UK, Ireland / Is it good for Poland as Sinn Fein will win today in Northen Ireland [282]


It amuses me that Atch is the same person that wanted to ban all Russian-supporters from this forum and even started a whole thread about it. Now it emerges, that Atch is a bit of an irredentist herself. The dirty complaining about the unwashed. As you said - if Ireland lost a part of its land 100 years ago, then Poland only lost it 77 years ago. In Russia's case, it lost its key territories just 31 years ago.

Now this little slogan of yours... One island. One people. One state. Hehehehe.

Sounds a little like: Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer - no?

Food / Poland-Tea or coffee land? [165]


There is proof, then, for our commonality. Each Pole and each Russian carries within himself a blueprint of the original hard drinking Slav.

Food / Poland-Tea or coffee land? [165]

Whaaaaaaat? I thought only I had this figured out.

Darkest of black teas, judicious use of lemon - two cups of - back to work.

Off-Topic / Why do people here fight so much? [128]


Three possible answers. First - Kiev, Second - Novgorod. Third - all the areas in between.

Kiev is called the Mother of All Russian Cities. It's the historical center of gravity for the ancient state of Rus.

On the other hand you could argue that Novgorod is where it all started, because that is from where Oleg the Seer planned and executed his takeover of Kiev, which was the beginning of the creation of the Russian state.

Finally, both Kiev and Novgorod were in effect run by Vikings (Askold and Dir in Kiev, and Oleg, relative of Rurik in Novgorod). They were invited there to rule by the local population. So in this way you could argue that the origin territory is neither place, but everything in between these two points.

Unlike Ukrainians, Russians can trace the history of their leadership all the way back to Rurik. That is, there is an unbroken line of Novgorodian-Kievan-Vladimiran-Muscovite-Russian-Imperial-Soviet-RF leaders that you can trace from the 800s to the 21st century. When Ukrainians try to explain how it's actually them that are the custodians of Rus history, this is where things begin to break down for them. Every single one of their legendary leaders turns out to be a historic Russian statesman that considered himself Russian and never applied the word "Ukrainian" to himself.

At this point, many Ukrainians attempt to flip the script and say that they are the true Russians, and we are a mongrel finno-ugric race. Is this what you mean? That Ukrainians are the true Russians?

Off-Topic / Why do people here fight so much? [128]


Eggxactly.

I apologize.

But really, it is annoying. They see you getting dumped on constantly, or even do it themselves and extract no small amount of pleasure from it. You humor them, expecting reciprocity. They laugh, and they laugh and laugh. Then you make one comment - it's: "Goddamit I knew that every Russian is a chauvinist aggressor!"

Off-Topic / Why do people here fight so much? [128]

@jon357

No comments on my racial theory of humor?

Off-Topic / Why do people here fight so much? [128]


Yes, but who cares what the lumpenproletariat thinks? They don't pay taxes, rarely vote, and most importantly rarely travel outside of their zip code which limits embarrassment with outsiders.

They believe stranger things than Poland running death camps, and it is their god given right.

Off-Topic / Why do people here fight so much? [128]

@Novichok

If a Russian was to react every time to any perceived slight, we would have no time to do anything else. At least Poles are just "Dumb Pollacks". We replaced the Nazi's wholesale as America's bad guys, pretty much since 1945. Also, we're alcoholics, hookers, slaves, orcs, mongols, etc. Then, there is the beloved argument of Cojest and Pawian - Russians don't even exist!

We just don't care anymore, and take it in stride - trying to make the most of it.

Same situation for more or less all the other countries with nice humor listed.

Poles invite even more ridicule through their constant outrage.

Off-Topic / Why do people here fight so much? [128]

@pawian

Most people with a non-idiot's understanding of history, know that these camps were merely located in Poland and hence Polish only through geography. This is in contrast to an Austrian (Mauthausen) or German camp (Dachau).

Off-Topic / Why do people here fight so much? [128]

@RussianAntiPutin

It has been clear to me for some time, that an ethnicity's propensity to poke fun at itself, is inversely proportional to the degree of success they achieved in history.

This is why Russians, Americans, Jews, Brits (I have to admit) - have well developed rubrics of humor which are dedicated to making fun of themselves.

Now, on the other hand - you have countries which are very sensitive to any implication that they are a joke. Poland is the number one example in the world - it will sue you for implying in a newspaper article that the death camps in Poland were Polish, or it will write long letters to Hollywood complaining about insulting representations of Polish culture.

Another country that takes itself incredibly seriously is Ukraine. They'll fight you over authors, composers, military leaders, inventors, etc. A word said sideways about their shallow culture and funny language, and they will launch into monologue about Great Russian chauvinism and reach for all the family jewels.

A third example, of a very unhumorous people - are Belgians. To some extent, it's an understandable defense mechanism against constant French ribbing, but it does make them less than satisfactory drinking companions.

Off-Topic / Best posters [886]

@jon357

Sort of odd for me to think of Vonnegut as an sci-fi writer, but I suppose it applies to some works - Galapagos specifically. But Slaughterhouse Five, for example, was autobiographical. I think you will really enjoy his stuff, based on what I know of you. Funniest man to write in the 20th century, imho, and I even read Jaroslaw Gasek and Mikhail Zoschenko.

Off-Topic / Best posters [886]

@jon357

Jon have you read Galapagos, by Vonnegut?

Off-Topic / Best posters [886]

Gertrude Stein, once wrote that: "There never will be anything more interesting than that American Civil War."

Clearly she was wrong. The most interesting subject in the world is anal. Even 10,000,000 years from now, when people will have evolved into furry, seal-like creatures - it will still be considered funny by their shrunken brains for one to place his penis in another's butt.

Language / A study on how bilingual Polish-English speakers think [86]

I have noticed that bilingual Polish-Russian speakers have much higher level of emotional stability than bilingual Polish-English speakers. I will not name any names, but you know who you are.

Off-Topic / Let's talk about shoes [344]

@Alien

Is this even a question? You seem to have answered it yourself.

Rapidly moving on... I still have something to say on this subject.

You can use winter boots in the summer if you are at high altitude.

You can use winter boots in the summer if you live somewhere past the Arctic Cirlce.

You can use winter boots in the summer if you are a goth teenager.

You can use winter boots in the summer if you have exceptionally smelly feet. The reason - winter boots will provide a more hermetic seal - this making you a more pleasant companion. If you feel more attention that usual from people - tell them "I'm just breaking them in early".

P.S. This is a classic question an extraterrestrial would ask.

Life / POLISH MYTHS - let's debunk or prove them! [141]

@pawian

Russian hedgehogs are capable of carrying not only apples, but mushrooms also.

I saw one photo of a hedgehog carrying a marinated mushroom.

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Off-Topic / Best posters [886]


If a baboon can participate in a forum, why not a cat? I'm sorry - I apologize for this classic whataboutism...

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Off-Topic / Best posters [886]

@Alien

... and when you say you enjoy eating cats - is this not a provocation? Shock!?

News / Poland's Krab Howitzer (the 155mm gun) Has Passed the Test! [49]

@pawian

The next 60 came out costing $700M. That's one expensive self propelled artillery you Poles made! $12M a pop! Making good money on Ukrainian war, are you?

Off-Topic / Best posters [886]

@Novichok

Alright, sorry. Really it was just a dumb joke, I shouldn't have tried to substantiate it. Jokes don't always have to be true to be good, though I agree it's best when they are true.

Off-Topic / Best posters [886]

@Novichok

I apologize, I just thought I noticed a certain penchant for approaching minors of the opposite sex.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

@Korvinus

If you read Hobbes, then the answer to this question is that it is a bad idea, because he could do the same to you. Can a baby kill you? I suppose it could.

Off-Topic / Best posters [886]


I have suspicions that Cargo Pants, Strelecz and Johnny Reb are all the same person, but at different levels of blood alcohol content.

Genealogy / CHERDIA - What or where could it be?! [15]

@Pleuvoir

Zherdia is actually quite plausible as origin for Cherdia. Especially since its Polish spelling might have contained the letter Z as Czerdia. Kamenets was the state capital of the entire P.G. So people from smaller villages likely received their documents there.

I think this is relevant, especially if there is one in the Podolsk Governorate in those years when he emigrated.

Genealogy / Birth in Lviv in 1926: Polish or Ukrainian nationality? [29]

@Irenka

Pre-39 Polish nationality, if after then Soviet nationality.

Genealogy / CHERDIA - What or where could it be?! [15]

Here is a link to an electronic version of a book published in 1893, listing all settlements in the Podolsk Governorate:

elib.shpl.ru/ru/nodes/25851-guldman-v-k-naselennye-mesta-podolskoy-gubernii-alfavitnyy-perechen-naselennyh-punktov-gubernii-s-ukazaniem-nekotoryh-spravochnyh-o-nih-svedeniy-kamenets-podolskiy-1893

Also, you could look at maps and try to find it. In general, this will be a big task on account of the fact that the Podolsk Governorate was huge (today it is spread across multiple oblasts of Ukraine), and very densely populated (second only to Moscow region). Even in the 1890s there were 3 million people living in the area, and today it's probably closer to 15 million people living in the same territory. There are probably hundreds of villages in that area.

Here's one map, unfortunately the names are written in Russian. Got it from the Russian language Wikipedia page where you can find it in original size. I gave a quick scan and did not see a Cherdia.

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Genealogy / CHERDIA - What or where could it be?! [15]

@Pleuvoir

Не за что.

Just another little tip. If you have no idea how to even begin spelling a Russian word you'd like to search, try finding its English Wikipedia article first. Then on the left side tab switch the language to Russian and copy over the articles Russian title for your searches. Russian Wikipedia is among the biggest, and certainly more complete on Russian subjects than the English version. Thus, I think you will always be able to find that link.

Off-Topic / Stock Market and Trading Talk [1011]


Whoa! You are truly a genius. I had to look it up now, and $36 represents the exact bottom for the stock's movement over the last five years. Given your, how shall we say - less than stellar past performance - it is nothing short of a miracle that you timed your investment into Exxon so perfectly. Surely, this is because you had developed a strong thesis for why Russia was going to invade, and correctly predicted the specific implementation of the sanctions packages against Russian energy companies. Goldman Sachs needs traders like you. Hell, even the CIA could benefit from your awesome analytical abilities.

I stand in awe of your investing skill.

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Genealogy / CHERDIA - What or where could it be?! [15]

@Pleuvoir

You probably will have to install a Russian keyboard on your pc, and start using Google Translate on webpages heavily. As workaround for keyboard since it will be hard to use without the stickers, you can use a website like translit.cc. It will transliterate whatever you write in Latin into Cyrillic.

Here's a few Cyrillic terms you can copy/paste in your searches and not worry about the spelling:

Подольская Губерния - Podolsk Governorate
Деревня - village
Уезд - sort of like county. If Governorate is equivalent to a U.S. State or Canadian Province, then Uezd is a lower level administrative division like a county.

Архив - archive
Перепись 1897 года - 1897 Census

Finally, here's a few attempts of mine at guessing what a potentially correct spelling for Cherdia is:

Чердиа
Чердя
Чердь
Черяда

PS. Governorates and Uezds don't exist in Russia since the October Revolution, so the results you get when searching these terms should be relatively specific to the time period you need without getting a lot of other clutter.

Genealogy / CHERDIA - What or where could it be?! [15]



I don't think Podolsk the city is meant here. It's listed second, after Cherdia, so to me it indicates that it refers to the Podolsk Governorate (Подольская Губерния). The territory of the former Podolsk Governorate bordered Austria-Hungary in the West and is entirely inside modern Ukraine, while Podolsk the city is outside Moscow. So, these are very different places. It being placed in Russia in the documents is not relevant since Ukraine did not yet exist. If I remember correctly, this poster's family was Ukrainian in origin, so it would make much more sense for them to be from this state, rather than the city near Moscow.

You could try going through Russian archival data to find where in the Podolsk Governorate Cherdia was located. It's clear to me that it was a small place, likely a village, and not a city because no large settlements under that name appear in the Wikipedia entry for the Podolsk Governorate. My hunch would be that the village no longer exists. Thousands of villages in the Western USSR disappeared during WW2, and especially in this area. The Podolsk Governorate had a large Jewish population (~15% according to Wiki), so if your family is Jewish in origin or came from a predominantly Jewish village, then it's doubly likely that it no longer exists and has been lost to history.