Lyzko
20 Aug 2021
News / Israel furious as Poland signs law to limit property claims [200]
I certainly haven't one. Neither, I can readily assure you, has anybody else.
I certainly haven't one. Neither, I can readily assure you, has anybody else.
Lyzko
20 Aug 2021
News / Israel furious as Poland signs law to limit property claims [200]
Hard to square even harder, colder facts with the understandable emotions of those ejected from THEIR, not someone else's, homeland. Put yourself for a moment in the Jews', for that matter any refugee group's, position. Empathy's never easy, folks-:)
Hard to square even harder, colder facts with the understandable emotions of those ejected from THEIR, not someone else's, homeland. Put yourself for a moment in the Jews', for that matter any refugee group's, position. Empathy's never easy, folks-:)
Lyzko
20 Aug 2021
News / Israel furious as Poland signs law to limit property claims [200]
@Maf, the point of the story was, as with stolen "formerly" Jewish art works as well as tangible personal assets, that title search can yield a wealth of useful info. What likely occured after '45 was in all probability that countless desparate, displaced Poles needed a place to live, were told, "Hey, some Yids used to live around here, but they're all dead, so 'guess you guys can move on in 'cuz they sure ain't comin' back!" They eventually took possession and the rest is history.
@Maf, the point of the story was, as with stolen "formerly" Jewish art works as well as tangible personal assets, that title search can yield a wealth of useful info. What likely occured after '45 was in all probability that countless desparate, displaced Poles needed a place to live, were told, "Hey, some Yids used to live around here, but they're all dead, so 'guess you guys can move on in 'cuz they sure ain't comin' back!" They eventually took possession and the rest is history.
Lyzko
20 Aug 2021
News / Israel furious as Poland signs law to limit property claims [200]
According to whatever local legal standard remains extant, to the "original" owner(s) of the property and their descendants, I suppose. Would certainly make sense, if I, you or whoever found ourselves in the identical situation! Easy to cast stones and blame Jews as the eternal victims racket. It's tough to fess up to the sin.
Back to the Native Americans analogy, there was an odd case roughly fifty years ago about the proverbial Canarsie Indian in Bklyn. who came knocking on the door of a young Caucasian couple who'd recently purchased the house (free and clear, so they thought), but who had forgotten to do a title search!! Upshot of the story is that sadly for Mr. & Mrs. John Smith plus junior, the couple was taken to court by said Canarsie Indian who discovered that the house was in fact located on stolen property. Legally the property wasn't theirs, although the broker who sold it to them swore up and down, backwards and forwards, that it was. The thief in question was the US gov't. way back around the time the area was settled by the Europeans. Turns out, I'm afraid, that the couple had to forfeit their "new" home and settle for another such one-family dwelling in the same boro, but in a different location, evidently not as nice as their dream house.
That title search might have saved 'em one heck of a lotta grief.....and money:-)
According to whatever local legal standard remains extant, to the "original" owner(s) of the property and their descendants, I suppose. Would certainly make sense, if I, you or whoever found ourselves in the identical situation! Easy to cast stones and blame Jews as the eternal victims racket. It's tough to fess up to the sin.
Back to the Native Americans analogy, there was an odd case roughly fifty years ago about the proverbial Canarsie Indian in Bklyn. who came knocking on the door of a young Caucasian couple who'd recently purchased the house (free and clear, so they thought), but who had forgotten to do a title search!! Upshot of the story is that sadly for Mr. & Mrs. John Smith plus junior, the couple was taken to court by said Canarsie Indian who discovered that the house was in fact located on stolen property. Legally the property wasn't theirs, although the broker who sold it to them swore up and down, backwards and forwards, that it was. The thief in question was the US gov't. way back around the time the area was settled by the Europeans. Turns out, I'm afraid, that the couple had to forfeit their "new" home and settle for another such one-family dwelling in the same boro, but in a different location, evidently not as nice as their dream house.
That title search might have saved 'em one heck of a lotta grief.....and money:-)
Lyzko
20 Aug 2021
News / Israel furious as Poland signs law to limit property claims [200]
Excuse the historical faux pas. I recalled too late upon posting, Blacks and Indianrs - '24, women's voting rights '2O! Couldn't edit message in time.
Excuse the historical faux pas. I recalled too late upon posting, Blacks and Indianrs - '24, women's voting rights '2O! Couldn't edit message in time.
Lyzko
20 Aug 2021
News / Israel furious as Poland signs law to limit property claims [200]
Analogies though with other massive-scale depopulation actions such as those among the Native Americans and the US "Lebensraum" are inappropriate! The Jews of Europe were historically almost a tribal nation, only reluctantly granted citizenship until relatively late in the game. Native Americans, like the Roma, were never and still aren't officially granted citizenship status, whereas Polish Jews lived alongside gentile Poles. Shtettls were NOT reservations, therefore the Jews were living fair and square in homes/properties they purchased with their own money. If you're thrown out of YOUR home, how would feel about compensation?
Analogies though with other massive-scale depopulation actions such as those among the Native Americans and the US "Lebensraum" are inappropriate! The Jews of Europe were historically almost a tribal nation, only reluctantly granted citizenship until relatively late in the game. Native Americans, like the Roma, were never and still aren't officially granted citizenship status, whereas Polish Jews lived alongside gentile Poles. Shtettls were NOT reservations, therefore the Jews were living fair and square in homes/properties they purchased with their own money. If you're thrown out of YOUR home, how would feel about compensation?
Lyzko
19 Aug 2021
News / Israel furious as Poland signs law to limit property claims [200]
Similarly, I haven't an anti-gentile bone in my body either. However, there's a distinction between out-and-out bigotry and criticism of others-:) We all can stand improvement.
Similarly, I haven't an anti-gentile bone in my body either. However, there's a distinction between out-and-out bigotry and criticism of others-:) We all can stand improvement.
Lyzko
19 Aug 2021
News / Israel furious as Poland signs law to limit property claims [200]
If Jew, Black, LGBT hatred etc. had never existed, it would have to have been invented! Scapegoating is a cancer and it needs feeding Milo, Johnny and some of the rest of you.
If Jew, Black, LGBT hatred etc. had never existed, it would have to have been invented! Scapegoating is a cancer and it needs feeding Milo, Johnny and some of the rest of you.
Lyzko
19 Aug 2021
News / Israel furious as Poland signs law to limit property claims [200]
More symbolic than anything else in the long run.
More symbolic than anything else in the long run.
Lyzko
19 Aug 2021
News / Israel furious as Poland signs law to limit property claims [200]
The satisfaction of having stolen property returned lies in the sentimental rather than solely the monetary value of same, everyone knows that::-)
Often, merely the act of getting back at the wrong doer(s) is worth far more than any financial gains therein.
Eons ago, I was physically manhandled at a (to remain nameless) Manhattan business office, and essentially pushed out of the waiting area and into the corridor. Naturally displeased, instead of getting on my libetard high horse about morally "correct" behavior etc. which would have yielded zilch, particularly back in the late '80's, instead, I left the building and found myself a nice clean pay phone several blocks away. I then proceeded to call the same office from which I was merrily trounced, affected a most convincing Mafia-lawyer accent, complete with Cuomoesque coarse, gravelly, Brooklynese and pretended I was this made-up lawyer calling on behalf of his client and demanded recompense, all but causing the "tough" office manager to gulp hard and have cardiac arrest on the phone, so frightened him I did.
Money??? I got NOTHING from the farce other than the sheer satisfaction of having bested a bully!
The satisfaction of having stolen property returned lies in the sentimental rather than solely the monetary value of same, everyone knows that::-)
Often, merely the act of getting back at the wrong doer(s) is worth far more than any financial gains therein.
Eons ago, I was physically manhandled at a (to remain nameless) Manhattan business office, and essentially pushed out of the waiting area and into the corridor. Naturally displeased, instead of getting on my libetard high horse about morally "correct" behavior etc. which would have yielded zilch, particularly back in the late '80's, instead, I left the building and found myself a nice clean pay phone several blocks away. I then proceeded to call the same office from which I was merrily trounced, affected a most convincing Mafia-lawyer accent, complete with Cuomoesque coarse, gravelly, Brooklynese and pretended I was this made-up lawyer calling on behalf of his client and demanded recompense, all but causing the "tough" office manager to gulp hard and have cardiac arrest on the phone, so frightened him I did.
Money??? I got NOTHING from the farce other than the sheer satisfaction of having bested a bully!
Lyzko
19 Aug 2021
News / Israel furious as Poland signs law to limit property claims [200]
It's more about principle than "principle", if you catch my drift-)
It's more about principle than "principle", if you catch my drift-)
Lyzko
17 Aug 2021
Lyzko
17 Aug 2021
News / Israel furious as Poland signs law to limit property claims [200]
Jews are Semites. Judaism is a religion.
Jews are Semites. Judaism is a religion.
Lyzko
17 Aug 2021
News / Israel furious as Poland signs law to limit property claims [200]
Exactly. Had the tables been turned, Protestants would have rounded up! But Christians were in the majority. Ck. out Prof. Bart Ehrman to set you straight-:)
Exactly. Had the tables been turned, Protestants would have rounded up! But Christians were in the majority. Ck. out Prof. Bart Ehrman to set you straight-:)
Lyzko
17 Aug 2021
News / Israel furious as Poland signs law to limit property claims [200]
No, typical. The different are usually scapegoated.
No, typical. The different are usually scapegoated.
Lyzko
17 Aug 2021
Lyzko
17 Aug 2021
News / Israel furious as Poland signs law to limit property claims [200]
Jews in and of themselves never were the root problem or cause of antisemitism! It was gentile missperception and marginalízation.
Jews in and of themselves never were the root problem or cause of antisemitism! It was gentile missperception and marginalízation.
Lyzko
16 Aug 2021
News / Israel furious as Poland signs law to limit property claims [200]
It'll never go away, like crab grass, unless attacked at the root!
It'll never go away, like crab grass, unless attacked at the root!
Lyzko
16 Aug 2021
News / Israel furious as Poland signs law to limit property claims [200]
Perhaps because it is fertile soil for nut jobs and yahoos ready, willing, and able to give vent to that ol' familiar scapegoat, anti-Jewish bias:-)
The Mods recognize they must remain above the fray in order for there an area for there to be a fray in the future!
Perhaps because it is fertile soil for nut jobs and yahoos ready, willing, and able to give vent to that ol' familiar scapegoat, anti-Jewish bias:-)
The Mods recognize they must remain above the fray in order for there an area for there to be a fray in the future!
Lyzko
15 Aug 2021
Lyzko
15 Aug 2021
News / Israel furious as Poland signs law to limit property claims [200]
The newpaper report from whence this discussion came, of course-:)
The newpaper report from whence this discussion came, of course-:)
Lyzko
15 Aug 2021
News / Israel furious as Poland signs law to limit property claims [200]
I'm confused. Please send me the link in Polish! Thank you.
I'm confused. Please send me the link in Polish! Thank you.
Lyzko
15 Aug 2021
News / Israel furious as Poland signs law to limit property claims [200]
In the end, only the irretrievably cynical could imagine that it's solely about money. It's more about intangibles such as denial of ultimate, sometimes complicit responsibility. At least the Polish gov't. admitted to the possibility of a crime, unlike the Turks with the Armenians!
In the end, only the irretrievably cynical could imagine that it's solely about money. It's more about intangibles such as denial of ultimate, sometimes complicit responsibility. At least the Polish gov't. admitted to the possibility of a crime, unlike the Turks with the Armenians!
Lyzko
15 Aug 2021
Lyzko
15 Aug 2021
News / Israel furious as Poland signs law to limit property claims [200]
When is "just" ever just enough? Too little is always too late, lest you neglect your Christian duty! Being a human being means especially when it's INconvenient-:)
When is "just" ever just enough? Too little is always too late, lest you neglect your Christian duty! Being a human being means especially when it's INconvenient-:)
Lyzko
14 Aug 2021
Polonia / POLES vs BULGARIANS [160]
From the little I've learned, the Bulgarian language differs radically from Polish. The former apparently has so-called "Balkanisms" similar to both Romanian and Albanian, further sharing charactarístics with Danish, Swedish, and Norwegian! Bulgarian also has more verb tenses than Polísh-:)
From the little I've learned, the Bulgarian language differs radically from Polish. The former apparently has so-called "Balkanisms" similar to both Romanian and Albanian, further sharing charactarístics with Danish, Swedish, and Norwegian! Bulgarian also has more verb tenses than Polísh-:)
Lyzko
14 Aug 2021
Polonia / POLES vs BULGARIANS [160]
The Bulgarians I've met and seen on the whole are definitely darker and often not as tall as Poles:-)
About the only similarities in common are their Slavic heritage, but as Bulgarians are South and Poles
are Northern Slavs, there's little commonality between them!
The Bulgarians I've met and seen on the whole are definitely darker and often not as tall as Poles:-)
About the only similarities in common are their Slavic heritage, but as Bulgarians are South and Poles
are Northern Slavs, there's little commonality between them!
Lyzko
11 Aug 2021
Language / English translation of cuteczka? [8]
Those diminutives are what make Polish, Russian too, so charming:-)
Malgorzata, Malgosia, Gosia, Gocha, Gochu.... I LOVE IT!!!
Those diminutives are what make Polish, Russian too, so charming:-)
Malgorzata, Malgosia, Gosia, Gocha, Gochu.... I LOVE IT!!!
Lyzko
11 Aug 2021
Law / Work permit as a chef in restaurant business (Poland) - can it be rejected? [2]
Welcome! In addition to the obvious, legal documentation and so forth, make certain you secure the requisite Polish language skills for such a career move. Try not to rely on local's attempts at English, instead, allow yourself the independence of experiencing Poland on your own-:)
Welcome! In addition to the obvious, legal documentation and so forth, make certain you secure the requisite Polish language skills for such a career move. Try not to rely on local's attempts at English, instead, allow yourself the independence of experiencing Poland on your own-:)
Lyzko
10 Aug 2021
History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [593]
Katyn and Auschwitz oughtn't be mentioned in the same breath. Both ghastly for sure, yet clearly not for the same reasons!
Katyn and Auschwitz oughtn't be mentioned in the same breath. Both ghastly for sure, yet clearly not for the same reasons!