History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]


I believe so.


He did not, however, present to them the consequences of failing to meet those demands. That's why he'll achieve nothing, as all others before him.


I am a peasant at heart and by choice, so PSL remains my party. Żywią y bronią and all that.

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]


In the words of a poet...

My name is Pawian the ape,
I'm on the Brig o' Leith,
I've lost the key to my arse,
So I'm shittin' through my teeth.

As usual, I may add.


God is my witness that I never desired honours or political offices. But just once, this f*cking once, I would like to be Polish foreign minister sent to talk with Zelensky.

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]

@amiga500

Thanks, Amiga. That's pretty much what I said, in not as many words, in #408.

Language / Older Polish Exclamations/Swears [14]


Which, of course, doesn't mean "God defend you" but "God forbid that you should do it".

Language / Older Polish Exclamations/Swears [14]

"Broń boże!" means "God forbid!" not "God defend me!". Polish is tricky like that.

An old-fashioned swear for your period is, for example, "Do kroćset!" (darn it, dash it).

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]


Brilliant. Let them scream.

Then the world will start asking why they scream.
So they will say that Poland is trying to force them to do something against their will.

Then the world will ask what is it that Poland is trying to force them to do against their will.
So they will say that Poland is trying to force them to allow proper burial of civilians that they
brutally murdered in a bestial ethnic cleansing.

When the world is informed of that, it will make their position of Beacon and Shield and Christ somewhat untenable.


I think technical works on railways they will also understand.

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]


I have a better idea:

1. Send an official request for full-scale exhumations. If there is no answer or if there's a refusal within two weeks, then lower the level of diplomatic relations.

2. Issue a second, more strongly worded, request. If there's another refusal, start long and thorough technical works on the Rzeszów-Lwów railway connection.

3. Issue a third, and final, request. If they refuse again, sever the diplomatic relations altogether stating that Poland has no interest of maintaining relations with European Hutu (although, as far as I know, Hutu do not oppose the burying of Tutsi bodies and the Rwanda genocide took place half a century after Volhyn genocide, so maybe we will have to find a different comparison or just say 'barbarians')

It's as simple as 1 ... 2 ... 3. If only Poland was ruled by Polish patriots and not a bunch of Muppets.

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]

They are probably the only country in Europe in which a Waffen SS unit is officially glorified as heroes.

Ukrainians will not allow the exhumations for a very simple reason - it would reveal the full scale and extent of their bestiality. Although when I say 'bestiality' I actually insult wild beast, because animals are not capable of such cruelty.

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BB calls you Crowie all the time! Accept it - PF loves you :)

News / How will Poland be affected by WW3 which has now started [559]


Novi, Novi, Novi... asking such questions on PF and expecting an honest answer (not to mention drawing conclusions from the answer) is a bit naive; but hey - we should keep faith in humanity, shouldn't we?

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Poland grew from 23 to 40 million under communism. The first peak, as you rightly notice, took place in post-war years - not right after but several years later when the situation stabilised - and it was a bigger one in terms of children per woman (my grandparents' generation had more children than my parents' generation). The late 70s early 80s peak was the echo of that first peak (women born in the first peak having children of their own - fewer than their mothers but still quite a few).

Stability played a huge part. But also the fact that the society was more uniform, there weren't such disparities in wealth, and the culture didn't promote consumerism as much. When I talk to women from my mum's generation they all say the same thing: everyone had a job, you didn't have to worry about basic necessities, even if there were shortages in shops you could always organise (załatwić) everything - they felt safer (not my words but theirs).

History / Pol-Shorpy Photo Thread [950]

Raze it to the ground!: 1944

There is one city in Poland that suffered proportionally more than Warsaw in WW2. Yesterday was the 80th anniversary of the razing of Jasło. It wasn't destroyed by war but as an act of blatant war crime. German authorities gave inhabitants three days to leave their homes and began total destruction: the city was almost totally razed and looted; 97% (!) of buildings were destroyed and 1020* railway wagons of loot were transported to Germany (mostly Dusseldorf).

* - some historians estimate that if railway wagons with the works or art, machines, cars and other loot stolen in entire Poland by Germans during WW2 were put in one railway track, the last wagon would be still in Warszawa Zachodnia whilst the locomotive would be at Berlin Hauptbahnhof!

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Or was it Deutschland schafft sich ab? *scratches head*

I wish Germany all the best. Hopefully common sense prevail in the end.

History / Should Poland organize March of the Living in Volhynia and Eastern Lesser Poland? [65]


Oh, you devil! :)


The legal background is definitely visible in your posts but you add warmth and humanism to it too. If you weren't so infatuated with the truth, you would make a great (and dangerous) propagandist.

As for Volhynia, sowing discord, marching, apologising etc. ... *sighs*... maybe our grandchildren will figure out a way out of this mess.

History / Should Poland organize March of the Living in Volhynia and Eastern Lesser Poland? [65]


Bobko uses American spelling (analyze, apologize, colonization etc.).


Nonsense. Bobi writes a bit like American George Orwell most of the time - elegant but simple; skillfully but without unnecessary ornaments. Yes, sometimes there's a hint of something more intricate, let's say early to mid 20th century British literature there (think Evelyn Waugh, maybe Aldous Huxley to a lesser extent) but certainly not Victorian.


And he was quite right! Unless you would have preferred Nazi Germany in his place. You depress me, Pawian.

History / Pol-Shorpy Photo Thread [950]


Hilarious. They were trolling before it became fashionable. :)

History / Pol-Shorpy Photo Thread [950]

Jarocin: late 1980s

Choose life.
Choose a job.
Choose a career.
Choose a family,

Choose a f*cking big Soviet 'Rubin' TV,
Choose Polish Fiat 126p
Choose meat and sugar ration cards...
Choose life.

Young people found many ways of dealing with the overwhelming hopelessness and bleakness of late PRL. Apart from kompot, a homemade drug called "Polish heroine", they found refuge in music. One of the best known music festivals for youth back then was Festiwal w Jarocinie. The festival was sometimes visited by MO (Citizens' Militia) but they law enforcement officers weren't welcomed very warmly by the youngsters.

History / Should Poland organize March of the Living in Volhynia and Eastern Lesser Poland? [65]


I'll take my meds, you will lay off alcohol for a while, and everything will be right in the universe. :)

History / Should Poland organize March of the Living in Volhynia and Eastern Lesser Poland? [65]


Indeed.

I only wish you would refrain from your scandalous Ukrainophobia in those other threads. Have some decency. :-/

History / Should Poland organize March of the Living in Volhynia and Eastern Lesser Poland? [65]


You have repeatedly insulted our Ukrainian friends, neighbours and allies by claiming that they are immature and unable to admit their crimes. You have also displayed gross anti-Ukrainian bigotry by denying them their Kievan Rus heritage and refusing to recognize it as the first independent Ukrainian country.

This blatant anti-Ukrainism (at a time like this!) fills me with righteous indignation which makes it impossible for me to discuss anything with you any further in this thread. Reflect upon your bigot ways, cease with your Ukrainophobic hate-speech and then maybe (just maybe) I will talk to you like one would with a civilised person. But first, your horrible bigotry of low expectations towards the noble and wise Ukrainian nation must stop.


When a person agrees to murder a child in its mother's womb, he stops being a centrist and becomes a neo-marxist maniac.

History / Pol-Shorpy Photo Thread [950]

Graj, piękny Cyganie: 2015

Gypsy keyboard maestro is playing for the newlyweds as they exit the bride's house in Rakowo, a small village near Gniezno.

History / Should Poland organize March of the Living in Volhynia and Eastern Lesser Poland? [65]


So you deny the Ukrainian claim that Kievan Rus was the first Ukrainian state? Your bigotry and anti-Ukrainism knows no bounds.


Perfect centrism means perfect decency, so obviously I oppose murdering children. Perfectly centrist attitude. :)

History / Should Poland organize March of the Living in Volhynia and Eastern Lesser Poland? [65]


You see, Pawian, even Konstytucja 3 Maja was a Ukrainian constutution, and you treat them like some immature idiots! :)

History / Should Poland organize March of the Living in Volhynia and Eastern Lesser Poland? [65]


But they draw their roots all the way back to Kievan Rus!

Ironside and Amiga have a very good point: you denigrate and belittle our Ukrainian neighbours by treating them like retarded children. I think I speak not only for myself but also for every decent member of PF when I say that this kind of bigotry should be frowned upon on any discussion board and you should be ashamed of yourself, Pawian.

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:)

Work / 9000 gross salary in Warsaw? [18]

I think telling people what you earn is gross.

*I'll get my coat*

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]


Surely not! Ukrainians? Lying about what happened? Impossible.

*profoundly shocked*


I'm very concerned about Ukrainian credibility.

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]

@Alien

Isn't it obvious? People in Donbass are living close to the frontline, under constant bombardment from both sides, suffering casualties from the very beginning of this war. It's been their reality for over two years now.


Well, at least we're useful whilst you're just an idiot without any adjective. :)

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]


Tragic event. However, nowhere near the horrors experienced by people of Donbass every day.

In any case, the railways leading from Rzeszów to Ukraine have been under a lot of strain with all those gigatons of cargo rolling constantly on them. I think it's time to start repairs. Profound and thorough repairs; and lengthy ones too (at least as long as the time needed to allow the exhumations of genocide victims in Volhynia).

Not my idea but Sławomir Mentzen's - I begin to like this guy. :)

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"What are you, Mars or something?". :D

Brilliant.