem.
Paulina   
2 Nov 2021
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

You are stupid because you want to cure headache with beheading.

No, I don't. You don't die from headaches, you idiot. That woman died. The baby would die anyway, so how removing the baby and the rest of infected stuff from the womb to prevent a septic shock would be a "beheading"?

Zetnij sobie łeb

Ale z ciebie pojeb... 🤨

you lost the debate with your female interlocutors. I think you are aware of it, aren`t you? :):)

Yeah, it looks like it :))
Paulina   
2 Nov 2021
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

It turns out that there were more cases like that, but those women survived, because they were taken to other hospitals (where they would be helped) by this organisation - Federacja na Rzecz Kobiet i Planowania Rodziny (they won't name those hospitals for fear of retribution):

wiadomosci.wp.pl/smierc-pacjentki-z-pszczyny-od-wyroku-trybunalu-konstytucyjnego-taki-horror-dotyczyl-kilkunastu-polek-6700519335279552a

"- W kilkunastu przypadkach na prośbę kobiet podjęliśmy interwencje. Polegały one na znalezieniu innego szpitala dla pacjentek będących w stanie zagrożenia życia po komplikacjach w ciąży. Choć wcześniej stwierdzono u nich ciężkie i nieodwracalne wady płodu, lekarze wstrzymywali procedury medyczne, dając do zrozumienia, że obawiają się restrykcyjnego prawa - mówi prawniczka."
Paulina   
2 Nov 2021
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

@Cojestdocholery, we're "stupid" because we don't want pregnant women to die needlessly? What the hell is wrong with you?

And why only "women"? There are men on this forum who share our view on this matter.
Paulina   
2 Nov 2021
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

@Novichok, the doctors could be also negligent and slow responding, I'm not ruling that out - that's one of the things I meant when I wrote about the "reality of Polish hospitals", unfortunately... Not that long ago one pregnant woman died because of the hospital stuff not taking her condition seriously enough and not performing the needed tests soon enough...

heart monitors for the woman and her baby included

Oh, sure, OK, maybe WOŚP will take care of that next year then... ;/
Paulina   
2 Nov 2021
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

@Novichok, the woman was texting her family from hospital - she was saying that the doctors are waiting for the baby's heart to stop beating, so they could empty the womb (perform the caesarean section, I guess?) - according to her they were waiting because of the abortion law:

kobieta.wp.pl/rodzina-zmarlej-kobiety-w-ciazy-wydala-oswiadczenie-lekarze-przyjeli-postawe-wyczekujaca-6700134978001856a

"Zmarła w trakcie pobytu, w wiadomościach wysyłanych do członków rodziny i przyjaciół, relacjonowała, że zgodnie z informacjami przekazywanymi jej przez lekarzy, przyjęli oni postawę wyczekującą, powstrzymując się od opróżnienia jamy macicy do czasu obumarcia płodu, co wiązała z obowiązującymi przepisami ograniczającymi możliwości legalnej aborcji" - podaje mecenas Budzowska w komunikacie."

She and the baby should be under constant monitoring

I agree, especially that the doctors decided to wait for the baby's death and considering the mother's condition... But that's the reality of Polish hospitals, I'm afraid, and Pszczyna isn't a big city....
Paulina   
2 Nov 2021
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

We know more details and autopsy results are available now:

wiadomosci.wp.pl/smierc-ciezarnej-30-latki-prokurator-ujawnia-szczegoly-6700494304508864a

The woman was admitted to the hospital in the morning, because her waters broke. The baby was 5 months old, so it was too early. Already at that time the woman had an increased level of C-reactive protein (CRP) in her blood (it increases when there's inflammation in one's body). It means the infection in her body already started. An infection can be the cause of premature rupture of membranes (amniotic sac), btw, but that's just my guess. She was given antibiotics. The baby was alive at that time. The next day the woman's condition got worse, so an ultrasound scan was carried out - it revealed that the baby was dead. The mother also had a high CRP level, so it was decided that a caesarean section should be performed. However, the patient's condition was getting worse and despite the doctors' efforts her heart stopped.

According to the prosecutor autopsy results show that it is highly likely that a septic shock after the baby's death and infection was the cause of the woman's death and the premature rupture of membranes was the cause of the baby's death.
Paulina   
2 Nov 2021
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

When is a human being viable

I think what mafketis meant was that it wasn't possibile to sustain the pregnancy and the baby wouldn't survive outside the mother's womb (especially that it had congenital defects). If it wasn't the case the doctors wouldn't just wait for the baby to die.

@jon357, the problem is that it's not just the woman's body in question anymore - a baby is another "body" made up from mother's and father's genetical material. It's not just some another organ in the woman's body.

So, I think the father should have some say too.

However, it's a different matter when the woman's health and life is at risk. Then it should be her decision in the end, imho.
Paulina   
2 Nov 2021
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

some moral high ground, while vilifying an opponet.

That's what you started doing in your post #1,764. And that's why I reacted to what you wrote.

It is clear who is stupid

You? :D

I was right you are stubborn.

It's you who's stubborn by pretending that this case isn't about terminating a healthy pregnancy, but one that would end (and ended) in the baby's death anyway.

Your nosense will?

What I write is not "nonsense". And if it's the case that this woman died because of the new abortion law, then changing this law into something more realistic and humane could prevent the future deaths of pregnant women in similar situation.
Paulina   
2 Nov 2021
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

You don't need to like the truth about yourself but try to control your emotions.

I do control them - I simply stated a fact :) I guess you don't like the truth about yourself :)) Btw, it was you who first wrote that "I sound stupid", so maybe instead of offending people stick to using arguments and other people will do the same for you.

If a doctor cannot do that becouse he is 'worring' about some law, it means he is fraud not a doctor.

Then "frauds" were working for years in that hospital. Btw, I'm afraid your musings won't comfort the dead woman and her family. I'd rather I didn't have to worry myself about what laws doctors at the hospital are worrying about when they're deciding whether to save my life or not. Laws should be as reasonable and as clear as possibile, especially if a human life is at stake - no matter what doctors are like in a given country. Because the world isn't perfect, doctors are people too and they aren't perfect either.
Paulina   
2 Nov 2021
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

You are a very stiupid woman and I will not spar with you online.

I am not stupid. Btw, I may not be a doctor, but this guy is - why don't you "spar" with him:

kobieta.wp.pl/pacjentka-zmarla-bo-czekano-az-obumrze-plod-ginekolog-komentuje-przerazajaca-sytuacje-6699751802096512a

We don't know IF the law has anything to do with it.

Actually, we do - read what that doctor has to say:

"- Aktualnie ciąże z bezwodziem, nawet kilkunastotygodniowe, pomimo fatalnego rokowania, obejmowane są opieką i przyjmuje się postawę wyczekującą, bez możliwości jej przerwania. Pacjentki podlegają między innymi ocenie pod kątem powikłań zapalnych. Sytuacja, w której dochodzi do zakażenia wewnątrzowodniowego z powikłaniami septycznymi, jest stanem ciężkiego pogorszenia zdrowia i zagrożenia życia ciężarnej. Z informacji, które posiadamy, wynika, że to właśnie z taką sytuacją mieliśmy do czynienia u pacjentki - tłumaczy dr Socha."

Why all you pro-abortion freaks are sure that an abortion is a nice solution, why do you think that an abortion would save that woman?

You're not only stupid, but clearly also some f*cked up freak. Why don't you read about the case first, before you start throwing accusations at people.

Please provide a translation for Polish text in this section of the forums
Paulina   
2 Nov 2021
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

I'm not a doctor, I don't know whether oligohydramnios (bezwodzie) is enough for the mother to develop a septic shock, whether the baby has to be dead or whether it's enough that it's dying already.

The doctors knew the baby is going to die and they waited for it's death because of the new abortion law. This is not the same as with aborting a healthy pregnancy - when you know that the child will live. That's why your accusations, Cojestdocholery, that we don't care about life and we're for killing are inappropriate.

Btw, have you wondered what kind of death it is for the baby? It sounded like the doctors waited for quite some time. What if the baby's dying was long and painful?
Paulina   
2 Nov 2021
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

@Cojestdocholery, write in English. This isn't the Polish section of the forum.

Its clear what you are for.

Not to you, it seems.

As for comments your comment was stiupid.

Actually, my comment was smarter than yours :) But you just called your comment stupid :)) If you can't see that, it means you're retarded.
Paulina   
2 Nov 2021
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

@Cojestdocholery, you clearly don't know what I'm for, you idiot, since you don't even know my views on abortion in general. And my comment was simply a mirror reflection of your retarded comment.
Paulina   
2 Nov 2021
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

@Cojestdocholery, why do you pretend to care about life? You are for killing. You don't care about some children you can't even see. All you care is a religious doctrine and all you want is for women to die - the more the better.

Show me where and when abortion was a known healing method and I will agree with you.

Not a "healing method", because that woman wasn't sick, but apparently in this case not emptying the womb in time could lead to a septic shock. It's mentioned in this article:

wiadomosci.wp.pl/kobieta-zmarla-w-22-tygodniu-ciazy-dyrektor-szpitala-odpowiada-na-zarzuty-6700223330327488a

"Nie ulega wątpliwości, że przyczyną śmierci pacjentki był wstrząs septyczny. Według źródeł medycznych, choć nie jestem lekarzem, wstrząs septyczny związany jest między innymi właśnie z bezwodziem i z sytuacją obumarcia płodu - wyjaśniła."
Paulina   
1 Nov 2021
Life / Has feminism and lesbianism progressed in Poland? [645]

I wouldn't belive anything that TV tells you. It is all propaganda.

I haven't found out about this case from TV. The woman's family made an official statement:

kobieta.wp.pl/rodzina-zmarlej-kobiety-w-ciazy-wydala-oswiadczenie-lekarze-przyjeli-postawe-wyczekujaca-6700134978001856a
Paulina   
1 Nov 2021
Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 2 [1680]

And what about this fire? Hint - it has Fire in the title

"Pożar dworu pod Miechowem" by Artur Grottger, one of the main artists depicting the January Uprising. This painting shows one of episodes of the uprising - after the failed attack of insurgents on Miechów, Russians set fire to the town and forbade to put it down. Drunk Russian soldiers were looting and burning down people's houses.

*to put it out
Paulina   
1 Nov 2021
Life / Has feminism and lesbianism progressed in Poland? [645]

This case has nothing to do with women's rights

It looks like this case has everything to do with the present abortion law. Only women get pregnant and can have an abortion. And in this case a f*cked up law was more important than a woman's life.

we have to press those katotalibans all the time.

Apparently they are going to be protests...

There was a similar case in Dublin. It led in part to a change in the law there.

And Poland is regressing :(