The BEST Guide to POLAND
Unanswered  |  Archives [3] 
  
Account: Guest

Posts by jon357  

Joined: 15 Mar 2012 / Male ♂
Last Post: 5 hrs ago
Threads: Total: 74 / Live: 23 / Archived: 51
Posts: Total: 24876 / Live: 14831 / Archived: 10045
From: In the Heart of Darkness
Speaks Polish?: Tak

Displayed posts: 14854 / page 9 of 496
sort: Latest first   Oldest first   |
jon357   
11 Jul 2025
Genealogy / Polish and gypsy traditions [140]

tarmac your drive

They still do round my way, however there's a big presence in that town.

In the Leeds suburbs, if you've something metal like an old cooker that you want to get rid of but don't want to take to the tip, you just leave it at the end of your drive in the morning and they collect it for the scrap during the day.
jon357   
11 Jul 2025
Off-Topic / Stock Market Talk and Trading - part 2 [724]

Yep. Crypto appeals most to those who can least afford the losses they inevitably suffer

Basically people who try to make a fast buck and have very few morals or ethics.

Yes, but the actual costs of trading are only taken into consideration by those who trade

You can either invest or trade. If you do both, it's important to a. be very rich and able to afford losing money and b. be aware that they are very different animals.
jon357   
11 Jul 2025
Off-Topic / USA News and Poland - part 16 [687]

as long as the engine is running...that's the law in Germany

For us it's driving with one (unless it's hands free and integrated with the vehicle). If there is a serious accident and one party is using a mobile phone, they are automatically guilty and are always jailed. It is taken very seriously. After accidents, both/all parties' mobile phones are checked to see if there was any activity immediately before the accident.

The law is strict and that is better than the situation in countries where using mo ileś while driving is entirely normal.

A few times in PL, I've been in Ubers where the driver has a video screen attached to the dashboard and is watching films/TV shows while they drive. Most recently one was watching an Uzbek soap opera. This should really be addressed since sooner or later someone will die in a crash due to this.
jon357   
11 Jul 2025
Classifieds / Used computers/electronics market in Tri-City, Poland. [12]

Amazon Prime Day

Amazon Prime exists in Poland however they don't do that in the same way; the market is different. Reconditioned MacBooks are usually a better buy, providing they don't come from China and haven't been used by a gamer.
jon357   
11 Jul 2025
Off-Topic / Stock Market Talk and Trading - part 2 [724]

I am a complete crypto sceptic

The same. So-called 'cryptocurrency' is largely a scam. Rather like a Ponzi scheme.

it's too important for his angry young men voters

Most of them have of course lost money on it.

I only have a small amount but for the second year running Bitcoin is my best performing assets

Same here. I bought some around the time I first started posting here, pre-2010. Only a bit, though it rocketed and I still have some. Most other people who buy it don't make much and for 'cryptocurrencies' other than bitcoin, almost everybody who buys it loses their money.

it's a scam he actively earns money on

That's shameless really and a scandal. In developed countries, a politician would be expected to resign if they were caught pushing fake currencies to make money on.
jon357   
11 Jul 2025
Off-Topic / Random Chat Thread [976]

[login to read]
jon357   
10 Jul 2025
Genealogy / Polish and gypsy traditions [140]

F*ck "subcultures".

They always appear, and long may they do so.

criminality

Every society has that, without exception. No country has no police, courts or prosecutors.
jon357   
10 Jul 2025
Off-Topic / MH17 10 years later - Russia Found Guilty [8]

MH 370

Do you think it was an accident? They keep finding more and more bits of the plane, some thousands of miles away, carried by ocean currents.

So many theories, some conspiracy theories.

It's worth mentioning though that there were 200kg of Lithium-ion Batteries in the cargo h9ld.
jon357   
10 Jul 2025
Genealogy / Polish and gypsy traditions [140]

I have an impression

An incorrect one.

That statement says more about you than me. I do see what you're saying though and would add that the more developed and affluent the society, the less slack the6 can be cut. Something bad enough in a remote and hungry Amazon tribe is ten times worse if it's practised by privileged groups.

white and Christian

The Gypsies where I come from are very much both.

retarded

Why use that nasty word? What have people with learning disabilities ever done to hurt you. Words have power; it's best to leave the toilet talk to people lie, Novichok who can't help themselves.

As for Romany traditions, they've ensure survival against all odds and against the worst sort of persecution for centuries. Their ancestors three centuries ago were cleaner than yours and mine.

what they're called in English.

Just camps and/or winter quarters. The ones I've seen up close in Poland (specifically in Poldlasie) have characteristics of both but are closer to winter quarters.

After doing some reading I've got an impression that for Roma people it's "us (Roma) vs them (the rest of society)" mentality.

That's what people have pushed them into. Successful subcultures are the ones able to protect themselves.
jon357   
10 Jul 2025
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 23 [1012]

You have made 28 posts today

Counting are you?

A quiet day here in the jungle. Too hot to go out.

Great news though that there's more military aid going to Ukraine. Every little bit goes towards drinking down r*SSia.
theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jul/10/russia-ukraine-war-europe-live-latest-news-updates-putin-zelenskyy-von-der-leyen-eu
jon357   
10 Jul 2025
Genealogy / Polish and gypsy traditions [140]

some traditions are worth preserving and some are not.

The question is, who decides?

One thing about Romany, is that they don't often discuss all of the traditions that make up "gypsiness". Some are almost a thousand years old and rarely discussed with outsiders.

Some are known about, like gypsy men filing rather than cutting their nails, some of the traditions regarding hygiene (until settled people gotta indoor plumbing, Romany were generally far cleaner), some of the food rules, the th8 g about phone numbers and a couple of other things. Others aren't ever discussed with outsiders.

If you've ever been given bank notes by Angloromani, you'd have noticde something special.

tabor

When writing or speaking English, it's better to say camp rather than tabor. There's an identical word in English with a different meaning and in English, gypsy camps are t called tabors.

Well, very high unemployment

We don't have that. Romany almost never ever claim unemployment benefit. Perhaps they have a more settled and established role in society. From the way I've seen some people in this thread talk about them, no wonder some of them don't want to engage in society.

This contributes to "social exclusion" as cited in the article:

All part of the hostility against them. A vicious circle.
jon357   
10 Jul 2025
Genealogy / Polish and gypsy traditions [140]

Pikeys

That word is best avoided.

Snatch was a film. Fiction.

Every depiction of Irish Travellers and English Gypsies I've seen

Visit and come to my town. You'll meet some. That is better than a depiction.

went too far

The soldiers that did that certainly went far too far. I've not heard about such things ever happening among the Angloromai and from what I know, they'd self-regulate very efficiently.
jon357   
10 Jul 2025
Genealogy / Polish and gypsy traditions [140]

Turned into normal, non-thieving, non-scamming individuals.

Ours aren't.

You're obviously doing something wrong.

parasitizing

They don't.

Do their own kids not feel self conscious

A good friend is a full blooded Romany and he's a credit to his family.

how their mother has no rights and is treated as less than human?

Like the women and little girls raped in Bucha?
jon357   
10 Jul 2025
Genealogy / Polish and gypsy traditions [140]

Policy is determined locally, by municipal leaders and governors.

As far as I know, that's the same for us.

reform

Reform?
jon357   
10 Jul 2025
Genealogy / Polish and gypsy traditions [140]



Here it is.

About the question in the post before, what is the situation in your country about peripatetic Teachers for Romany and Traveller kids?
jon357   
10 Jul 2025
Genealogy / Polish and gypsy traditions [140]

A rich tradition. One worth preserving.

Do you know the famous Polish song based on the Agnieszka Osiecka poem?
jon357   
10 Jul 2025
Genealogy / Polish and gypsy traditions [140]

Sitting on their ass all day, smoking cigarettes and sipping on tea - while their wives and children beg on street corners.

That's r*SSians for you, and says a lot about that society.

Ours don't do that. A lot of Romany and Irish Travellers are in the scrap metal business or in construction.

What special provision is made for educating the kids there? A family friend used to work as a peripatetic Teacher, employed by the county to follow the families around as they move.
jon357   
10 Jul 2025
Off-Topic / USA News and Poland - part 16 [687]

always say they're from the States.

You used to hear 'stateside'. Popular among a certain type of early/mid-1980s business executive/office monkey who'd been there once on holiday to Florida and once on a business trip to New Jersey until people started laughing at them for saying it.
jon357   
10 Jul 2025
Life / Will Poland ever be multicultural like Sweden, Germany or France? [283]

along with 1984 and Fahrenheit 431 and Arthur C Clarke and Frank Herbert Dune

Quite.

Crome Yellow is almost fun, however his contemporaries like Waugh and Woolf are a mile ahead.

I've always liked the way DH Lawrence (more or less local to me so they really pushed it at school and an elderly neighbour when I was a kid knew him when he was young and thought he was seedy) took the pĩss out of him in The Man Who Loved Islands.
jon357   
10 Jul 2025
Life / Will Poland ever be multicultural like Sweden, Germany or France? [283]

an Aldous Huxley dose

A dreary writer, though his famous last words will go down in history: " LSD, 100 micrograms, intramuscular".

I wonder what Pan Ryszard's fast-approaching last words will be. Maybe "all women are b1tches and morons'.
jon357   
10 Jul 2025
Genealogy / Polish and gypsy traditions [140]

due to the smallness of the community.

Only a few surnames, as I recall.

Generally very nice people in my experience.
jon357   
10 Jul 2025
Genealogy / Polish and gypsy traditions [140]

A very rough lot and

We were in a hotel over Christmas with some Travellers (visiting family at a local camp who didn't have room for them in the vans, sort of the same as us).

Great people, very friendly to us, a little on the boisterous side. The women (all very young) were dressed like pop singers on stage. Those people know how to have fun.

The person I was with didn't pick up that they were Travellers and just thought they were party people. I found them to be fine.

One of them (as camp as a row of tents, btw) was telling us about how many times he'd been arrested in Hudddersfield!

In the city where we were, there have been Romany gypsies for 500 years and many have houses that they use as winter quarters. It's partly due to there being a lot of common land where they can graze horses. Plenty of Irish Travellers too; there are two council sites next to each other, one for each group, and there's never any trouble. They're part of the community, albeit a separate part.

If you want to go down a fun internet rabbit hole, have a look on YouTube for "traveler rants". Some are great fun. My favourite is Martin 'puff daddy' Ward. Camp, very openly gay and seems to love fighting.
jon357   
10 Jul 2025
Life / Do colored immigrants in Poland function better than in Western countries? [256]

comparing sledzie and black pudding.

They're much closer than you think albeit very different in some noticeable ways, however (in common with most island countries) England has a more complex and robust culture, one which outsiders think they understand but never ever do.

islamic empire that invaded india

The Moghul Empire and its dramatically sudden fall should be compulsory learning in American schools.
jon357   
10 Jul 2025
Off-Topic / USA News and Poland - part 16 [687]

You can have 1000 aircraft carriers but that's not how to win wars in the 21st century. It didn't help in Iraq of Afghanistan

And the future is AI.

I've a feeling that in the next war we'll see more than just the drones and robotic dogs that have been shown to the public. <ilitary tech is always a bit further ahead than what is put in the public domain.

On my island, anybody who would vote for a deficit would be executed after a brief trial

On his island, nobody would be left alive due to all the executions and genocide. Who would want to go there?

Better to have an LGBTQI+ island; at least we've a never-ending supply of people willing to settle there and be fabulous.
jon357   
10 Jul 2025
Life / Do colored immigrants in Poland function better than in Western countries? [256]

the days of polish children being caned in australian schools in the 50s is over

Or any children.

You do hear sad stories in Poland though about the way school staff, especially so-called catechicists (too early to care about spelling) treat children with one or both parents from overseas.

how do you introduce western values to new migrants

I've a feeling that that boat has now sailed; the numbers are too large.
jon357   
10 Jul 2025
Life / Do colored immigrants in Poland function better than in Western countries? [256]

assimilation

Those days are gone.

Once, someone who emigrated from, say, Poland, needed a short wave radio to hear their own language, couldn't get kielbasa for love nor money and needed to save half a year's wages to visit home.

Now, people have all the TV channels they had at home, the entire internet at their fingertips and of course Ryanair Stansted-Modlin is often cheaper and always quicker than PKP Warsaw-Szczecin (and that includes airport travel/waiting).

And if ever the concept of Australia is introduced to the new arrivals, it's in the sociological concept of Australia being a colonial, genocidal, racist entity. Rather than a multicultural country we should all be proud of.

Something to blame Yank academics seeking to impose their views on others and r*SSian and Chinese propagandists seeking to undermine the free world are very much to blame for.