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If Slawomir Nowak, who has recently got officially arrested (before then he was only detained) decides to save his skin and to become a crown witness POKO will be in big trouble. And even the "king of Europe" Donald Tusk will have a reason to worry since Nowak was his henchman.

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@cmf_beuf


Poland is the only European country which has achieved a continous economic growth for the last 3 decades. So I wouldn't worry about that


There was a political support from Latvia and Slovenia during the summit againts the condition of so called "rule of law". They are justifiably concerned that this tool may be used to discipline anyone who transgresses against Brussels in the future. And many more will open their eyes that the "rule of law" is simply a punishment for overstepping an unofficial doctrine of the EU which is neomarxism (all those "legal" problems have started when Poland refused to take in so called muslim "refugees")

And I think there are more ways of creating divisions between EU countries.
I'm not trying to hide it that Polexit and especially a deconstruction of the EU and replacing it with simple trade agreements would be benefitial for Poland. So the more we damage this corrupted neomarxist institution the better for us.

This way or another a common borowing scheme in times of crisis will be the EU economic downfall. From now on Germany will have no excuse for not pumping taxpayer's money and financial reserves into Spain, Italy and Greece which are in a permanent economic crisis...

"The European Union's agreement on a coronavirus recovery fund is likely to embolden nationalist leaders in Poland and Hungary because it sets no mechanism for tying the disbursement of money to democratic norms."

nytimes.com/reuters/2020/07/21/world/europe/21reuters-eu-summit-easteurope-rule-of-law-analysis.html

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#1 There is nothing controversial about Polish judicial reforms - as long as you're not a commie judge or their advocate - and the EU has nothing to do with it. Which was proved by German High Court in Karlsruhe twice already

#2 I read few articles about those recent negotiations and Poland not didn't signed a [economically destructive] "CO2 neutrality" bill but also those very vague remarks about "rule of law" were watered down in order to pass the bill without futher delay. And Poland + Hungary will be able to block it in European Council, which require unanimous decision (all votes in favour minus 1 accused member) in order to punish an EU member, just like before. So nothing new here

#3 In 8-10 years from now, which means very soon after this 7 year EU budget which was passed already, Poland will become a net payer to the EU budget

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Don't discourage them. I would like it very much if "total opposition" would get into this dead end subject. This would guarantee that they'll never win a majority in a Parliament. Militant LGBT and obviously "refugees" are both great subjects to sink them.

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Good, so there's two of you already. Find 2 more and you can play Bridge (while talking about cultural revolution)

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They went to vote not because they were in favour of militant LGBT but simply because they were against Duda and, in general, against PiS.

LGBT was an important part of campaign but the political division in Poland is much deeper than that and last longer than militant LGBT issue.

Anyway, this way or another anti-LGBT Duda won. Those were a 4th major elections (6 if you include less important EU elections) lost by a "total opposition" and they've learned nothing from it. Which is great because I don't want them to take over power in Poland ever again but rather to be left to rot in a role of a permament political opposition.

PiS should be firmly replaced in the future by Konfederacja and not by "total opposition" which is even worse than PiS...

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No, it doesn't. There are many moderate-left older voters who are against Duda, against PiS or even against Right-wing conservatism in general, but are in favour of traditional values when it comes to family and society.

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Poland has one of the lowest rates of domestic violence in Europe

fra.europa.eu/sites/default/files/fra-2014-vaw-survey-at-a-glance-oct14_pl.pdf

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It's not about "irritating" Russia but about controlling the situation in a key region of Central Europe. And Latvia with its 3 mil. population and non-existent military force is not a serious option to do so.

Any US bases established in such a small country next to the Russian border would be swept away in the first wave of attack. The Baltic states are almost undefendable from Russia - from a military point of view - in a large scale conflict.

Poland occupies a key position in the heart of Europe which is a curse in case of European full scale West vs East conflict but a blessing when it comes to international trade routes and geopolitical advantage in times of peace or a local conflict, like we have now.

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@pawian
That's very simple to estimate. It is measured by a level of shouting and a number of an empty political declarations. And just like KOD will quickly disperse without solid structures and funds.

Correction: faster than that since they know already how KOD ended.

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@pawian, I was referring to a loud minority of "useful idiots'" and not to all those 10 million people who voted for Trzaskowski.
In those 10 mil. voters I see many different categories of people.
And certainly among them there are groups which could be persuaded to change their minds in the future.

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@ziemowit @pawian, you are a funny fellows. You will support anything which, in your perception, would hit PiS even if it is against the interest of Poland.

That's sad, but fortunately you're a part of - loud but shrinking - minority of 'useful idiots' (no offence, that's a political term popularized by exKGB officers to describe this type of behaviour) I'm afraid.

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We'll see that when she is replaced, won't we? If that's not going to change anything then it should be a mere formality.

I expect it would be someone less clumsy, more tactful, with more experience and less bloated ego.
A diplomat is just a messenger.

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You're naive @mafketis.

The US has as much interest to be involved here economically and politically as Poland does.
Germany wants to emancipate from the influence of the US and to create independent "EU army" ( a bundeswehr on steroids), and to make direct strategic deals with Russia (North stream II). Basically they would like to nullify the practical results of WWII.

Poland and Britain are the only major obstacles in achieving that. And Britain is leaving the EU right now.

And also if the US wants to keep the pressure on Russia they need Poland as well. It's a win-win for both Poland and the US.

And some minor dispute over a clumsy diplomat is not going to change a geopolitical situation in the region, heh

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It would be a good move since she has overstayed her welcome. I believe that Trump is pragmatic enough to understand that. Military and economic connection between the US and Poland is more important than some minor issues.

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Actually, it was a Sanation, ruled by Marshal Pilsudski with roots in PPS [Polish Socialist Party], who sent their political opponents to place of isolation at Bereza Kartuska and not the other way around.

And many of those were were imprisoned there were ONR members [National Radical Camp]: Zygmunt Dziarmaga, Władysław Chackiewicz, Jan Jodzewicz, Edward Kemnitz, Bolesław Piasecki, Mieczysław Prószyński, Henryk Rossman, Włodzimierz Sznarbachowski i Bolesław Świderski to name a few.

Before sending @gumishu back to school perhaps you should visit a library yourself first? ;-)

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@BratwurstBoy, the most profit I will ever make from the existence of the EU is when I bet against € on currency stock exchange right before the inevitable financial collapse of the eurozone. The right timing would be my only concern

"Angela Merkel has secured her place in the pantheon of European statesmanship by agreeing to common EU borrowing"

politico.eu/article/angela-merkel-milestone-moment-europe-coronavirus-response/

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That's decades of mental conditioning and implanted (for many) - during communist era - inferiority complex talking.

Poland is well capable of defending its own rights and changing the course of the European politics. And especially since similar changes took place in some other EU countries where we can find allies.


I wish they would. Unfortunately they want to stay in this neo-marxist structure. The only way to change their mind is convincing majority of Poles to become EUsceptic and the party will have to follow. Konfederacja is the only truly EUsceptic party.

And how to do that? By showing regular Poles not abstract concepts but real concerns about how the EU wants to interfere with their normal lives and how they want change them for the worse.

To show them the truth that Brussel "elites" wants to destroy our natural order with islamization, enforced multi-kulti, refugees ("refugees" won PiS 2015 elections), militant LGBT movements (this has greatly helped Duda to win also), anifa thugs (like in the US quite recently), "liberal" media attacks on Poles marching on Independence Day calling them "fascists" and "nazis"

And as a counter-balance to show them the vision of an independent European nation-states bonded by trade agreements and not by centralized political control coming form Brussels.

Another important thing which will help greatly is the fact that soon Poland will become a EU net payer so the sacramental words of EUenthusiasts that "the EU gives us money" will loose its power.

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Well, at least you do are agree with the fact that some EU members are more equal than the others. That's a very important first step.

And you probably wouldn't argue and something needs to be done with that unjust fact, right?
Then the rest is just a technical matter : what tools do we need, and what steps do we have to take, in order to destroy this unjust status quo.

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The EU law doesn't control nor supersede National Court System which the case of German Federal Constitutional Court in Karlsruhe versus European Court of Justice have already established in May 2020

ft.com/content/db720dde-19e8-4e9c-bbfb-b4d48db71a6c

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@mafketis

Thank you for telling me what I do prefer and why I am where I am. Without you I would be lost.

I cannot even say that your blind fury gives me any satisfaction. I feel pity for you more than anything else

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Andrzej Duda has won and regardless whether he won by 20% or 0.1% his presidential powers are the same.

I'm counting on him to continue with necessary judicial reforms (decomunization of the courts) and also starting a project of a structural Polonization of mass media in Poland. Money has nationality.

That's all I'm expecting from him in the next 5 years of presidency.

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Pros of the EU membership:

> access to the single market

Cons of the EU membership

> regulations, regulations, regulations...and a lot of social engineering achieved by a structural funds

> the fact that Brussels, and Berlin, dictates to Poland who we should or shouldn't invite to our country ("refugee" crisis), or how should we rule our own country (judicial reforms)

> massive multi-kulti, LGBT and a generaly anti-civilization neo-marxist movements within the EU political elites which aim to destroy traditional European culture based on Christian values and an ancient Greek philosophy

Unrelated to the EU membership

> unrestricted movement withing the "EU borders". Schengen Zone is actually a separate agreement and it is possible to belong to Schengen and not to the EU (Norway, Switzerland) or to belong to the EU but not to Schengen (UK, Ireland)

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I've never claimed that.

My post #1,678 from 29 Jun 2020 direct quote (check my post for full info not limited by a quote length):


@delphiandomine, can't you just have a decent conversation without lying about me or any other person you don't agree with? I've got a very good memory, I've told you that already. No point of trying those cheap tricks with me.

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@delphiandomine You are amusing. Why would I want to or have to lie? And especially now, after the voting took place? Use your logic, mate.

Here's the 1st round of presidential elections exit polls for Duda: 41.8%

And the official results: 43.5%

When I said that there will be difference between today's exit polls and the official results I obviously meant that Duda will gain few extra % of advantage over Trzaskowski.

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Almost makes a world of a difference

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Don't take exit polls too seriously. They are not, and never were, very accurate.

Before tomorrow there will be no reliable data to comment on. And the official results will be available on 14th and, as usual, will be different by a few % than exit polls.

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He is trolling.

I doubt he doesn't know that Poland, which is a normal country, have never prosecuted homosexuals and decriminalized homosexual acts in 1932.

Germany, on the other hand, have build death camps for them. And a few decades later they swang to the other side and started praising [not simply tolerating] all sexual deviations from the norm, including paedophilia*. A German collective mind is a very unstable one.

What really puzzles me that they're thinking of themselves as of somehow a very civilized society which should teach us what to do.

dw.com/en/germany-allowed-pedophiles-to-foster-children/a-53839291

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@Lenka, sure, but to the young generation of Poles he is known mostly as an internet meme.

Huh, came back from a short vacation and there a ton of pre-election propaganda produced on PF's already :-)

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Kwasniewski and Komorowski gave Trzaskowski a kiss of death by giving him their full support right before the 2nd round of elections.

This is the end beautiful friend...🎵

wpolityce.pl/polityka/508164-patroni-komorowski-i-kwasniewski-poparli-trzaskowskiego