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Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]
Indeed, PiS's concern has always been first nad foremost the good of the nation.
Polonius, it would be helpful if you could at least stop telling lies. If they cared so much about Poland, they would have ignored the Constitutional Tribunal and got on with enacting laws and policies that would actually help. The example of the new director of Lasy Państowe shows that they have little to no interest in the welfare of the nation and every interest in putting their men into positions of power.
How is destroying the TK or turning it into a set of PiS lap dogs going to create jobs? (number one priority of younger voters)
Indeed. I haven't seen a single measure yet that actually involves this.
So you support the subversion of the rule of law. About what I expected.
Polonius has never been about the rule of law. Him and Ironside have made it pretty clear that they regard the law as something that stands between them and absolute power.
What are you talking about delph, I know what I'm talking about, you seemingly are just showing off for fun.
Doesn't seem as if you know what you're talking about.
TK lost all the respect and reason for its existence has passed together with the martial law.
It seems to me as if you're against the TK solely because PiS can't control it.
Somehow whatever PO, SLD and other post-communist parties of the system for the last 25 years done have been always legal according to TK even if people who make a living by practicing law were certain it wasn't so.
Ah, so because the TK has protected the country from the worst excesses of PiS, you're now claiming that it's corrupt? Surprise, surprise.
Coincidently only acts and bills going against interest of the system and post - communist establishment are allegedly illegal according to TK.
Because those acts and bills are unconstitutional. It's really not difficult Ironside - the TK isn't going to allow PiS (or anyone else) the right to abuse the country.
PiS wants to be able to rule and there is noting wrong with it!
The magic part of that sentence is "rule". I notice you used that word rather than "govern".
They need to be able to act if they are to deliver on promises and expectation and most of Poles don't give a damn about all that TK issues where PO and others twerps have gone hysterical when it sunken in that TK won't be controlled in toto by the PO cronies /nominees.
Why do they need to have a majority on the Constitutional Tribunal if they want to run the country? The TK isn't going to get involved in 99% of situations, after all. As Mafketis says, this is all about the fact that the TK will stop PiS from abusing democracy and democratic processes.
Quite the contrary my dear Watson, even if those five nominees of PiS will be appointed still PO nominees will have majority in TK.
As I explained above, the three judges are crucial to the future of the TK. If PiS wins this battle, then they have a majority at some point in a couple of years time. If the opposition wins, then the TK stays out of the hands of PiS until after the next election.
Nobody is bothered by what Constitution says
Perhaps you might not be, but people do care about it, hence why people are on the streets today and hence why there's going to be a huge crowd outside Jarosław's house on the 13th.
The so-called "Constitutional Court" damaged its reputation, and exposed its bias, by not addressing the matter in October when PO named more judges than was legal. This point was raised by Parliament Speaker Marek Kuchcinski.
PiS withdrew their complaint to the Constitutional Tribunal, so it's meaningless. The TK cannot act without a complaint.
, or that the short terms of its judges
Short terms? They're appointed for a single 9 year period. Are you sure you know what the Constitutional Tribunal is and how it works?
Allegedly PiS controlled media. You have no proof only allegation and gossip.
Care to argue otherwise?
