Genealogy / Birth in Lviv in 1926: Polish or Ukrainian nationality? [29]

@Irenka

Pre-39 Polish nationality, if after then Soviet nationality.

Genealogy / CHERDIA - What or where could it be?! [15]

Here is a link to an electronic version of a book published in 1893, listing all settlements in the Podolsk Governorate:

elib.shpl.ru/ru/nodes/25851-guldman-v-k-naselennye-mesta-podolskoy-gubernii-alfavitnyy-perechen-naselennyh-punktov-gubernii-s-ukazaniem-nekotoryh-spravochnyh-o-nih-svedeniy-kamenets-podolskiy-1893

Also, you could look at maps and try to find it. In general, this will be a big task on account of the fact that the Podolsk Governorate was huge (today it is spread across multiple oblasts of Ukraine), and very densely populated (second only to Moscow region). Even in the 1890s there were 3 million people living in the area, and today it's probably closer to 15 million people living in the same territory. There are probably hundreds of villages in that area.

Here's one map, unfortunately the names are written in Russian. Got it from the Russian language Wikipedia page where you can find it in original size. I gave a quick scan and did not see a Cherdia.

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Genealogy / CHERDIA - What or where could it be?! [15]

@Pleuvoir

Не за что.

Just another little tip. If you have no idea how to even begin spelling a Russian word you'd like to search, try finding its English Wikipedia article first. Then on the left side tab switch the language to Russian and copy over the articles Russian title for your searches. Russian Wikipedia is among the biggest, and certainly more complete on Russian subjects than the English version. Thus, I think you will always be able to find that link.

Off-Topic / Stock Market and Trading Talk [1011]


Whoa! You are truly a genius. I had to look it up now, and $36 represents the exact bottom for the stock's movement over the last five years. Given your, how shall we say - less than stellar past performance - it is nothing short of a miracle that you timed your investment into Exxon so perfectly. Surely, this is because you had developed a strong thesis for why Russia was going to invade, and correctly predicted the specific implementation of the sanctions packages against Russian energy companies. Goldman Sachs needs traders like you. Hell, even the CIA could benefit from your awesome analytical abilities.

I stand in awe of your investing skill.

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Genealogy / CHERDIA - What or where could it be?! [15]

@Pleuvoir

You probably will have to install a Russian keyboard on your pc, and start using Google Translate on webpages heavily. As workaround for keyboard since it will be hard to use without the stickers, you can use a website like translit.cc. It will transliterate whatever you write in Latin into Cyrillic.

Here's a few Cyrillic terms you can copy/paste in your searches and not worry about the spelling:

Подольская Губерния - Podolsk Governorate
Деревня - village
Уезд - sort of like county. If Governorate is equivalent to a U.S. State or Canadian Province, then Uezd is a lower level administrative division like a county.

Архив - archive
Перепись 1897 года - 1897 Census

Finally, here's a few attempts of mine at guessing what a potentially correct spelling for Cherdia is:

Чердиа
Чердя
Чердь
Черяда

PS. Governorates and Uezds don't exist in Russia since the October Revolution, so the results you get when searching these terms should be relatively specific to the time period you need without getting a lot of other clutter.

Genealogy / CHERDIA - What or where could it be?! [15]



I don't think Podolsk the city is meant here. It's listed second, after Cherdia, so to me it indicates that it refers to the Podolsk Governorate (Подольская Губерния). The territory of the former Podolsk Governorate bordered Austria-Hungary in the West and is entirely inside modern Ukraine, while Podolsk the city is outside Moscow. So, these are very different places. It being placed in Russia in the documents is not relevant since Ukraine did not yet exist. If I remember correctly, this poster's family was Ukrainian in origin, so it would make much more sense for them to be from this state, rather than the city near Moscow.

You could try going through Russian archival data to find where in the Podolsk Governorate Cherdia was located. It's clear to me that it was a small place, likely a village, and not a city because no large settlements under that name appear in the Wikipedia entry for the Podolsk Governorate. My hunch would be that the village no longer exists. Thousands of villages in the Western USSR disappeared during WW2, and especially in this area. The Podolsk Governorate had a large Jewish population (~15% according to Wiki), so if your family is Jewish in origin or came from a predominantly Jewish village, then it's doubly likely that it no longer exists and has been lost to history.

Life / What do Poles really think about cats? [470]

Dog personality=Cat personality^10

My dog, even though it is incredibly stupid and belongs to one of the stupider breeds in general, is capable of easily performing tasks that would be extremely complex for a feline.

How come you don't see any cats at the border, or working in counter narcotics, riot control, security? Because they are useless.

Language / Polish people: did you struggle learning English - differences between both languages [76]

@Lyzko


Yes, and this is why many times one sounds like an idiot without realizing it.

Language / Polish people: did you struggle learning English - differences between both languages [76]


Nah it's not a pain, we all learned to type this way in the 90s - not least because you cannot type a website url in Cyrillic, or some other specific applications. Irritating, but not a big issue.


It is absolutely maddening. "I live in a house" vs "I live in the house" vs "I live in-house" - very difficult to wrap your mind around as a new student.

Language / Polish people: did you struggle learning English - differences between both languages [76]


This is indisputable. It's kind of you to group Russian in the European group of languages instead of Orcish. What's helped me most is understanding how many Russian and English words are French or German in origin. Studying Italian in college gave me an appreciation for the Latin foundation. Being wary of false friends, these have been amazing guides.

Language / Polish people: did you struggle learning English - differences between both languages [76]


Oh stop tooting your horn. I learned your language, idioms and all within ten years. Articles are still an issue for me though. Drives me mad when I miss a "the".

Off-Topic / Best posters [886]

@johnny reb

I am not 16 and I think your posts are creepy AF. So there's that.

Off-Topic / Best posters [886]


Russia is a democratic country, with constitutional protections for citizens' freedom of speech. This is your right, and I will type many posts in forums in support of your right to continue opposing the president.


To protect the gentle psyche of our young members I will answer you. Your Russian is perfect. As good as Google translate can get. Now bugger off to "your" thread. It's yours, right?

Off-Topic / Best posters [886]

@RussianAntiPutin

I apologize, I just cannot contain myself when I see pictures of the Sun-like One. Feel blessed, child, that your entire life has been spent under his watchful eye.

Off-Topic / Best posters [886]


What... are you gay, or something?

Off-Topic / Best posters [886]

@jon357

What a man. What. A. Man. Look at those pectorals.

Off-Topic / Best posters [886]

@GefreiterKania

I am getting accused a lot of homosexuality recently. It's all Pawian's fault for starting a "Hot Polish Men" thread. I ask you - why is it me getting attacked and not the man who founded the thread?

Off-Topic / Best posters [886]

@Lenka

Sometimes when I read old threads I start feeling sorry for myself for missing out on the Golden Years of PF. At the same time, back then there was no Novichok. The appearance of Novichok, aka Rich Mazur, was like a bolt of lightning on a clear day. Immediately it became clear that this kind of razor sharp logic and powers of deduction are without precedent on the server.

Also, those veterans that stayed have fermented and matured, like the famed canned suckers that JR consumes in his hut. Pawian of 2014 vintage, is not the same as 2022 Pawian. His wit is more ascerbic, his gardening knowledge more perfected.

News / Let's protest censorship in Poland's mainstream media! [90]

@Ludwig

If you really cannot live without your daily serving of non-biased news, use a VPN.

Off-Topic / Best posters [886]


Chill. I am only kidding. Velund and I have had few successes in propaganda. Everybody still hates us. You embarrass me no more than I embarrass myself.

News / Let's protest censorship in Poland's mainstream media! [90]

@Ludwig

Is that Alex Jones' website where he discusses subjects like how the government turned all the frogs gay, and how the Sandy Hook kindergarten shooting is a Soros-funded hoax?

Off-Topic / Best posters [886]


To be fair, when I was sixteen I also marveled at how anyone past 60 was able to continue interacting with technology. Now I recognize how utterly insulting this should have been to my grandparents that built all the infrastructure on which my life was based.


Jesus, get a clue - Novichok is 76. Honestly, you are embarrassing me. Velund and I have worked very hard to get to the point where we are now - where all people on the forum respect Russia and the views of Russians. I'm afraid your thoughtless posts can erase years of labor. Please check yourself before you wreck yourself.

History / Current Polish-Russian relations.. What do the Poles think? [60]


There is a quote from some Greek, regarding the Romans: "Conquered, we conquer." It was in regards to how the Greeks, despite being militarily subjugated, conquered the Romans through culture.

How do you know, then, that merging with Russia would not forever change the fabric of Poland? Russians are not as small as Lithuanians which you can systematically sideline and dilute. It would effect changes in your society that would have made it unrecognizable to you. Poland, with all its idiosyncrasies, is a product of history and geography as any nation is. Including Russia. Your freedoms and our autocracy have reasons behind them. Could Poland control such a territory while keeping in place the highly decentralized form of government you poets enjoy so much? Perhaps an absolutist autocracy is the only way dozens of peoples can be kept in check, without everything descending into a bloodbath regularly?

Off-Topic / Best posters [886]

@Novichok

Whoa! JR is on your list?

Off-Topic / Best posters [886]

@jon357

Goddamn you Jon. My coffee went down the wrong hole because of you.

Here is my list:

1) Crow - highly erudite man, with expansive knowledge of all things Sarmatian. Also incredibly polite.
2) Pawian - a Polish baboon, with surprising knowledge of gardening and art.
3) Alien - he eats cats.
4) Cargo Pants - an Indian Jew who lives in New Jersey, and hates the idea of foreigners immigrating into the United States.
5) Novichok - an inventor, a stable genius, and a man that is incapable of lying.

Off-Topic / Best posters [886]

@Strzelec35

Ahoy Sralec, my buddy, my guy. Wondering if you received some DMs regarding tantric massage work while you were resting in the cooler? There was a nice man passing through the forum, and I went on a limb and provided him your info since I know that money has been tough.


Such a swell guy, and quite handsome for a 37 year old too. If you can get over the super glued gash.

History / Current Polish-Russian relations.. What do the Poles think? [60]

Merged:

Top 5 Things A Polish Person Will Not Admit To A Russian

Here is my list:

1) Vodka > horilka > zubrowka

2) Polish businesses made absolutely tons of money in Russia and CIS countries pre-UKR meltdown.

3) Poles appreciate Russian sense of humor.

4) Large national oil and gas deposits are actually a nice thing to have

5) It is nice that it was a Russian rocket that delivered Mirosław Hermaszewski to space.

History / POLISH AND RUSSIAN FRIENDSHIP WILL LAST FOREVER [513]

????

How come I never get such questions? I would love to answer.

History / POLISH AND RUSSIAN FRIENDSHIP WILL LAST FOREVER [513]

@Crow

I would like to think that the reason Serbs are pro-Russian in their orientation is because they haven't forgotten about a little thing called loyalty. Serbs don't have to go far back in history to see that Russia supports its friends.

This admirable behavior stands in stark contrast to that of some other characters, like Germany or Greece, for example. Germany repays a once in a lifetime gift of national reunification by taking an absolutely one-sided stance in the current conflict in favor of Ukraine (neutrality would have been nice, nobody expects support). Greece owes its entire existence to a Russian foreign minister of Greek origin, and the blood of thousands of Russian volunteers - yet it also succumbs to Western pressure (perhaps it's the recent experience of bankruptcy that makes them so pliable). This cannot but leave a bad taste in the mouth.

Love / Do you think these renowned Poles are hot? [150]

@pawian

Only Pawian understands me.